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Realistic shot at non-regional Biglaw?
I'll keep it brief: Top 20% at a T20, non-URM, no real w/e, but a reasonably good interviewer. Big law is still plausible, correct? If so, am I locked into my T20's region? (Sorry for the vagueness.)
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Re: Realistic shot at non-regional Biglaw?
Possible, sure, but exact likelihood is difficult to assess without knowing the specific school and region you're targeting.
Regardless: work connections, network like a motherfucker, mass mail, target the big Biglaw markets like NY, and apply outside of Biglaw to be safe.
Regardless: work connections, network like a motherfucker, mass mail, target the big Biglaw markets like NY, and apply outside of Biglaw to be safe.
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Yes, it's plausible. Best chances will be in your law school's region + NYC.Anonymous User wrote:I'll keep it brief: Top 20% at a T20, non-URM, no real w/e, but a reasonably good interviewer. Big law is still plausible, correct? If so, am I locked into my T20's region? (Sorry for the vagueness.)
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Thanks, guys. That's about what I figured. NYC isn't really a preference of mine, but I guess I'll bid heavy there regardless. Chicago or DC would be the dream, but I know those are tough to get.
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Re: Realistic shot at non-regional Biglaw?
Is your school near DC or Chicago? If not, I'd probably steer generally away from both. As Rpupkin said, your school's region + NYC -- that will be your best chance.Anonymous User wrote:Thanks, guys. That's about what I figured. NYC isn't really a preference of mine, but I guess I'll bid heavy there regardless. Chicago or DC would be the dream, but I know those are tough to get.
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Re: Realistic shot at non-regional Biglaw?
The hiring market is better than it was, you have a real shot, but as others have said you'll need to target NYC heavily. And you should be ready to convince them that NYC is your dream.
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Understood. I'll be sure to bid NYC + school's region aggressively. Is it worth it to mass mail to DC and Chicago? I'll take NYC if need be, but would still like to have options.androstan wrote:The hiring market is better than it was, you have a real shot, but as others have said you'll need to target NYC heavily. And you should be ready to convince them that NYC is your dream.
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Definitely worth it.Anonymous User wrote:Understood. I'll be sure to bid NYC + school's region aggressively. Is it worth it to mass mail to DC and Chicago? I'll take NYC if need be, but would still like to have options.androstan wrote:The hiring market is better than it was, you have a real shot, but as others have said you'll need to target NYC heavily. And you should be ready to convince them that NYC is your dream.
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Re: Realistic shot at non-regional Biglaw?
This is a bit of a strange question. It doesn't matter if it's DC or Boise, if you want to work in a given market, you need to be mass mailing it.Anonymous User wrote:Understood. I'll be sure to bid NYC + school's region aggressively. Is it worth it to mass mail to DC and Chicago? I'll take NYC if need be, but would still like to have options.androstan wrote:The hiring market is better than it was, you have a real shot, but as others have said you'll need to target NYC heavily. And you should be ready to convince them that NYC is your dream.
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Yes, it's worth it to mass mail in that the cost to you is low while the upside is high. It's not likely that you'll get big law in DC or Chicago through mass mailing, but why not try?Anonymous User wrote:Understood. I'll be sure to bid NYC + school's region aggressively. Is it worth it to mass mail to DC and Chicago? I'll take NYC if need be, but would still like to have options.androstan wrote:The hiring market is better than it was, you have a real shot, but as others have said you'll need to target NYC heavily. And you should be ready to convince them that NYC is your dream.
By the way, your refusal to identify your law school is weird. You're anon, and the specific law school you go to is actually relevant to your questions. You'll get better advice here if you just say which "T20" you attend.
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Point taken. WUSTL. Also, great avatar.rpupkin wrote:Yes, it's worth it to mass mail in that the cost to you is low while the upside is high. It's not likely that you'll get big law in DC or Chicago through mass mailing, but why not try?Anonymous User wrote:Understood. I'll be sure to bid NYC + school's region aggressively. Is it worth it to mass mail to DC and Chicago? I'll take NYC if need be, but would still like to have options.androstan wrote:The hiring market is better than it was, you have a real shot, but as others have said you'll need to target NYC heavily. And you should be ready to convince them that NYC is your dream.
By the way, your refusal to identify your law school is weird. You're anon, and the specific law school you go to is actually relevant to your questions. You'll get better advice here if you just say which "T20" you attend.
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Anonymous User wrote:Point taken. WUSTL. Also, great avatar.rpupkin wrote:Yes, it's worth it to mass mail in that the cost to you is low while the upside is high. It's not likely that you'll get big law in DC or Chicago through mass mailing, but why not try?Anonymous User wrote:Understood. I'll be sure to bid NYC + school's region aggressively. Is it worth it to mass mail to DC and Chicago? I'll take NYC if need be, but would still like to have options.androstan wrote:The hiring market is better than it was, you have a real shot, but as others have said you'll need to target NYC heavily. And you should be ready to convince them that NYC is your dream.
By the way, your refusal to identify your law school is weird. You're anon, and the specific law school you go to is actually relevant to your questions. You'll get better advice here if you just say which "T20" you attend.
You should get 10+ NY/chi interviews from interview programs.
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Re: Realistic shot at non-regional Biglaw?
If you are a decent interviewer should be able to get Chicago biglaw. Maybe with a few offers too.Anonymous User wrote:Point taken. WUSTL. Also, great avatar.rpupkin wrote:Yes, it's worth it to mass mail in that the cost to you is low while the upside is high. It's not likely that you'll get big law in DC or Chicago through mass mailing, but why not try?Anonymous User wrote:Understood. I'll be sure to bid NYC + school's region aggressively. Is it worth it to mass mail to DC and Chicago? I'll take NYC if need be, but would still like to have options.androstan wrote:The hiring market is better than it was, you have a real shot, but as others have said you'll need to target NYC heavily. And you should be ready to convince them that NYC is your dream.
By the way, your refusal to identify your law school is weird. You're anon, and the specific law school you go to is actually relevant to your questions. You'll get better advice here if you just say which "T20" you attend.
D.C. is meh, but worth the mass mailing campaign.
I'd bid heavily Chicago (and mass Mail Chicago too), and use remaining free bids for NYC/DC + Mass mail there.
You want NYC just as a backup option, but given school and stats you probably won't end up using it.
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Re: Realistic shot at non-regional Biglaw?
I went to WUSTLfavabeansoup wrote:If you are a decent interviewer should be able to get Chicago biglaw. Maybe with a few offers too.Anonymous User wrote:Point taken. WUSTL. Also, great avatar.rpupkin wrote:Yes, it's worth it to mass mail in that the cost to you is low while the upside is high. It's not likely that you'll get big law in DC or Chicago through mass mailing, but why not try?Anonymous User wrote:Understood. I'll be sure to bid NYC + school's region aggressively. Is it worth it to mass mail to DC and Chicago? I'll take NYC if need be, but would still like to have options.androstan wrote:The hiring market is better than it was, you have a real shot, but as others have said you'll need to target NYC heavily. And you should be ready to convince them that NYC is your dream.
By the way, your refusal to identify your law school is weird. You're anon, and the specific law school you go to is actually relevant to your questions. You'll get better advice here if you just say which "T20" you attend.
D.C. is meh, but worth the mass mailing campaign.
I'd bid heavily Chicago (and mass Mail Chicago too), and use remaining free bids for NYC/DC + Mass mail there.
You want NYC just as a backup option, but given school and stats you probably won't end up using it.
OP has unlimited bids since at WUSTL. You can also bid Bryan Cave/TC/Polsinielli/LockeLorde and say you want to summer in their Chicago office.
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Re: Realistic shot at non-regional Biglaw?
I went to WUSTL and I think the opinion here may be slightly too optimistic regarding geography. WUSTL doesn't place as well in Chicago as one would expect given the proximity, the only students I know working Chicago biglaw were somewhere around the top 10-15%.favabeansoup wrote:If you are a decent interviewer should be able to get Chicago biglaw. Maybe with a few offers too.Anonymous User wrote:Point taken. WUSTL. Also, great avatar.rpupkin wrote:Yes, it's worth it to mass mail in that the cost to you is low while the upside is high. It's not likely that you'll get big law in DC or Chicago through mass mailing, but why not try?Anonymous User wrote:Understood. I'll be sure to bid NYC + school's region aggressively. Is it worth it to mass mail to DC and Chicago? I'll take NYC if need be, but would still like to have options.androstan wrote:The hiring market is better than it was, you have a real shot, but as others have said you'll need to target NYC heavily. And you should be ready to convince them that NYC is your dream.
By the way, your refusal to identify your law school is weird. You're anon, and the specific law school you go to is actually relevant to your questions. You'll get better advice here if you just say which "T20" you attend.
D.C. is meh, but worth the mass mailing campaign.
I'd bid heavily Chicago (and mass Mail Chicago too), and use remaining free bids for NYC/DC + Mass mail there.
You want NYC just as a backup option, but given school and stats you probably won't end up using it.
You have unlimited bids and I'd highly suggest bidding strongly in Chicago and gunning for it (both at OCI and MM), but you'll also have to do the NY interview programs (and should probably do DC as well if it's a city you want, just know DC is highly competitive). Don't leave NYC as a backup or assume that you'll get Chicago, most WUSTL students end up in NYC and that's your most likely outcome. It's better to be there than to strike out
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