Re: Columbia EIP 2017
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:53 pm
What was the strike out rate for 2016? I saw participation rate was 91%, what % received an offer out of EIP?
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Latham and Weil have in the past two years also.Bach-City wrote:So far I've seen that Sidley and PW made those calls. What other firms did that?stoopkid13 wrote:Sidley's more realistic than Weil or Ropes. If you have a good reason for keeping the firm, I'd consider it a reach and leave it. I'd also cut Jones Day though.Anonymous User wrote:jbagelboy wrote:I would start but cutting Weil and Ropes. That would give your FFB some breathing room, and those firms are unlikely to offer a CB to someone with your grades regardless (no offense).rustyburger2 wrote:Bro, this bid list is terrifying to look at. Like, this bid list could totally screw you. It's WAY too tight. Why is Ropes and Gray bid at 7 when the FFB last year is 6? Unless the firm now has more interview slots than it did last year, a firm will never go down on the FFB list.Anonymous User wrote:Hoping to get some help cutting down this bid list.
3.0x GPA, so I am obviously worried about striking out. I'm Asian American (not sure if URM for biglaw purposes?) and have some irrelevant WE. Everything is NYC.
You need at least 3 spaces between the FFB and your bid. If I were you, I'd aim for 4 or 5 spaces. Your number one priority should be getting as many interviews as possible. You should go through the data and see what firms have the highest screener to callback ratios, and callback to offer ratios. Use that as a way to narrow down your list.
Rustyburger and jbagel, thanks for the feedback! I agree it's definitely too tight and I needed help picking the right firms to remove. I'll start with Weil and Ropes. Should I cut Sidley as well? They gave 63% of their offers last year to non-stone or transfer students, but they are also ranked so high on Vault that I imagine most of those offers were to median and above grades (as mentioned, I'm 3.0x). That would also move up my entire list.
FWIW, Sidley was one of the firms that asked Petal to call all offer recipients because their yield was way lower than what they expected. Personally, I wouldn't read too much into it, but some posters seem to think those firms will make more offers this year around.
Looks like you have the wrong FFB for Cravath .Anonymous User wrote:Need some advice on a bid list
Transferring into CLS from T40 w/ ~3.7 GPA, no news on LR/journal yet, non-URM, 4 years work experience. Looking at NY, TX (have ties) & LA (no ties) mostly for corporate but also included some lit options.
Any help would be massively appreciated!
1 White & Case – NY (5)
2 Morrison & Foerster – NY (5)
3 Milbank Tweed – NY (6)
4 Paul Weiss – NY (9)
5 Skadden – NY (10)
6 Davis Polk – NY (11)
7 Latham & Watkins – NY (13)
8 Sullivan & Cromwell - NY (10)
9 Akin Gump – NY (11)
10 Cravath – NY (14)
11 Covington - NY (16)
12 Simpson Thacher – NY (22)
13 King & Spalding – NY (15)
14 Arnold & Porter – NY (26)
15 Gibson Dunn – Dallas (30)
16 Vinson & Elkins – Houston (no failed bid for the rest)
17 Baker Botts - Houston
18 Baker & McKenzie - Houston
19 Jones Day - Houston
20 Kirkland & Ellis - NY
21 Akin Gump - LA
22 Foley & Lardner - LA
23 Kirkland & Ellis - LA
24 Baker & Hostetler - Houston
25 Hunton & Williams - Houston
26 King & Spalding - Houston
27 Willkie Farr - Houston
28 Haynes & Boone - Houston
29 Norton Rose Fulbright - Houston
30 DLA Piper - LA
Thanks!
I'd consider dropping some of the 16-30 from the bid list and using some of those bids to shoot for additional firms with FFB requirements. If the dropped firms have open interview slots you can manually add them after the interviews are announced. I also think the no FFB for Kirkland was a freak occurrence and should not be relied on (I'd at a minimum put it 16).Anonymous User wrote:Need some advice on a bid list
Transferring into CLS from T40 w/ ~3.7 GPA, no news on LR/journal yet, non-URM, 4 years work experience. Looking at NY, TX (have ties) & LA (no ties) mostly for corporate but also included some lit options.
Any help would be massively appreciated!
1 White & Case – NY (5)
2 Morrison & Foerster – NY (5)
3 Milbank Tweed – NY (6)
4 Paul Weiss – NY (9)
5 Skadden – NY (10)
6 Davis Polk – NY (11)
7 Latham & Watkins – NY (13)
8 Sullivan & Cromwell - NY (10)
9 Akin Gump – NY (11)
10 Cravath – NY (14)
11 Covington - NY (16)
12 Simpson Thacher – NY (22)
13 King & Spalding – NY (15)
14 Arnold & Porter – NY (26)
15 Gibson Dunn – Dallas (30)
16 Vinson & Elkins – Houston (no failed bid for the rest)
17 Baker Botts - Houston
18 Baker & McKenzie - Houston
19 Jones Day - Houston
20 Kirkland & Ellis - NY
21 Akin Gump - LA
22 Foley & Lardner - LA
23 Kirkland & Ellis - LA
24 Baker & Hostetler - Houston
25 Hunton & Williams - Houston
26 King & Spalding - Houston
27 Willkie Farr - Houston
28 Haynes & Boone - Houston
29 Norton Rose Fulbright - Houston
30 DLA Piper - LA
Thanks!
you should be planning your callbacks as soon as possible. This will obviously depend on how many callbacks you get, but you should try to make sure you have them as quickly as you can fit them in.frasier wrote:Can someone comment on how flexible call back interview scheduling is? Can I be out of town the Thursday / Friday of call back week with no disfavorable impact on eventual outcomes?
Obviously it depends. Some people finish the week after EIP, some people will need the whole month of August, some people will be doing recruiting into the Fall semester. That said, I think 3-4 weeks is a safe bet.Anonymous User wrote:When will it all end? I really want to get out of the city at the end of August, is that possible?
stoopkid13 wrote:Obviously it depends. Some people finish the week after EIP, some people will need the whole month of August, some people will be doing recruiting into the Fall semester. That said, I think 3-4 weeks is a safe bet.Anonymous User wrote:When will it all end? I really want to get out of the city at the end of August, is that possible?
Anonymous User wrote:stoopkid13 wrote:Obviously it depends. Some people finish the week after EIP, some people will need the whole month of August, some people will be doing recruiting into the Fall semester. That said, I think 3-4 weeks is a safe bet.Anonymous User wrote:When will it all end? I really want to get out of the city at the end of August, is that possible?
When do interviews end each day? I am sure this also varies based on your assignments, but is the whole event an 8-5 thing, or does it go past 5? The EIP website just says "all day."
Sometimes there are firm receptions in the evening. I think Shearman had one last year for everyone who did a screener.TheoO wrote:Anonymous User wrote:stoopkid13 wrote:Obviously it depends. Some people finish the week after EIP, some people will need the whole month of August, some people will be doing recruiting into the Fall semester. That said, I think 3-4 weeks is a safe bet.Anonymous User wrote:When will it all end? I really want to get out of the city at the end of August, is that possible?
When do interviews end each day? I am sure this also varies based on your assignments, but is the whole event an 8-5 thing, or does it go past 5? The EIP website just says "all day."
If I remember correctly, the last interviews will generally wrap up around 5pm. Interviews generally begin after 10am, generally.
You'll get am hour break in the student floor area to sit in crowded tables (I tended to just put headphones on and wait in the quiet area, or find some place without law students).
You can do exactly that. My gut says to wait a bit later into add/drop because there are going to be fewer people looking to add firms.Anonymous User wrote: Is there any way to time my dropped bids during the add/drop period? Like tell my friend who fucked up his bidding I'm dropping my bids at 2:30am, and have him pick up the bids at 2:35am or something?