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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:49 am

Honigman no offered a few summers this year. Many partners have left in recent years. One of the big Detroit papers wrote an article on it.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:55 am

I am talking 2017. This summer Honigman no offered serveral summers

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:36 pm

So back to OP's question, anyone know what happened this year?

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:10 pm

Don't go to Michigan, but I'm friends with a summer there. Friend told me the firm is having a lot of money problems and hired too many SAs this year.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Anonymous User wrote:Don't go to Michigan, but I'm friends with a summer there. Friend told me the firm is having a lot of money problems and hired too many SAs this year.

Aggressively raising salary was probably a dumb move. Why did they do that? JD and Foley were the only ones higher afaik, and they aren't hiring that many. Just seems misguided in such a low COL market. Now they'll struggle a bit and cheap out elsewhere as a result, in all likelihood.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Anonymous User wrote:Husch Blackwell CB.
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Did you get Husch Blackwell today? It's almost 3 weeks!


Got them a couple of days ago.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Snail mail ding only? No email ding?


Previous anon here. I received the ding a couple of days ago and it was addressed from my interviewer.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have any insight into the Honigman no offers from this summer?


They no-offer a bunch of SAs every year. You should read up on it if you are considering them. They are probably one of the worst firms for no-offering summers in the country.


Definetly not true. I don't know specifics about the reasons for the no offers this year but I've heard there were reasons for each no offer-- no one was blindsided.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have any insight into the Honigman no offers from this summer?


They no-offer a bunch of SAs every year. You should read up on it if you are considering them. They are probably one of the worst firms for no-offering summers in the country.


Definetly not true. I don't know specifics about the reasons for the no offers this year but I've heard there were reasons for each no offer-- no one was blindsided.


Seems unlikely that no one was blindsided or that there were reasons, beyond the firm's financials, for no offers. It's more plausible that they hired too many SAs and raised salaries too high for Detroit, and the firm couldn't sustain such expedited growth.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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*accidental double post
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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Anonymous User wrote:*accidental double post

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have any insight into the Honigman no offers from this summer?


They no-offer a bunch of SAs every year. You should read up on it if you are considering them. They are probably one of the worst firms for no-offering summers in the country.


Definetly not true. I don't know specifics about the reasons for the no offers this year but I've heard there were reasons for each no offer-- no one was blindsided.


Seems unlikely that no one was blindsided or that there were reasons, beyond the firm's financials, for no offers. It's more plausible that they hired too many SAs and raised salaries too high for Detroit, and the firm couldn't sustain such expedited growth.

Raising salary aggressively above the market while no-offering multiple summers in the same year seems unlikely to be a coincidence... anyone have any actual insight, though?

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have any insight into the Honigman no offers from this summer?


They no-offer a bunch of SAs every year. You should read up on it if you are considering them. They are probably one of the worst firms for no-offering summers in the country.


Definetly not true. I don't know specifics about the reasons for the no offers this year but I've heard there were reasons for each no offer-- no one was blindsided.


Seems unlikely that no one was blindsided or that there were reasons, beyond the firm's financials, for no offers. It's more plausible that they hired too many SAs and raised salaries too high for Detroit, and the firm couldn't sustain such expedited growth.

Raising salary aggressively above the market while no-offering multiple summers in the same year seems unlikely to be a coincidence... anyone have any actual insight, though?


I have some inside insight. I got the impression that the no offers were due to work product issues and poor reviews not financial issues/hiring too many SA issues.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:55 pm

Has anyone received a ding from DLA piper Chi? Haven't heard anything so just curious if they actually send them.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:11 am

Anyone else still waiting to hear from Ropes after their sceeener? lol

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone else still waiting to hear from Ropes after their sceeener? lol

Yep.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:44 pm

Foley email ding.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:46 pm

Anyone with a Mayer Brown NY CB hear back yet?

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:10 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have any insight into the Honigman no offers from this summer?


They no-offer a bunch of SAs every year. You should read up on it if you are considering them. They are probably one of the worst firms for no-offering summers in the country.


This is simply not true. 2015 every SA got an offer.


Every Summer in 2016 was offered as well, and Honigman also hired an extra associate through 3L OCI.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:18 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have any insight into the Honigman no offers from this summer?


They no-offer a bunch of SAs every year. You should read up on it if you are considering them. They are probably one of the worst firms for no-offering summers in the country.


Definetly not true. I don't know specifics about the reasons for the no offers this year but I've heard there were reasons for each no offer-- no one was blindsided.


Sorry, I'm calling BS. I had a CB with Honigman last year and Honigman is extremely grade selective and picks the best crop with Michigan ties. It has to be financial - they offer outstanding candidates to be completely frank.

*** I will add that I do not know that Honigman even no offered multiple people. If they no offered like one, I could see a bad fit.

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have any insight into the Honigman no offers from this summer?


They no-offer a bunch of SAs every year. You should read up on it if you are considering them. They are probably one of the worst firms for no-offering summers in the country.


Definetly not true. I don't know specifics about the reasons for the no offers this year but I've heard there were reasons for each no offer-- no one was blindsided.


Sorry, I'm calling BS. I had a CB with Honigman last year and Honigman is extremely grade selective and picks the best crop with Michigan ties. It has to be financial - they offer outstanding candidates to be completely frank.

*** I will add that I do not know that Honigman even no offered multiple people. If they no offered like one, I could see a bad fit.



How many were no offered?

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:30 pm

Anyone receive Mayer Brown Pre-CB dings?

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Re: Michigan OCI 2017

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Anonymous User wrote:Anyone receive Mayer Brown Pre-CB dings?

Yes I got a Chi ding.



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