runinthefront wrote: elendinel wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:It's just worth 300k to make a baby lawyer, full stop. go to Cuny or something you entitled bernie bros
Okay but then how does the government incentivize someone who went to Harvard or Columbia to give up biglaw to work for them?
You're assuming PSLF is about allowing entitled rich kids to do whatever they please and are completely forgetting that PSLF is equally/actually about the government trying to find ways to not have to rely on CUNY students alone (who, as with the vast majority law schools in the country, are a mixed bag in terms of quality) to fill their ranks, and about the government trying to find ways to convince Harvard grads that they wouldn't be complete idiots if they worked for the government for 10 years rather than spending those 10 years in much better paying positions. As with literally everything there will be a handful of people who don't absolutely need the service who end up using it all the same, but you're basically asking the government to chop off its nose to spite its face by insinuating there is no rhyme or reason to incentivize people to go into PI.
I'm not so sure government jobs "need" to give people incentives. Like DF said, the DOJ programs already pay well. There are only a finite number of biglaw jobs, too, so if PSLF went away, presumably schools would have to lower their costs to keep their class sizes the same, reducing the debt burden for those wanting to go into government. Maybe poor students from t14s won't want to work as a DA in Miami when K&E is their other option, but many other perfectly capable law graduates from other schools will jump at that opportunity
Bigfed is not the only kind of government job that qualifies for PSLF (see: ADAs, PDs, etc.). Legal jobs in general aren't the only ones that qualify for PSLF. PSLF also covers those who choose to forego prestigious corporate biomedical research positions to work for the government, those who choose to forego working for Google to write software for the government, those who forego six figure salaries to work in non-profits, etc.
Saying incentives aren't necessary because DoJ pays well makes no sense because DoJ is only a small fraction of the positions affected by incentives like PSLF.
As for "there will always be graduates," PSLF was specifically created because this was not the case.
Desert Fox wrote:And, if Miami PD really can't fill their spots they could pay more.
Right, because they have millions in profits to pay people whatever they want if they find their salaries aren't sufficient.