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Where are you working this summer?

NYC
69
27%
DC
19
7%
LA
16
6%
Chicago
21
8%
Boston
12
5%
Texas
31
12%
San Fransisco
20
8%
Atlanta
7
3%
Philly
13
5%
Other
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18%
 
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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Minnietron » Mon May 22, 2017 8:41 pm

Mickfromgm wrote:
Minnietron wrote:
Mickfromgm wrote:While I appreciate good fashion, I must point out that since over 95% of SA's get an offer, it could be deduced that fashion sense doesn't matter at all. Also, look at senior associates and partners as a group - a pretty sad looking bunch. :)

What if 95% of SAs follow TLS fashion advice? Or even 90 and the rest are HCCN?


You haven't seen SA's in the wild, have you? :)

I take back my conjectures. I had my first wild-SA viewing today. If representative of SAs as a whole, maybe 10% followed standard fashion advice. It was amazing.
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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby stannis » Mon May 22, 2017 10:10 pm

Minnietron wrote:
Mickfromgm wrote:
Minnietron wrote:
Mickfromgm wrote:While I appreciate good fashion, I must point out that since over 95% of SA's get an offer, it could be deduced that fashion sense doesn't matter at all. Also, look at senior associates and partners as a group - a pretty sad looking bunch. :)

What if 95% of SAs follow TLS fashion advice? Or even 90 and the rest are HCCN?


You haven't seen SA's in the wild, have you? :)

I take back my conjectures. I had my first wild-SA viewing today. If representative of SAs as a whole, maybe 10% followed standard fashion advice. It was amazing.


Please describe most egregious offenses.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Mon May 22, 2017 10:12 pm

How do I handle the fact that I may be interviewing for post-grad clerkships? Is it something I should feel I have to keep on the down-low? A partner was telling me how much he recommends clerking and I felt weird saying that its something I am actively looking into, bc as an SA the thought is I am also actively trying to get post-grad employment at my current firm.

I also feel odd talking to recruiting about it because the chances of me getting one are very slim to begin with.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Mon May 22, 2017 10:39 pm

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Joscellin

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Joscellin » Mon May 22, 2017 11:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How do I handle the fact that I may be interviewing for post-grad clerkships? Is it something I should feel I have to keep on the down-low? A partner was telling me how much he recommends clerking and I felt weird saying that its something I am actively looking into, bc as an SA the thought is I am also actively trying to get post-grad employment at my current firm.

I also feel odd talking to recruiting about it because the chances of me getting one are very slim to begin with.


At my firm at least, clerking is highly encouraged. In fact, there's a ton of folks who clerk after doing a year or two at the firm, and I've heard nothing but positive feedback for them doing so.

I can't imagine it would be something you would need to hide.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Joscellin » Mon May 22, 2017 11:41 pm

stannis wrote:
Minnietron wrote:
Mickfromgm wrote:
Minnietron wrote:
Mickfromgm wrote:While I appreciate good fashion, I must point out that since over 95% of SA's get an offer, it could be deduced that fashion sense doesn't matter at all. Also, look at senior associates and partners as a group - a pretty sad looking bunch. :)

What if 95% of SAs follow TLS fashion advice? Or even 90 and the rest are HCCN?


You haven't seen SA's in the wild, have you? :)

I take back my conjectures. I had my first wild-SA viewing today. If representative of SAs as a whole, maybe 10% followed standard fashion advice. It was amazing.


Please describe most egregious offenses.


This was not over this summer - but at OCI. Far and away the biggest wtf I've seen was a guy wearing a pretty standard suit - with patent leather shoes, shined up like he was going to prom or something.

Definitely did a double take.

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Postby Gray » Tue May 23, 2017 12:07 am

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby buckiguy_sucks » Tue May 23, 2017 4:51 pm

Do i need to reply to every email I get from a lawyer if just to say ok got the email or can I just not respond if no immediate response is needed

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby TLSModBot » Tue May 23, 2017 4:57 pm

buckiguy_sucks wrote:Do i need to reply to every email I get from a lawyer if just to say ok got the email or can I just not respond if no immediate response is needed

Use your judgement. Depends on the email and the lawyer. Responding with a "Will do" never hurts so I'd err on emailing but opinions may differ.

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Postby Gray » Tue May 23, 2017 5:03 pm

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Postby Gray » Tue May 23, 2017 5:04 pm

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby TLSModBot » Tue May 23, 2017 5:08 pm

I personally don't care but goddamn everyone does it anyway so no one will hold it against you.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby sublime » Tue May 23, 2017 5:21 pm

Will do. Thanks.

^like half of my sent emails are just that.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Vincent Adultman » Tue May 23, 2017 5:30 pm

Send the "Will do." People appreciate it.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby SeewhathappensLarry » Tue May 23, 2017 5:41 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:
Martin Brody wrote:No news is fine. Lawyers are unbelievably bad at giving feedback. That goes double for summers. When you complete a few weeks/projects, just go ask someone.


Yeah, this. Don't expect anyone to go out of their way to give you feedback. You often have to go seek it out. I'd also suggest not just popping in an office asking for feedback on the spot. Shoot the person an email asking for a few minutes (like 15) to briefly discuss. This will give them a chance to actually read your work product.


yeah I only had one person when I was a summer offer feedback after an assignment. Radio silence from the rest unless I asked--providing feedback to SAs is not on the radar of most lawyers

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Joscellin » Tue May 23, 2017 9:01 pm

sublime wrote:Will do. Thanks.

^like half of my sent emails are just that.


Glad to hear that, will have to adjust. I had been avoiding it due to not wanting to contribute to inbox flood with basically nothing.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby sublime » Tue May 23, 2017 9:09 pm

Joscellin wrote:
sublime wrote:Will do. Thanks.

^like half of my sent emails are just that.


Glad to hear that, will have to adjust. I had been avoiding it due to not wanting to contribute to inbox flood with basically nothing.


Yea, I was worried about that too, but enough people send will dos and enough people expect it that imo it's definitely the default. Of course, if somebody asks for something different, do that.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 23, 2017 9:24 pm

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Tue May 23, 2017 9:31 pm

Day 2 already losing firm equipment here's to hoping key fobs aren't expensive

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Johann » Tue May 23, 2017 10:24 pm

Joscellin wrote:I had been avoiding it due to not wanting to contribute to inbox flood with basically nothing.

not a good mindset to have in this industry. peoples inboxes are already flooded. rainmakers get 1k+ emails every day.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby UVA2B » Tue May 23, 2017 11:52 pm

Anyone else had moments of panic where they think back to conversations they've had and worried they came off horribly?

I'm either doing this horribly wrong or exactly right. The worst part is having no idea which one it is.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby foregetaboutdre » Wed May 24, 2017 12:13 am

I've been lucky so far with regards to feedback. Associates who assign me work often give me track changes etc... to show what they changed. Got an assignment from a rainmaker and talked about it afterwards unsolicited.

I figure if people basically stop giving me work that would be a bad sign.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby quiver » Wed May 24, 2017 9:47 am

sublime wrote:
Joscellin wrote:
sublime wrote:Will do. Thanks.

^like half of my sent emails are just that.


Glad to hear that, will have to adjust. I had been avoiding it due to not wanting to contribute to inbox flood with basically nothing.


Yea, I was worried about that too, but enough people send will dos and enough people expect it that imo it's definitely the default. Of course, if somebody asks for something different, do that.
Agree. I think it's always better to send "will do" than radio silence (unless it's a tiny question that you can simply respond to). People like confirmation that you have received the assignment/question and you will be looking into it. In fact, I think the flooding inbox cuts the other way: people get concerned that their assignment/question is lost in the shuffle if you don't reply at all.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed May 24, 2017 11:33 am

Does anyone else just hate it? I feel guilty admitting it because of the paycheck, but biglaw is definitely not for me.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby SmokeytheBear » Wed May 24, 2017 12:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone else just hate it? I feel guilty admitting it because of the paycheck, but biglaw is definitely not for me.


You've either been at it for two days or seven days, so hold your horses.



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