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Where are you working this summer?

NYC
69
27%
DC
20
8%
LA
16
6%
Chicago
22
9%
Boston
12
5%
Texas
31
12%
San Fransisco
20
8%
Atlanta
7
3%
Philly
13
5%
Other
47
18%
 
Total votes: 257

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby LaLiLuLeLo » Tue May 02, 2017 11:58 am

B90 wrote:
MCFC wrote:
B90 wrote:
Basically, when you are a lawyer - especially when you are appearing in court - you want to look the part. You do so by wearing a lawyer custume. Any client, lawyer, or lay person who sees you should immediately be able to guess you are a lawyer.

Usually I just rely on the look of sadness and despair.

That works too. However, if you are also sporting an oversized, polka dotted bowtie and/or a red rubber nose, you are sending mixed messages.
Remember, juries are easily confused.


Maybe litbros are too cool for this, but around these parts we have a Pagliacci outfit for first years who fuck up sig blocks.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby trramic » Tue May 02, 2017 4:30 pm

How many allowances should I be looking at if my spouse works? Should I play it safe and just do 1?

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby SmokeytheBear » Tue May 02, 2017 4:33 pm

trramic wrote:How many allowances should I be looking at if my spouse works? Should I play it safe and just do 1?


If you want to make an interest free loan to the government, just do 1. You'll get it back at tax time.

Otherwise just google "IRS withholding calculator." Make sure to do the one on the IRS website. It will ask you a series of questions and then spit you out a number.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby PeanutsNJam » Tue May 02, 2017 4:52 pm

Didn't withhold last summer. Mistake. Definitely withhold.

We can withhold state income taxes too, right? I still haven't gotten my state income tax refund.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed May 03, 2017 1:05 am

Over/under of pages devoted to whether to wear a suit on the first day?

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed May 03, 2017 1:07 am

Anonymous User wrote:Over/under of pages devoted to whether to wear a suit on the first day?


Laugh all you want, but I'll be wearing a suit every day.

It's important as the junior person in an office to convey that you take the position seriously, and that starts with dress.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby star fox » Wed May 03, 2017 1:23 am

Suit on first day is fine, so is non-suit if it's stated as business casual but you shouldn't keep wearing a suit if nobody else is, that just makes you look odd.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby candidlatke » Wed May 03, 2017 1:43 am

in general (at a non-working aka cravath/wlrk SA), how many nights should we expect free?
checking the events calendar, there doesn't seem to be nearly as much as people have made it seem to be, but i've also been told that a lot of the happy hours/lunches are impromptu and that lunches will be happening nigh everyday so i'm not sure how many nights i should expect free

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby mt2165 » Wed May 03, 2017 2:44 am

candidlatke wrote:in general (at a non-working aka cravath/wlrk SA), how many nights should we expect free?
checking the events calendar, there doesn't seem to be nearly as much as people have made it seem to be, but i've also been told that a lot of the happy hours/lunches are impromptu and that lunches will be happening nigh everyday so i'm not sure how many nights i should expect free


Summer last year in NYC. I would say you'll have at least a couple of events every week and possibly another/couple of impromptu happy hour/drinking event(s) with associates or other summers. At least half, and probably more of my nights were free.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed May 03, 2017 3:47 pm

Starting my summer clerkship at Hawkins Parnell in Austin, TX!

2L from a private school in TX with grades around median.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby snowball2 » Wed May 03, 2017 3:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Over/under of pages devoted to whether to wear a suit on the first day?


Laugh all you want, but I'll be wearing a suit every day.

It's important as the junior person in an office to convey that you take the position seriously, and that starts with dress.


Also pretty important to convey basic comprehension of office policy and practice. If office policy is business casual then it is not a secret test where they're challenging you to figure out that they really want you in a suit. They want you to respond like a normal human being.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby RaceJudicata » Wed May 03, 2017 4:29 pm

snowball2 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Over/under of pages devoted to whether to wear a suit on the first day?


Laugh all you want, but I'll be wearing a suit every day.

It's important as the junior person in an office to convey that you take the position seriously, and that starts with dress.


Also pretty important to convey basic comprehension of office policy and practice. If office policy is business casual then it is not a secret test where they're challenging you to figure out that they really want you in a suit. They want you to respond like a normal human being.


If you wear a suit every day in a business casual office, you sir, are a fool. And yes, people will talk about you and discuss how weird your behavior is. And they will be right. Shit, in my SA office, the attorneys (associates and partners) ragged on a partner who wore a suit every day.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby tyrant_flycatcher » Wed May 03, 2017 6:01 pm

mt2165 wrote:
candidlatke wrote:in general (at a non-working aka cravath/wlrk SA), how many nights should we expect free?
checking the events calendar, there doesn't seem to be nearly as much as people have made it seem to be, but i've also been told that a lot of the happy hours/lunches are impromptu and that lunches will be happening nigh everyday so i'm not sure how many nights i should expect free


Summer last year in NYC. I would say you'll have at least a couple of events every week and possibly another/couple of impromptu happy hour/drinking event(s) with associates or other summers. At least half, and probably more of my nights were free.


Posting to add that I had every Friday night free, and I believe that's common among firms.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed May 03, 2017 6:23 pm

looks like I'm doing lit for first half of summer. Excited to get started but also nervous for long memos.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby clshopeful » Wed May 03, 2017 6:36 pm

how many suit-required events (court hearings/client meetings) did former SAs have? Is it like 3 times roughly for 10 weeks, or more like 10?

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby SmokeytheBear » Wed May 03, 2017 6:45 pm

clshopeful wrote:how many suit-required events (court hearings/client meetings) did former SAs have? Is it like 3 times roughly for 10 weeks, or more like 10?


3 if you're lucky.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed May 03, 2017 7:05 pm

If everyone I interviewed with at a CB had a standing desk, will they no-offer me for not requesting one as well? Should I be training for standing for long periods now in order to prepare myself for the summer?

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby clshopeful » Wed May 03, 2017 7:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If everyone I interviewed with at a CB had a standing desk, will they no-offer me for not requesting one as well? Should I be training for standing for long periods now in order to prepare myself for the summer?


standing desks typically are electric and go from seated-height to standing-height so you dont have to stand all day lol

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby PeanutsNJam » Wed May 03, 2017 7:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If everyone I interviewed with at a CB had a standing desk, will they no-offer me for not requesting one as well? Should I be training for standing for long periods now in order to prepare myself for the summer?


Request a treadmill desk so they know you mean business

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby buckiguy_sucks » Wed May 03, 2017 7:49 pm

damn i hope they offer me a standing desk that'd be awesome

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby LoganCouture » Wed May 03, 2017 7:50 pm

clshopeful wrote:how many suit-required events (court hearings/client meetings) did former SAs have? Is it like 3 times roughly for 10 weeks, or more like 10?

0 last summer. not lit tho. keeping one in your office is probably the right call if you think there will be opportunities to go to suit-required events.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Anonymous User » Wed May 03, 2017 9:02 pm

clshopeful wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:If everyone I interviewed with at a CB had a standing desk, will they no-offer me for not requesting one as well? Should I be training for standing for long periods now in order to prepare myself for the summer?


standing desks typically are electric and go from seated-height to standing-height so you dont have to stand all day lol


That's crazy! Do you have to stop by a Tesla charging station on your way to work and charge the desk? Will I need to bring a generator? Does Allen Edmonds make generators?

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Roy McAvoy » Thu May 04, 2017 8:23 am

Anonymous User wrote:
clshopeful wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:If everyone I interviewed with at a CB had a standing desk, will they no-offer me for not requesting one as well? Should I be training for standing for long periods now in order to prepare myself for the summer?


standing desks typically are electric and go from seated-height to standing-height so you dont have to stand all day lol


That's crazy! Do you have to stop by a Tesla charging station on your way to work and charge the desk? Will I need to bring a generator? Does Allen Edmonds make generators?


I almost spit up my breakfast laughing at this.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby RaceJudicata » Thu May 04, 2017 9:12 am

LoganCouture wrote:
clshopeful wrote:how many suit-required events (court hearings/client meetings) did former SAs have? Is it like 3 times roughly for 10 weeks, or more like 10?

0 last summer. not lit tho. keeping one in your office is probably the right call if you think there will be opportunities to go to suit-required events.


In lit...I had about three that we pre-planned (i.e. partner emailed me a few days before asking if I'd like to join). Also had one last minute court appearance that they asked me to join on - it was during first week or two and didn't have suit in office ready to go. Bad look, but thankfully it was just an associate who was cool about it... so definitely have one ready to go.

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Re: Summer Associate Class of 2017

Postby Moneytrees » Thu May 04, 2017 3:19 pm

For guys, why not just wear a suit without a tie to the office? If your office has a casual atmosphere you can always just take your jacket off once you get to work. You can stash a few ties at the office in case you need them and not have to worry about ever being under-dressed.

I don't really see why that wouldn't be the play. Are people just dying to wear khakis or what?



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