2017 PLIP

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:30 am

Hi Everyone, I'm in a bit of a conundrum and would like some advice. In an effort to get face time with my top choice firm, I bid on all the offices they had available which also fit my area of expertise. Importantly-- this is not a firm that varies in GPA requirement dramatically from office of office... it appears they all have the same requirement but perhaps differ in popularity.

Out of those 5 or so bids, there were two I was *really* hoping for. Well, I did get preselected for the firm... but for my last choice office, and nothing else. In my interview, do I mention I would really like to work at another office? Do I mail the office I want individually? Do I bid on my preferred office at my law school's OCI?

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:11 pm

Anyone have any movement with alternates? I'm wondering if they haven't updated it yet or if I just didn't have any of my alts convert :(

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby Carlton_Banks » Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:26 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have any movement with alternates? I'm wondering if they haven't updated it yet or if I just didn't have any of my alts convert :(


Had one convert last night. Nothing since then.

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:46 am

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have any movement with alternates? I'm wondering if they haven't updated it yet or if I just didn't have any of my alts convert :(


Also had one convert to an interview.

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby PotatoSalad » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:55 am

Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have any movement with alternates? I'm wondering if they haven't updated it yet or if I just didn't have any of my alts convert :(


I also got pulled off an alternates list for an interview (surprised someone cancelled on this firm, but pleased).

Note it does not update on the "Employers/Bidding" section at all, only the "Scheduled Interviews" section. Additionally, the ranking doesn't appear to alter based on any cancellations: I'm still listed as "Alternate(X)" on the "Employers/Bidding" section.

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:18 pm

Did everyone who got a preselect from Sidley get asked to fill out a diversity form??! ~*Reading the tea leaves**~*

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:18 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Did everyone who got a preselect from Sidley get asked to fill out a diversity form??! ~*Reading the tea leaves**~*

I did not get preselected or an alternate spot for Sidley (but bid them) and still got this so I wouldn't read too much into it.

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby PotatoSalad » Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Did everyone who got a preselect from Sidley get asked to fill out a diversity form??! ~*Reading the tea leaves**~*


I was preselected by Sidley New York and did not receive a request for a diversity form. Not sure what that tells you.

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:09 pm

Who got an invite to go bowling with Finnegan?

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:16 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Who got an invite to go bowling with Finnegan?

Yup, I wonder if other firms do this and I should wait to see if other invites come through.

That said I heard Finnegan's bowling night is fun, and was recommended it by a past PLIP attendee.

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby UVA2B » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:44 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Who got an invite to go bowling with Finnegan?

Yup, I wonder if other firms do this and I should wait to see if other invites come through.

That said I heard Finnegan's bowling night is fun, and was recommended it by a past PLIP attendee.


Any chance to interact with the firm is a positive to me. Although hopefully rolling strikes is preferred and not required.

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:41 pm

Re: Finnegan bowling

I've heard Finnegan has been slow for some time. A number of partner departures between 2012-2014 really hurt the firm. A lot of the experienced IP associates forecast some doom over there.

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Re: Finnegan bowling

I've heard Finnegan has been slow for some time. A number of partner departures between 2012-2014 really hurt the firm. A lot of the experienced IP associates forecast some doom over there.


Finnegan PPP is up ~1% from 2012 from 1,160,000 to 1,175,000 at a time where Winston & Strawn (the destination of the ITC team in 2013) is up ~20% from 1,460,000 to 1,750,000 over the same period.

I spoke with one of the partners at W&S who had left Finnegan and he said he left for financial issues, looking to seek a firm that held no debt. I don't know the validity of that statement (or if it was just a front and W&S gave them a sweet deal). But take it FWIW.

EDIT: The W&S partner also said to me "at Finnegan, there was a company tab that Partners could use to take Associates out for drinks every week. Here at Winston, if a partner wants to do that it comes out of his own tab." Which I thought was a very odd thing to say to a student interested in joining the firm, but I took it as candid honesty.

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:49 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Re: Finnegan bowling

I've heard Finnegan has been slow for some time. A number of partner departures between 2012-2014 really hurt the firm. A lot of the experienced IP associates forecast some doom over there.


Finnegan PPP is up ~1% from 2012 from 1,160,000 to 1,175,000 at a time where Winston & Strawn (the destination of the ITC team in 2013) is up ~20% from 1,460,000 to 1,750,000 over the same period.

I spoke with one of the partners at W&S who had left Finnegan and he said he left for financial issues, looking to seek a firm that held no debt. I don't know the validity of that statement (or if it was just a front and W&S gave them a sweet deal). But take it FWIW.

EDIT: The W&S partner also said to me "at Finnegan, there was a company tab that Partners could use to take Associates out for drinks every week. Here at Winston, if a partner wants to do that it comes out of his own tab." Which I thought was a very odd thing to say to a student interested in joining the firm, but I took it as candid honesty.


I'm the quoted anon. I'm actually familiar with that ITC group and have a great impression of them. When they left, ATL did an article about how it was the loss of major rainmakers. They are not the only Finnegan departures from recent years I had in mind. I can think of three relatively new boutiques off the top of my head (Bookoff McAndrews is one, Kelly IP is another) which was formed by departed Finnegan attorneys.

I've known more than one Finnegan associate over the years, and I know many IP associates. I keep hearing tales of doom.

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Re: 2017 PLIP

Postby PotatoSalad » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:50 pm

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