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Re: DPW Associates Taking Q's

Postby christianllang » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:01 am

Anonymous User wrote:I'm a summer at DPW. Is it normal not to get much feedback? I've done a lot of junior/rotator level stuff on a few deals, but no ones really given me any substantive feedback. Everyone is super thankful to the point of absurdity whenever I turn something in, but rarely tells me if I did a good job or not. Are they just too busy? Or am I gonna get boned in my mid-summer review?


Agree with the normalcy. But give this a look: https://blacklinesandbillables.com/asso ... -feedback/. Same concept applies to summers, as well. (As a former DPW lawyer myself, you definitely have to be proactive to get the feedback you need.)

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Re: DPW Associates Taking Q's

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:20 pm

Any advice for someone who desperately wants to rotate through both M&A and Cap Markets? It seems very rare that someone gets both. I enjoyed both practices during my summer and really want a rotation through both in order to make an informed decision.

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Re: DPW Associates Taking Q's

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:37 am

Anonymous User wrote:Any advice for someone who desperately wants to rotate through both M&A and Cap Markets? It seems very rare that someone gets both. I enjoyed both practices during my summer and really want a rotation through both in order to make an informed decision.

No way to guarantee it as your first two, very possible to do the missing one as a 3rd but you will want to communicate this desire to associate development and keep it on their radar (and have reasons why if they ask).

If you want to give yourself the best shot at getting it for your first two you should rank CapM first and M&A second and flip flop them for the second rotation preferences. Ranking M&A first all but rules you out of a second rotation in CapM since M&A is for some reason viewed as competitive/a privilege to get into. You should also be strategic to rank less popular groups as low as possible. I think 6th is the lowest I've heard of someone ranking something and getting it as a rotation, and generally for the first one you will get one of your top 3.

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Re: DPW Associates Taking Q's

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:45 am

What are DPWs grade cutoffs for MVP? Do candidates get an advantage for having a higher GPA than the floor, or does it not really matter as long as you meet the cutoff?

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Re: DPW Associates Taking Q's

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What are DPWs grade cutoffs for MVP? Do candidates get an advantage for having a higher GPA than the floor, or does it not really matter as long as you meet the cutoff?

The firm never tells associates the cutoffs but if you look at who ends up hired from MVP they are usually LR caliber candidates. If you don't check any diversity box I think top third or so is likely required, though if you are a URM or a female median (or even slightly below) is probably fine.

Once you are in the door for a CB I think grades matter less at DPW than most of its peers, it's overwhelmingly "fit" to convert the CB (though I've seen amazing grades make up for odd personalities).

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Re: DPW Associates Taking Q's

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:00 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:What are DPWs grade cutoffs for MVP? Do candidates get an advantage for having a higher GPA than the floor, or does it not really matter as long as you meet the cutoff?

The firm never tells associates the cutoffs but if you look at who ends up hired from MVP they are usually LR caliber candidates. If you don't check any diversity box I think top third or so is likely required, though if you are a URM or a female median (or even slightly below) is probably fine.

Once you are in the door for a CB I think grades matter less at DPW than most of its peers, it's overwhelmingly "fit" to convert the CB (though I've seen amazing grades make up for odd personalities).


Will DPW hire 3L this fall at all? If so, for what groups? Would the grade cutoff be a little higher given the 2L grade inflation?

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Re: DPW Associates Taking Q's

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:29 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:What are DPWs grade cutoffs for MVP? Do candidates get an advantage for having a higher GPA than the floor, or does it not really matter as long as you meet the cutoff?

The firm never tells associates the cutoffs but if you look at who ends up hired from MVP they are usually LR caliber candidates. If you don't check any diversity box I think top third or so is likely required, though if you are a URM or a female median (or even slightly below) is probably fine.

Once you are in the door for a CB I think grades matter less at DPW than most of its peers, it's overwhelmingly "fit" to convert the CB (though I've seen amazing grades make up for odd personalities).


Will DPW hire 3L this fall at all? If so, for what groups? Would the grade cutoff be a little higher given the 2L grade inflation?

There are almost always 3L hires directly into FIG, Exec Comp and Credit which tend to be filled by very good students from lower ranked schools. There are often but not always 3L hires into the corporate rotation system but these tend to be some combination of 1. T10 students, 2. Summered at competing firms as 2Ls, 3. Had DPW offers as 2Ls and 4. Check a diversity box. I don't believe the grade cutoff is inflated per se but it's a more competitive pool since we are talking about like 10-12 spots instead of 150. Lit doesn't generally do 3L hiring but it will take post-clerks who didn't summer at DPW.

They've not said anything about expected 3L hiring this fall and generally won't until interviews are imminent. We will just get calendar invites to do interviews and find out by opening their/your resume that you are a 3L and if it's a group specific interview it'll be mentioned then (day before/morning of your interview).

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Re: DPW Associates Taking Q's

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:56 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What are DPWs grade cutoffs for MVP? Do candidates get an advantage for having a higher GPA than the floor, or does it not really matter as long as you meet the cutoff?

The firm never tells associates the cutoffs but if you look at who ends up hired from MVP they are usually LR caliber candidates. If you don't check any diversity box I think top third or so is likely required, though if you are a URM or a female median (or even slightly below) is probably fine.

Once you are in the door for a CB I think grades matter less at DPW than most of its peers, it's overwhelmingly "fit" to convert the CB (though I've seen amazing grades make up for odd personalities).


Will DPW hire 3L this fall at all? If so, for what groups? Would the grade cutoff be a little higher given the 2L grade inflation?

There are almost always 3L hires directly into FIG, Exec Comp and Credit which tend to be filled by very good students from lower ranked schools. There are often but not always 3L hires into the corporate rotation system but these tend to be some combination of 1. T10 students, 2. Summered at competing firms as 2Ls, 3. Had DPW offers as 2Ls and 4. Check a diversity box. I don't believe the grade cutoff is inflated per se but it's a more competitive pool since we are talking about like 10-12 spots instead of 150. Lit doesn't generally do 3L hiring but it will take post-clerks who didn't summer at DPW.

They've not said anything about expected 3L hiring this fall and generally won't until interviews are imminent. We will just get calendar invites to do interviews and find out by opening their/your resume that you are a 3L and if it's a group specific interview it'll be mentioned then (day before/morning of your interview).


Thank you so much! I am planning on applying. Any tips on interviewing as a 3L (if I'm lucky enough to get one)?

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Re: DPW Associates Taking Q's

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:55 am

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Anonymous User wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:What are DPWs grade cutoffs for MVP? Do candidates get an advantage for having a higher GPA than the floor, or does it not really matter as long as you meet the cutoff?

The firm never tells associates the cutoffs but if you look at who ends up hired from MVP they are usually LR caliber candidates. If you don't check any diversity box I think top third or so is likely required, though if you are a URM or a female median (or even slightly below) is probably fine.

Once you are in the door for a CB I think grades matter less at DPW than most of its peers, it's overwhelmingly "fit" to convert the CB (though I've seen amazing grades make up for odd personalities).


Will DPW hire 3L this fall at all? If so, for what groups? Would the grade cutoff be a little higher given the 2L grade inflation?

There are almost always 3L hires directly into FIG, Exec Comp and Credit which tend to be filled by very good students from lower ranked schools. There are often but not always 3L hires into the corporate rotation system but these tend to be some combination of 1. T10 students, 2. Summered at competing firms as 2Ls, 3. Had DPW offers as 2Ls and 4. Check a diversity box. I don't believe the grade cutoff is inflated per se but it's a more competitive pool since we are talking about like 10-12 spots instead of 150. Lit doesn't generally do 3L hiring but it will take post-clerks who didn't summer at DPW.

They've not said anything about expected 3L hiring this fall and generally won't until interviews are imminent. We will just get calendar invites to do interviews and find out by opening their/your resume that you are a 3L and if it's a group specific interview it'll be mentioned then (day before/morning of your interview).


Just wanted to correct the point that lit doesn't generally hire 3Ls. I was a 3L lit hire once upon a time.

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Re: DPW Associates Taking Q's

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What are DPWs grade cutoffs for MVP? Do candidates get an advantage for having a higher GPA than the floor, or does it not really matter as long as you meet the cutoff?

The firm never tells associates the cutoffs but if you look at who ends up hired from MVP they are usually LR caliber candidates. If you don't check any diversity box I think top third or so is likely required, though if you are a URM or a female median (or even slightly below) is probably fine.

Once you are in the door for a CB I think grades matter less at DPW than most of its peers, it's overwhelmingly "fit" to convert the CB (though I've seen amazing grades make up for odd personalities).


Will DPW hire 3L this fall at all? If so, for what groups? Would the grade cutoff be a little higher given the 2L grade inflation?

There are almost always 3L hires directly into FIG, Exec Comp and Credit which tend to be filled by very good students from lower ranked schools. There are often but not always 3L hires into the corporate rotation system but these tend to be some combination of 1. T10 students, 2. Summered at competing firms as 2Ls, 3. Had DPW offers as 2Ls and 4. Check a diversity box. I don't believe the grade cutoff is inflated per se but it's a more competitive pool since we are talking about like 10-12 spots instead of 150. Lit doesn't generally do 3L hiring but it will take post-clerks who didn't summer at DPW.

They've not said anything about expected 3L hiring this fall and generally won't until interviews are imminent. We will just get calendar invites to do interviews and find out by opening their/your resume that you are a 3L and if it's a group specific interview it'll be mentioned then (day before/morning of your interview).


Thank you so much! I am planning on applying. Any tips on interviewing as a 3L (if I'm lucky enough to get one)?

If you are interviewing into a practice group have very informed and sophisticated reasons why you want to do that with your career and in all cases have a good reason for wanting to switch firms that doesn't scream "trading up". Once you get the interview I'd try to connect with juniors at DPW who are alums of your school to give you some good talking points about specific groups and the firm. Classmates/current summers would work too but actual associates would be far better. Otherwise you should do your best to be as relaxed and conversational as possible, our interviews tend to be <10 minutes of resume focused questions and then just an organic conversation where the person is judging whether they think you would fit in.



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