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Tax Law LLM

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:32 pm

Admitted into LLM in tax law at UCLA, Loyola LA and Georgetown. Don't want to leave LA, it's home and more convenient. Would rather go to UCLA and stay and network in the community. Crazy idea? I'm still a 3L and no solid leads in LA, moving back home to LA after the CA bar in July.

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Re: Tax Law LLM

Postby Alt123 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:34 pm

I get wanting to stay in LA, but why UCLA over Loyola? Loyola is #5 and UCLA isn't anywhere close to the top 10 for Tax LLM.

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Re: Tax Law LLM

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:41 pm

I'm paying for the name, to some extent. Do people interested in hiring tax LLM's really care about the tax law program itself, unless it's NYU or Georgetown? I like UCLA, I want to stay in LA, and UCLA Law > Loyola Law = So, UCLA? What do you think?

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Re: Tax Law LLM

Postby Alt123 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm paying for the name, to some extent. Do people interested in hiring tax LLM's really care about the tax law program itself, unless it's NYU or Georgetown? I like UCLA, I want to stay in LA, and UCLA Law > Loyola Law = So, UCLA? What do you think?


As someone going to Loyola/Pepperdine/USD and interested in tax, I can tell you that when people discuss tax llm programs in California they talk about USD or Loyola, because they're specifically talking about the #5/6 tax LLM programs. I think UCLA surely carries a lot of weight for your JD program, but I've never once heard someone mention UCLA when it comes to Tax LLMs. I feel like the weight means more at the JD level, much like how the weight for NYU/GULC means a lot more at the LLM level.

I could be full of shit and completely wrong though, I am just going off of what I know from being down in SoCal. Everyone I've worked with that has an LLM either got it from USD, Loyola, NYU or GULC. I haven't seen too many other places down here.

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Re: Tax Law LLM

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:50 pm

As someone going to Loyola/Pepperdine/USD and interested in tax, I can tell you that when people discuss tax llm programs in California they talk about USD or Loyola, because they're specifically talking about the #5/6 tax LLM programs. I think UCLA surely carries a lot of weight for your JD program, but I've never once heard someone mention UCLA when it comes to Tax LLMs. I feel like the weight means more at the JD level, much like how the weight for NYU/GULC means a lot more at the LLM level.

I could be full of shit and completely wrong though, I am just going off of what I know from being down in SoCal. Everyone I've worked with that has an LLM either got it from USD, Loyola, NYU or GULC. I haven't seen too many other places down here.


Your explanation sounds about right. So, just to be clear, you are going for the tax llm, right? Which of the schools you mentioned are you leaning most towards?

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Re: Tax Law LLM

Postby Alt123 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
As someone going to Loyola/Pepperdine/USD and interested in tax, I can tell you that when people discuss tax llm programs in California they talk about USD or Loyola, because they're specifically talking about the #5/6 tax LLM programs. I think UCLA surely carries a lot of weight for your JD program, but I've never once heard someone mention UCLA when it comes to Tax LLMs. I feel like the weight means more at the JD level, much like how the weight for NYU/GULC means a lot more at the LLM level.

I could be full of shit and completely wrong though, I am just going off of what I know from being down in SoCal. Everyone I've worked with that has an LLM either got it from USD, Loyola, NYU or GULC. I haven't seen too many other places down here.


Your explanation sounds about right. So, just to be clear, you are going for the tax llm, right? Which of the schools you mentioned are you leaning most towards?


Well, fuck it, I'll out myself I guess. I go to USD and am likely going to finish it there because they offer a joint JD/LLM program so I can finish the tax LLM in one semester. I got accepted into Loyola as well but I am not sure if I want to repeat another semester/pay more in tuition. I currently work in SD but it's not in tax, and I like tax a lot from the tax controversy work I did previously, so I would like to move into that area. I feel like the market is much smaller down here, so I would consider Loyola for that reason of hopefully networking up there, as I assume there would be more opportunities. I haven't heard back from NYU yet, but, I kinda doubt I'll get accepted since I didn't do early admissions.

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Re: Tax Law LLM

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:51 pm

That was brave. I purposefully did not quote you in case you want to delete it later.

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Re: Tax Law LLM

Postby lawman84 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:49 am

I think the Tax LLM rankings are a rare instance where the specialty rankings do matter a lot.

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Re: Tax Law LLM

Postby nealric » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:01 pm

What are you looking to do with your LLM?

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Re: Tax Law LLM

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:43 pm

In the perfect world, I'd merge my tax knowledge with my desire for trial work. I'm also fascinated with areas of white collar crime and tax crimes in general.

I'm not aiming for big law per se, I'd like to work for a mid size law firm that has steady clientele and will give me the opportunity to also try a case or two every year. I'm also interested in tax law policy as it relates to cyber and tech and would like to publish something in that field of law in the near future.

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Re: Tax Law LLM

Postby nealric » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:12 am

Anonymous User wrote:In the perfect world, I'd merge my tax knowledge with my desire for trial work. I'm also fascinated with areas of white collar crime and tax crimes in general.

I'm not aiming for big law per se, I'd like to work for a mid size law firm that has steady clientele and will give me the opportunity to also try a case or two every year. I'm also interested in tax law policy as it relates to cyber and tech and would like to publish something in that field of law in the near future.


I'm not sure your goal is very realistic.

Criminal tax work is a very, very, niche field. Generally speaking, you REALLY have to thumb your nose at the government to get prosecuted for criminal tax evasion, which means actual prosecutions are not particularly common. There are a few boutiques that have this work as a specialty, but the number of entry level opportunities will be tiny. General (non-tax) white collar prosecutions are MUCH more common.

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Re: Tax Law LLM

Postby timesnewboston » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:19 am

Would Gtown tax llm admits mind sharing their stats? I submitted late and I'm still waiting. Really want to stay in DC cuz of SO




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