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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:STB NY: 77 or 76

Columbia - 13
Harvard - 11
NYU - 7
UVA - 3
Penn - 7
Fordham - 1
Stanford - 3
Duke - 2
GULC - 3
Yale - 4
UChicago - 7
UMichigan – 2
Seton Hall – 2
Vanderbilt – 1
St. Johns -2
Cornell - 4
Northwestern - 4


This seems way down from past years


What were the past years?


I thought STB NY was always ~100

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby RaceJudicata » Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:04 pm

Per NALP - 2015 = 91 SAs (and of course, 91 offers).

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:53 pm

There are 108 total at STB this year Houston – 6, Los Angeles – 4, Palo Alto - 15, Washington DC – 6. So idk where that leaves us

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:53 pm

There are 108 total at STB this year Houston – 6, Los Angeles – 4, Palo Alto - 15, Washington DC – 6. So idk where that leaves us

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Wild Card » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:28 pm

Consistently embarrassing performance by NYU among the V5 firms. FTGE.

Anonymous User wrote:STB NY: 77 or 76

Columbia - 13
Harvard - 11
NYU - 7
UVA - 3
Penn - 7
Fordham - 1
Stanford - 3
Duke - 2
GULC - 3
Yale - 4
UChicago - 7
UMichigan – 2
Seton Hall – 2
Vanderbilt – 1
St. Johns -2
Cornell - 4
Northwestern - 4

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby lawlorbust » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:03 am

Wild Card wrote:Consistently embarrassing performance by NYU among the V5 firms. FTGE.

Anonymous User wrote:STB NY: 77 or 76

Columbia - 13
Harvard - 11
NYU - 7
UVA - 3
Penn - 7
Fordham - 1
Stanford - 3
Duke - 2
GULC - 3
Yale - 4
UChicago - 7
UMichigan – 2
Seton Hall – 2
Vanderbilt – 1
St. Johns -2
Cornell - 4
Northwestern - 4


Better than Yale!

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:28 pm

Davis Polk, all offices

Total - 138
NYU 23
Columbia 17
Harvard 16
Yale 15
Stanford 7
Penn 7
Virginia 6
Georgetown 5
Michigan 5
Berkeley 4
Fordham 4
Northwestern 4
Cornell 3
Chicago 3
Duke 3
Brooklyn 2
UCLA 2
UC Hastings 2
Hofstra 2
Osgoode 1
George Washington 1
Emory 1
St. John's 1
Vanderbilt 1
Howard 1
BYU 1
Seton Hall 1

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:31 pm

S&C all offices - 127 SAs (including at least some 1Ls)

Harvard - 19
Yale - 13
Columbia - 10
NYU - 10
UTexas - 6
UVA - 5
Chicago - 4
Cornell - 4
Toronto - 4
USC - 4
William & Mary - 4
Duke - 3
Fordham - 3
Michigan - 3
UCLA - 3
BC - 2
BU - 2
BYU - 2
Emory - 2
GW - 2
GULC - 2
Minnesota - 2
Penn - 2
Berkeley - 1
Georgia - 1
Illinois - 1
Osgoode - 1
Pepperdine - 1
Ohio State - 1
Tulane - 1
UC Hastings - 1
Vanderbilt - 1
Villanova - 1
WUSTL - 1

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Monochromatic Oeuvre » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:20 am

Anonymous User wrote:S&C all offices - 127 SAs (including at least some 1Ls)

Harvard - 19
Yale - 13
Columbia - 10
NYU - 10
UTexas - 6
UVA - 5
Chicago - 4
Cornell - 4
Toronto - 4
USC - 4
William & Mary - 4
Duke - 3
Fordham - 3
Michigan - 3
UCLA - 3
BC - 2
BU - 2
BYU - 2
Emory - 2
GW - 2
GULC - 2
Minnesota - 2
Penn - 2
Berkeley - 1
Georgia - 1
Illinois - 1
Osgoode - 1
Pepperdine - 1
Ohio State - 1
Tulane - 1
UC Hastings - 1
Vanderbilt - 1
Villanova - 1
WUSTL - 1


Was S&C's recruiter at W&M just in a particularly good mood that day or what?

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby lavarman84 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:29 am

Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:Was S&C's recruiter at W&M just in a particularly good mood that day or what?


He actually was supposed to meet the rest of the group at UVA but was so drunk that he took a wrong turn in Richmond. I don't think he ever realized he wasn't at UVA. But the firm was nice enough to keep the offers open. I wonder what sort of blackmail W&M had to make that happen.

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Rahviveh » Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:04 am

So cravath has only 1 Yale compared to 15ish each for DPW and S&C? What's the reason for the discrepancy here?

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:02 pm

Rahviveh wrote:So cravath has only 1 Yale compared to 15ish each for DPW and S&C? What's the reason for the discrepancy here?


One contributing factor is that students at Yale aren't fond of the culture at Cravath or the idea of a full working summer in lit so they prefer its peers year after year--DPW and S&C are consistently in the 10-15 range, compared to CSM <5, since those firms offer the same opportunities and pedigree for people that want to spend a summer in the city. At YLS, due in part to the small class size and close-knit bordering on incestuous community, student opinions of firms from upper years have a significant impact on where the next classes choose to go; a number of well regarded students chose and work at DPW and S&C, and a number of other students may have had subpar experiences at Cravath, and that can have a lingering impact several years out. It's a very fickle process (and this doesn't apply to just these three firms): When several YLS students summer at any firm and come away with a particularly or negative and particularly positive impression--or get no-offered--word gets around. Similar at other top schools like SLS and CLS but perhaps not quite to the same extent (HLS might be large enough for relative anonymity to dominate the process, idk, although I'm sure there's institutional knowledge operating there as well).

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:30 pm

Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.

The Skadden/Cornell thing I find harder to explain. I know Skadden usually doesn't take many from Cornell, but I think many of the S&C/Cravath kids had Skadden offers and simply shy away from Skadden. I know the same argument can be made to many firms, but my impression is the elite Cornell kids almost blindly favor Cravath over Skadden.

Interestingly, Cleary took a ton of Cornell kids last year.

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:40 pm

O'Melveny & Myers NY:

BC - 1
Brooklyn - 1
Columbia - 3
Fordham - 4
GWU - 1
Harvard -2
NYU - 5
UChicago - 1
Yale - 1
Stanford - 1

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.

The Skadden/Cornell thing I find harder to explain. I know Skadden usually doesn't take many from Cornell, but I think many of the S&C/Cravath kids had Skadden offers and simply shy away from Skadden. I know the same argument can be made to many firms, but my impression is the elite Cornell kids almost blindly favor Cravath over Skadden.

Interestingly, Cleary took a ton of Cornell kids last year.

Cornell 3L here:

The partners who come to Cornell from Cravath are really, really good at what they do with respect to selling students on the "culture" of the firm.

The Skadden reputation at Cornell is ...not great to say the least. Skadden does give out a fair # of CBs, but many students turn down offers from them each year due to "sweatshop" rumors passed down from upperclassmen who have never worked there (whether true or not, idk).

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Rahviveh » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:27 pm

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Rahviveh wrote:So cravath has only 1 Yale compared to 15ish each for DPW and S&C? What's the reason for the discrepancy here?


One contributing factor is that students at Yale aren't fond of the culture at Cravath or the idea of a full working summer in lit so they prefer its peers year after year--DPW and S&C are consistently in the 10-15 range, compared to CSM <5, since those firms offer the same opportunities and pedigree for people that want to spend a summer in the city. At YLS, due in part to the small class size and close-knit bordering on incestuous community, student opinions of firms from upper years have a significant impact on where the next classes choose to go; a number of well regarded students chose and work at DPW and S&C, and a number of other students may have had subpar experiences at Cravath, and that can have a lingering impact several years out. It's a very fickle process (and this doesn't apply to just these three firms): When several YLS students summer at any firm and come away with a particularly or negative and particularly positive impression--or get no-offered--word gets around. Similar at other top schools like SLS and CLS but perhaps not quite to the same extent (HLS might be large enough for relative anonymity to dominate the process, idk, although I'm sure there's institutional knowledge operating there as well).


I figured S&C was a working summer as well but if not then that makes sense. Yale students just want that check cut and to chill all summmer and have no intention of going back. 180

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.



This also happened at Columbia this year. Lot of people turned down Wachtell for Cravath.

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:04 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.



This also happened at Columbia this year. Lot of people turned down Wachtell for Cravath.


Really? I've heard of one (1) person at Crvath who turned down Wachtell. Would be very surprised if it was "lots".

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:15 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.



This also happened at Columbia this year. Lot of people turned down Wachtell for Cravath.


Really? I've heard of one (1) person at Crvath who turned down Wachtell. Would be very surprised if it was "lots".


1-2 people turn down Wachtell for another V5 each year. My year it was DPW, the year before me it was CSM, the year after I think S&C or DPW. It's definitely not "lots."

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby bearsfan23 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:21 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.



This also happened at Columbia this year. Lot of people turned down Wachtell for Cravath.


I'm sure :roll:

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Rahviveh » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:23 am

bearsfan23 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Cornell seems to be the opposite with respect to what people are pointing out with the Cravath trend at Yale. The top of the class at Cornell mostly took the Cravath offer over other peer firms.



This also happened at Columbia this year. Lot of people turned down Wachtell for Cravath.


I'm sure :roll:

Lol yeah what kind of dummy turns down wachtell for cravath or s&c?

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:28 am

At least two Cornellians turned down Wachtell for Cravath and another firm this year. Whether they are dummies remain to be seen, but it happens

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:23 am

Really? I heard Wachtell only offered one person at Cornell in the last few years?

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:23 am

Really? I heard Wachtell only offered one person at Cornell in the last few years?

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Re: Summer Classes 2017 Edition

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:30 am

Anonymous User wrote:Really? I heard Wachtell only offered one person at Cornell in the last few years?

Not true. At all.




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