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Grades or Bar Class?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:22 pm

3L heading into my last semester.

Background: I go to a lower T1 school in a major city, on law review, etc. Have a biglaw job lined up. Here is my dilemma..

I am a terrible standardized test taker - shit the bed on LSAT (3x) despite consistently good practice scores (hence the school im at). I get VERY nervous for whatever reason whenever I take a standardized test. Despite that, I'm a pretty good law school test taker.

My dilemma: I'm just on the edge of Magna cum laude honors going into my final semester. Should i take classes that I know I'll ace or take Trusts/Estates and Secured Transactions to help me begin bar prep early? Both of these classes (and the prof's teaching them this semester) are significantly more difficult than the other courses I could take.

The reason I'd gun for latin honors is that I'd potentially like to clerk in 2019 or 2020 (which may be a stretch given my school - but a fair number of folks from past few years have done so with similar grades).

Any thoughts are appreciated. I also understand that this sounds ridiculous, but maxing out my grades is likely my only shot at a clerkship, so I want to do what I can to keep that chance alive.

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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby trebekismyhero » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:3L heading into my last semester.

Background: I go to a lower T1 school in a major city, on law review, etc. Have a biglaw job lined up. Here is my dilemma..

I am a terrible standardized test taker - shit the bed on LSAT (3x) despite consistently good practice scores (hence the school im at). I get VERY nervous for whatever reason whenever I take a standardized test. Despite that, I'm a pretty good law school test taker.

My dilemma: I'm just on the edge of Magna cum laude honors going into my final semester. Should i take classes that I know I'll ace or take Trusts/Estates and Secured Transactions to help me begin bar prep early? Both of these classes (and the prof's teaching them this semester) are significantly more difficult than the other courses I could take.

The reason I'd gun for latin honors is that I'd potentially like to clerk in 2019 or 2020 (which may be a stretch given my school - but a fair number of folks from past few years have done so with similar grades).

Any thoughts are appreciated. I also understand that this sounds ridiculous, but maxing out my grades is likely my only shot at a clerkship, so I want to do what I can to keep that chance alive.


Just take what you want. Bar prep will teach you what you need to know

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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:37 pm

The bar exam is closer to a law-school exam than it is to a SAT/LSAT-type standardized test.

I'd gun for latin honors.

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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby alphagamma » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:43 pm

rpupkin wrote:The bar exam is closer to a law-school exam than it is to a SAT/LSAT-type standardized test.

I'd gun for latin honors.

Agreed.

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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:54 pm

I think the "bar class" idea is kind of a flame. The bar requires a very minimal understanding of each subject. I would definitely choose to improve your GPA.

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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby North » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:27 pm

As someone who took almost no fluff classes (despite First Offense repeatedly telling me how stupid it was), 100% take fluff classes for grades. You're not learning anything anyway.

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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby LaLiLuLeLo » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:52 pm

Agreed that bar classes are a flame. I think I took just one outside of 1L required classes (so I essentially went in blind for crim pro/evidence, etc) and even if I had taken them I would've forgotten. Bar prep classes will teach you everything you need to know. I was more concerned with scheduling in 2L and took tough classes so my gpa suffered. In 3L I took ezpz classes and it was so much better. Boost that gpa.
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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:01 am

Easy classes it is. Thanks for the responses.

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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby mjb447 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:01 am

Signing on to "bar classes are a flame." Even if some aren't (some people find taking Evidence helpful to start learning the terminology), definitely don't forego your GPA goals to take Trusts/Estates and Secured Transactions with difficult profs.

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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:16 am

Cosigning everyone else. And FWIW, everyone (as in, even profs) told me that trusts and estates was pretty easy to learn for the bar, and I thought that was absolutely true. Secured Transactions, eh, my essay was pretty bad and I can't even recognize anything in the wikipedia discussion as anything I learned, but the bar really does test minimal competence and you'll be fine. The part that's more like LSAT/SAT is the MBE, and you've taken those courses already.

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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby gregfootball2001 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:29 pm

Cosigning with one exception. If you haven't taken Evidence, I think it's helpful. Depending on your state, it can be on both parts, so you could get hit with it twice. I think that some of the nuances are easier to learn over the course of a semester than during bar prep. As to T&E/Secured Transactions, though, meh. You'll learn the very basics during prep.

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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby North » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:48 pm

Yeah I agree, evidence was actually pretty helpful for the bar because I got it in both the MBE and my state essays.

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Re: Grades or Bar Class?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:52 pm

OP Here. Thanks for the replies. I'm going to take the easier classes and gun for honors. Also re evidence - I already took that, and am glad I did.

thanks, all.



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