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Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:12 pm

So actually asking this for a friend who is a 3L now, because I have no idea if this works since I never thought of it when I graduated and he asked my advice.

Basically, firm covers all moving expenses, up to something like 3-5k. Move isn't that difficult, same state but different cities. Friend has family members readily available to help move everything, so professional help isn't really needed.

I'm not sure if his firm has a preapproved list of moving companies or if he just submits his receipts and gets reimbursed.

Potential for fraud/pocket money: If he isn't restricted by a preapproved list of companies, he had a thought. Have a family member/friend set up a moving company LLC, "charge" company a reasonable fee, get personally reimbursed by firm.

I had no idea if something like this would work, or if I should just tell him forget it because it's too much trouble for just maybe a few hundred/thousand.

Anyone have thoughts on it?

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby trebekismyhero » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:14 pm

A truly terrible idea

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby TheSpanishMain » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:14 pm

Your "friend" seems like an idiot.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:21 pm

trebekismyhero wrote:A truly terrible idea


That was my first reaction and just wanted to be sure sure others agreed. He seemed pretty dead set on it so I didn't want to shoot him down too early.

TheSpanishMain wrote:Your "friend" seems like an idiot.


You'd be surprised at the quality of intelligence or common sense that ends up in Biglaw sometimes.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
trebekismyhero wrote:A truly terrible idea


That was my first reaction and just wanted to be sure sure others agreed. He seemed pretty dead set on it so I didn't want to shoot him down too early.

TheSpanishMain wrote:Your "friend" seems like an idiot.


You'd be surprised at the quality of intelligence or common sense that ends up in Biglaw sometimes.


To echo, this is so stupid. The amount of work this would take to do and then cover your tracks, and then the risk involved down the line, all to earn 3-5k? That's like literally 1 week's salary.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby Devlin » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:12 pm

TheSpanishMain wrote:Your "friend" seems like an idiot.

OP also seems like an idiot for even asking this question without first calling his "friend" an idiot.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby Bluem_11 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:39 pm

The MPRE doesn't really do what it's supposed to do.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby EncyclopediaOrange » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:55 pm

Bluem_11 wrote:The MPRE doesn't really do what it's supposed to do.


But at least it teaches us not to sleep with clients unless you were already sleeping with them before you started the representation!

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby LaLiLuLeLo » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:02 pm

EncyclopediaOrange wrote:
Bluem_11 wrote:The MPRE doesn't really do what it's supposed to do.


But at least it teaches us not to sleep with clients unless you were already sleeping with them before you started the representation!


Hope CA doesn't change this rule. I wouldn't have become an attorney if I couldn't sleep with clients.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 08, 2017 7:13 pm

scamming own firm. Seems questionable. Also, so much work and effort involved in pulling this off, for a mere 3-5k. Also, if you're caught, you're done

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:20 pm

Haha your "friend" could easily end up fired over this, and it could be a major problem for bar application.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby NYC2012 » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:00 pm

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby jbagelboy » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:34 pm

Lol. Awesome. Do it. Report back

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby sawyercb » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:12 pm

I call flame on this post. No one could possibly think this is a good idea.

But tell him to do it and report back.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby 1styearlateral » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:30 pm

Masterfully executed flame. 10/10

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby elendinel » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:48 pm

Sounds like an excellent idea.

He should also get his family to purchase a building in the city, rent it to him, and then ask his firm for a month's rent in relocation costs.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:19 pm

1styearlateral wrote:Masterfully executed flame. 10/10


No flame! No flame! You're the flame!

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby emkay625 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:44 pm

What on God's green earth....

No. Your friend should not attempt to defraud his firm before he starts working there.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby 1styearlateral » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:04 pm

emkay625 wrote:Your friend should not attempt to defraud his firm before he starts working there.

He should at least wait until after he's started (but before he has been admitted to the bar). That should speed up his C&F process.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby waldorf » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:18 pm

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:09 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
1styearlateral wrote:Masterfully executed flame. 10/10


No flame! No flame! You're the flame!


No you're the puppet!

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby zot1 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:25 pm

About to make 160k/yr but let's risk all of that to get an extra 1k right now.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:30 pm

This is obviously a bad idea, but I understand where OP is coming from. It seemed ridiculous to pay what I paid for movers and then have the firm reimburse for a relatively short move from DC to NY. Definitely would have just done it with my brother if there was an option to get even $500 from my firm to not spend multiple times that on movers, but also obviously didn't decide to defraud them.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby iliketurtles123 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:55 pm

Flame or not (probably not), morally/ethically right or not, this will most likely work (in my inexperienced opinion)... and not saying OP's friend should do it though

There are reasons not to do this but it would most likely work and it isn't even that hard.

[edit: deleted by me. Just wrote a whole spiel about how easy it is to do this but didn't want to give anyone any ideas]

But don't do it.
Low probability of getting caught x huge magnitude = high risk
Oh. Well there are ethical/moral reasons too.

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Re: Moving Expenses Covered - Possible to Earn Money?

Postby RaceJudicata » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:This is obviously a bad idea, but I understand where OP is coming from. It seemed ridiculous to pay what I paid for movers and then have the firm reimburse for a relatively short move from DC to NY. Definitely would have just done it with my brother if there was an option to get even $500 from my firm to not spend multiple times that on movers, but also obviously didn't decide to defraud them.


This is one of the more ridiculous comments i've seen today. DC to NY sounds like a pain in the fucking ass move (parking in nyc, walk ups, etc.). I'll take that reimbursement, give a fat tip, and enjoy a sweat free move.



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