Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

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Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:04 pm

Did super bad on my first semester at a t14, any chance I can land a SA now? No ties or connections really.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby BigZuck » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:12 pm

Maybe? But probably not?

What exactly are you looking for here? Condolences? If so, condolences. Still a whole semester to salvage your 1L GPA.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby Easterbork » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:12 pm

Obviously it is a factor that will hurt. Not sure what t14 you are at, but most people do not get a 1L SA. You should focus on figuring out what you did wrong and correcting that. Try to go over exams with your profs and see if you need to change your exam taking strategy. The money from a 1L SA is great and it is looked upon favorably, but not working at a big law firm your first summer is the norm, and as long as you get law-related employment of some kind you'll be fine.

In short, the issue isn't your chances of getting a 1L SA, it's that it will hurt you chances of getting a 2L SA and your focus should be on improving your grades in the second semester so that you can put yourself in the best position possible to be able to do that.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby dabigchina » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:19 pm

HYS? URM? What kind of URM?

But super bad 1L grades usually put you out of the running.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby mjb447 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:29 pm

Your post doesn't contain very much information, but if you don't have grades, ties, or connections, what do you have?

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:43 pm

URM out of school for a few years with WE.

No GPA or Rankings at my school.

Lost on where to begin with improving. Met with a professor but she was really not any help.
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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby pancakes3 » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:44 pm

you were never going to land a 1L SA anyway. still in the running for OCI and that's all that matters.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby 1styearlateral » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:06 pm

Go intern with a judge for free.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby Pneumonia » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:14 pm

People have grades already?

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby nunumaster » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:42 pm

most people don't get 1L SA despite grades. Suck it up and try to find something else paid, you're still good for 2L OCI.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby zhenders » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:08 pm

If by super bad you actually and without exaggeration mean super bad -- as opposed to being a gunner upset about median -- then yes, you're probably out for 1L SAs. But if you're at median, you're not necessarily out.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:07 am

What is "super bad" in the legal profession?

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby BasilHallward » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:14 pm

edit: Grammar
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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby BasilHallward » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:14 pm

Isn't the whole point of posting anon to supply more than a modicum of information, so we can actually give you feedback. You're not getting a 1L SA. Suck it up and nail the upcoming semester.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby skers » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:37 pm

Depending on how bad your grades are, you could still get a diversity scholarship position, but those aren't really always promises of a future slot and are more token efforts for partners to show on pamphlets and websites how diverse they apparently are.

Jobs aren't really guaranteed, URM or not with bad grades, and I know several URM strikeouts at various t14 schools (Native American w/ 1L SA for instance). Grades are way more of a crapshoot than anyone wants to admit, but meet with every professor to figure out what to fix.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:46 pm

I went on multiple 1L SA screeners, but was not taken seriously with my 3.0 gpa. That being said, went into 2L OCI with a 3.1 overall 1L gpa and had like 10 call backs and multiple offers.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:10 pm

Thanks guys, especially the last anon.

It just sucks b/c I studied so much and though I killed those tests. I'm just going to try and do better next semester.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:23 pm

Try meeting with at least one other professor to see if they're more helpful. Frankly, I think sometimes the curve is tight enough in classes that it's hard for a prof to explain the grade you got without all the other exams to reference, or some profs just aren't good at explaining that stuff. You may have better luck with others.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:14 am

Thanks Nony, I will do that as well!

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby jingosaur » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:24 am

Since you are URM, you should apply to diversity programs anyay. You might land something. Worst case is you get some experience before OCI.

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Re: Bad Grades, no chance of 1L SA?

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:27 pm

without any other information, yes, you have no chance at a 1L SA. Start applying for other jobs.



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