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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby Mr. Peanutbutter » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anon here with the 30 hours this month. I get that other stub year people have lowish hours too, but my firm is not one with a coordinated/central assigning system, or where I would only get work from one associate. It's free market, so I'm worried people just don't like working with me, or that I need to go out and introduce my self to new associates/partners. I guess I wouldn't mind but I feel like because it's free market, the owness is on me to be proactive so it doesn't look like I'm lazy or not fitting in with my low hours.

No one knows who you are yet. Maybe poke around if you feel like lining something up to ruin the holidays, but really now you should be familiarizing yourself with the office and subject matter and get ready to do good work when you get the opportunity

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:12 pm

45 hours "billed" this month so far, but 30 of that is probono/knowledge management type stuff haha

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby Danger Zone » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:45 hours "billed" this month so far, but 30 of that is probono/knowledge management type stuff haha

That's not what billing means

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby ur_hero » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:35 pm

Danger Zone wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:45 hours "billed" this month so far, but 30 of that is probono/knowledge management type stuff haha

That's not what billing means


I think he may mean that he gets billable credit for them, per his firm's policies. Hence the quotes. May be wrong though.

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:44 pm

I hated every minute of biglaw, and I lasted 4 to 5 years. The stress and workload get worse the more senior you get.

Good luck young ones and find an exit ASAP.

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:47 pm

Rising second year associate. Will certainly miss bonus. Good reviews (I guess everyone gets good reviews early, though) and billed 30 hours so far this month.

But I want out of biglaw asap, anyway, so coasting until 'the talk' sounds pretty great as far as I can tell. Is there a reason I'm wrong?

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I hated every minute of biglaw, and I lasted 4 to 5 years. The stress and workload get worse the more senior you get.

Good luck young ones and find an exit ASAP.

Thank you for keeping it real. I'm about a year in now and have been working to find an exit. And I can tell that the stress and workload get much much worse.

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Rising second year associate. Will certainly miss bonus. Good reviews (I guess everyone gets good reviews early, though) and billed 30 hours so far this month.

But I want out of biglaw asap, anyway, so coasting until 'the talk' sounds pretty great as far as I can tell. Is there a reason I'm wrong?


Not really, especially if you don't have too much debt. But do you know where you want to go next?

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby jd20132013 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:50 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Rising second year associate. Will certainly miss bonus. Good reviews (I guess everyone gets good reviews early, though) and billed 30 hours so far this month.

But I want out of biglaw asap, anyway, so coasting until 'the talk' sounds pretty great as far as I can tell. Is there a reason I'm wrong?


I mean do you have your landing spot lined up? Might want to do that before mailing it in

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:55 pm

jd20132013 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Rising second year associate. Will certainly miss bonus. Good reviews (I guess everyone gets good reviews early, though) and billed 30 hours so far this month.

But I want out of biglaw asap, anyway, so coasting until 'the talk' sounds pretty great as far as I can tell. Is there a reason I'm wrong?


I mean do you have your landing spot lined up? Might want to do that before mailing it in


Yeah, no, I don't. I've sent out some apps since I sort of see the writing on the wall with the low hours (though it's not "phoning it in," really -- I reach out and try to be proactive, but the whole group is pretty quiet..I still think I have the lowest hours in my year in the group though), but don't get very much bite considering how junior I am. Sort of hoping that the coasting can last a full year so I'll be more competitive for landing spots down the road. Don't intend to be fall into complete "phone it in" levels until something is actually lined up.

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby jd20132013 » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
jd20132013 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Rising second year associate. Will certainly miss bonus. Good reviews (I guess everyone gets good reviews early, though) and billed 30 hours so far this month.

But I want out of biglaw asap, anyway, so coasting until 'the talk' sounds pretty great as far as I can tell. Is there a reason I'm wrong?


I mean do you have your landing spot lined up? Might want to do that before mailing it in


Yeah, no, I don't. I've sent out some apps since I sort of see the writing on the wall with the low hours (though it's not "phoning it in," really -- I reach out and try to be proactive, but the whole group is pretty quiet..I still think I have the lowest hours in my year in the group though), but don't get very much bite considering how junior I am. Sort of hoping that the coasting can last a full year so I'll be more competitive for landing spots down the road. Don't intend to be fall into complete "phone it in" levels until something is actually lined up.



I assumed by rising second year you meant stub year
If so I highly doubt the "writing is on the wall" frommlow hours alone, although that's not to say you shouldn't move to leave if you know it isn't right for you

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:06 pm

jd20132013 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
jd20132013 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Rising second year associate. Will certainly miss bonus. Good reviews (I guess everyone gets good reviews early, though) and billed 30 hours so far this month.

But I want out of biglaw asap, anyway, so coasting until 'the talk' sounds pretty great as far as I can tell. Is there a reason I'm wrong?


I mean do you have your landing spot lined up? Might want to do that before mailing it in


Yeah, no, I don't. I've sent out some apps since I sort of see the writing on the wall with the low hours (though it's not "phoning it in," really -- I reach out and try to be proactive, but the whole group is pretty quiet..I still think I have the lowest hours in my year in the group though), but don't get very much bite considering how junior I am. Sort of hoping that the coasting can last a full year so I'll be more competitive for landing spots down the road. Don't intend to be fall into complete "phone it in" levels until something is actually lined up.



I assumed by rising second year you meant stub year
If so I highly doubt the "writing is on the wall" frommlow hours alone, although that's not to say you shouldn't move to leave if you know it isn't right for you


Appreciate the advice. No, not a stub year (but only rotated into this group like 4 months ago, so kind of stub-year feeling in an administrative sense I suppose).

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Re: First Year in Biglaw

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:22 pm

ur_hero wrote:
Danger Zone wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:45 hours "billed" this month so far, but 30 of that is probono/knowledge management type stuff haha

That's not what billing means


I think he may mean that he gets billable credit for them, per his firm's policies. Hence the quotes. May be wrong though.


Yes, that is what I meant.




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