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FTC vs. CFPB?
Hey all,
I have summer offers to work in the CFPB and FTC's bureau of consumer protection. Anyone have any input on which one would be better for litigation experience as a new attorney?
I have summer offers to work in the CFPB and FTC's bureau of consumer protection. Anyone have any input on which one would be better for litigation experience as a new attorney?
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
My firm litigated against CFPB many times before and they are pretty badass. It looks like you would get great lit exp. Zero idea on the FTC.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
Good point. Edited for clarity.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Better for what?
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
CFPB, most definitely. Plus, if you can hustle and get a job offer, they are paid on the SEC scale (!!!) instead of the GS scale
Also, CFPB is made up of 4 divisions (if I remember correctly), one of those (I think enforcement) is where the majority of litigation occurs
Also, CFPB is made up of 4 divisions (if I remember correctly), one of those (I think enforcement) is where the majority of litigation occurs
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
The CFPB is indeed badass. It is probable, however, that it would not be long for this world in a certain political climate. You may want to delay your decision for, oh, a few more days.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
CFPB is the better choice. The consumer protection regs are not going anywhere even if the CFPB does.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
Does CFPB do its own litigation? I thought DOJ would litigate for them. As a general matter, "enforcement" divisions in fed agencies only do administrative enforcement, not in-court litigation (with some exceptions like DOL).
FTC Consumer Prot I'm pretty sure litigates though.
FTC Consumer Prot I'm pretty sure litigates though.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
CFPB has independent litigating authority as well.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
All of the financial regulatory agencies do their own civil litigation (both administrative and in court).Anonymous User wrote:Does CFPB do its own litigation? I thought DOJ would litigate for them. As a general matter, "enforcement" divisions in fed agencies only do administrative enforcement, not in-court litigation (with some exceptions like DOL).
FTC Consumer Prot I'm pretty sure litigates though.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
Check out their entry-level hiring, if your goal is eventually to get in at one of them. I know FTC Bureau of Competition has a specialized hiring program for law students, but I haven't heard of anything regarding their entry-level hiring in Consumer Practices. CFPB Enforcement hires one or two a year straight out of law school, and they're the best of the best. If your goal is firm, go CFPB - firms are really interested in people with any experiences because it's so new.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
lapolicia wrote:All of the financial regulatory agencies do their own civil litigation (both administrative and in court).Anonymous User wrote:Does CFPB do its own litigation? I thought DOJ would litigate for them. As a general matter, "enforcement" divisions in fed agencies only do administrative enforcement, not in-court litigation (with some exceptions like DOL).
FTC Consumer Prot I'm pretty sure litigates though.
Good to know.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
Look like the CFPB only brought 24 admin and 5 fed actions this year. I'm not sure about the FTC, but that should say something about how active they are.Anonymous User wrote:Check out their entry-level hiring, if your goal is eventually to get in at one of them. I know FTC Bureau of Competition has a specialized hiring program for law students, but I haven't heard of anything regarding their entry-level hiring in Consumer Practices. CFPB Enforcement hires one or two a year straight out of law school, and they're the best of the best. If your goal is firm, go CFPB - firms are really interested in people with any experiences because it's so new.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
That's actually quite a bit for one year.Anonymous User wrote:Look like the CFPB only brought 24 admin and 5 fed actions this year. I'm not sure about the FTC, but that should say something about how active they are.Anonymous User wrote:Check out their entry-level hiring, if your goal is eventually to get in at one of them. I know FTC Bureau of Competition has a specialized hiring program for law students, but I haven't heard of anything regarding their entry-level hiring in Consumer Practices. CFPB Enforcement hires one or two a year straight out of law school, and they're the best of the best. If your goal is firm, go CFPB - firms are really interested in people with any experiences because it's so new.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
In the same period FTC brought 16 admin and 44 fed actions, soooozot1 wrote:That's actually quite a bit for one year.Anonymous User wrote:Look like the CFPB only brought 24 admin and 5 fed actions this year. I'm not sure about the FTC, but that should say something about how active they are.Anonymous User wrote:Check out their entry-level hiring, if your goal is eventually to get in at one of them. I know FTC Bureau of Competition has a specialized hiring program for law students, but I haven't heard of anything regarding their entry-level hiring in Consumer Practices. CFPB Enforcement hires one or two a year straight out of law school, and they're the best of the best. If your goal is firm, go CFPB - firms are really interested in people with any experiences because it's so new.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
Oh my god! No way! Lol.Anonymous User wrote:In the same period FTC brought 16 admin and 44 fed actions, soooozot1 wrote:That's actually quite a bit for one year.Anonymous User wrote:Look like the CFPB only brought 24 admin and 5 fed actions this year. I'm not sure about the FTC, but that should say something about how active they are.Anonymous User wrote:Check out their entry-level hiring, if your goal is eventually to get in at one of them. I know FTC Bureau of Competition has a specialized hiring program for law students, but I haven't heard of anything regarding their entry-level hiring in Consumer Practices. CFPB Enforcement hires one or two a year straight out of law school, and they're the best of the best. If your goal is firm, go CFPB - firms are really interested in people with any experiences because it's so new.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
I mean, laugh all you want. I'm just saying. The question was about litigation experience and there's no doubt the FTC does more fed work.zot1 wrote:Oh my god! No way! Lol.Anonymous User wrote:In the same period FTC brought 16 admin and 44 fed actions, soooozot1 wrote:That's actually quite a bit for one year.Anonymous User wrote:Look like the CFPB only brought 24 admin and 5 fed actions this year. I'm not sure about the FTC, but that should say something about how active they are.Anonymous User wrote:Check out their entry-level hiring, if your goal is eventually to get in at one of them. I know FTC Bureau of Competition has a specialized hiring program for law students, but I haven't heard of anything regarding their entry-level hiring in Consumer Practices. CFPB Enforcement hires one or two a year straight out of law school, and they're the best of the best. If your goal is firm, go CFPB - firms are really interested in people with any experiences because it's so new.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
Number of actions is also a function of number of attorneys. If the FTC has more attorneys the number of actions they bring doesn't mean any one attorney necessarily gets more experience.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
Hi, did you get an offer for the legal honors/pathways FTC program?
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
I interviewed with the FTC and they made it seem like litigation was minimal.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
Technically they're on the Fed Reserve scale, with Fed Reserve retirement benefits, which tend to be better than SEC.Nebby wrote:CFPB, most definitely. Plus, if you can hustle and get a job offer, they are paid on the SEC scale (!!!) instead of the GS scale
Also, CFPB is made up of 4 divisions (if I remember correctly), one of those (I think enforcement) is where the majority of litigation occurs
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
Yeah you should go to the FTC after tonight.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
It depends entirely on the division. In antitrust it's minimal but in consumer protection there's actually a good amount, especially in the regional offices.Anonymous User wrote:I interviewed with the FTC and they made it seem like litigation was minimal.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
^This. Plus, as someone who works for a Financial regulator, I don't really see a difference between administrative lit and fed courts lit. The investigation side is the same --- docs + depos. On the lit side, the motions practice is similar, and basically its the difference between a bench trial and a jury trial at the end of the day.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Number of actions is also a function of number of attorneys. If the FTC has more attorneys the number of actions they bring doesn't mean any one attorney necessarily gets more experience.
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Re: FTC vs. CFPB?
Honestly, I don't know why you'd want to go to a firm. Usually, people at a firm are trying to get into an enforcement position. In any event, what really matters is the experience you get at an agency. Develop an interesting portfolio and area of expertise, and you'll be marketable to a firm, regardless of which agency you choose.Anonymous User wrote:Check out their entry-level hiring, if your goal is eventually to get in at one of them. I know FTC Bureau of Competition has a specialized hiring program for law students, but I haven't heard of anything regarding their entry-level hiring in Consumer Practices. CFPB Enforcement hires one or two a year straight out of law school, and they're the best of the best. If your goal is firm, go CFPB - firms are really interested in people with any experiences because it's so new.
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