nealric wrote:Burlington4174 wrote:nealric wrote:Burlington4174 wrote:Desert Fox wrote:Because it's not really worth it. You don't feel rich because you aren't. 180k maybe lower upper middle class in NYC. You can't even afford a two bedroom apartment within a 30 min walk to work. Most of the country would laugh at that.
Ughhhhhh. You do realize that NYC is more than just Manhattan; right?
NYC big law is. And the non-Manhattan areas without a long commute are almost as expensive. I can't imagine being a first-year with the hour and a half commute many NYC workers suffer through to get affordable housing. Your performance would suffer if you aren't superman.
There are parts of Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, and Upper Manhattan that are all well within an hour and significantly cheaper.
I lived in Brooklyn for part of my time in NYC biglaw. The cheap parts of Brooklyn are a hike. May depend on where your firm is (i.e. Midtown vs Downtown), but it's unlikely you are going to get a truly quick commute from a cheap part of the boroughs. And most people grossly underestimate their commutes when they quote this kind of thing. Yeah, it's 30 minutes... if you run to the subway and the train pulls up precisely as you arrive, and there are no delays or other complications. In the real world, when you have an important morning meeting and the train is delayed and you have no easy alternatives to get to the office, you are going to be hating your life.
I have lived in lower Manhattan, upper Manhattan, and Brooklyn. Most of my friends live in Bushwick and Crown Heights. There are places available within a reasonable commute of midtown that will not break the bank.
Now with the L shutting down, that is going to be less true... Still, there will be some decent options for living in Brookyln if you are working in the Financial District.