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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:39 pm

Anyone have any experience with Latham 3L hiring?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:41 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Covington ding this morning


City? Was it a Symplicity posting or a mass-mail?


New York through mass mail

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:31 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:You won't be viewed the same. Firms know Fed gov usually doesn't hire out of law school, so they won't hold it against you. So, do not mention this in your cover letter.


The bolded was not my experience. It's probably true that firms do not view "strike outs" the same as "no offers." However, every firm I interviewed with asked me why I chose to work at an agency over the summer instead of a firm (and in some cases, grilled me on that "choice"). So you need to have a strong answer for that question during the interview, if applicable.


I think you're misunderstanding what I was saying. I didn't say that firms view "strikeouts" the same as people who had SAs. Rather, I was saying that firms don't view people who didn't receive a permanent offer from their 2L government job (i.e. strikeouts) the same as people who did an SA and got no-offered.

In fact, right below that post I said this:

Had a Biglaw SA & got offer ("pre-vetted") >>>>>>>>>> No Biglaw SA ("question mark") >>>>>>>>> Had Biglaw SA but got no-offered ("red flag")


Firms will definitely ask why you worked in gov 2L summer and will probably view you less favorably than someone who did an SA at a different firm and got a return offer.

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:39 pm

Firms will definitely ask why you worked in gov 2L summer and will probably view you less favorably than someone who did an SA at a different firm and got a return offer.


So how do you suggest strikeouts answer the question of why they didn't do a 2LSA besides the obvious "because I struck out"?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:01 pm

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Firms will definitely ask why you worked in gov 2L summer and will probably view you less favorably than someone who did an SA at a different firm and got a return offer.


So how do you suggest strikeouts answer the question of why they didn't do a 2LSA besides the obvious "because I struck out"?


Make the conversation about something that's changed since 2L OCI. If you're pitching yourself to a specific practice group: "I didn't know much about [X practice area] last year, but then I [took Y class/clinic during 2L, did Z during 2L summer] and found out how much I enjoy it."

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:30 am

Anyone heard from Kirkland or Skadden?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:42 am

SullCrom Palo Alto - which practice area are they hiring for 3L?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:04 pm

Does anyone know if Sidley is hiring?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 02, 2016 5:17 pm

Anyone interview with Quinn yet?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:32 am

Any advice on how to discuss with a biglaw firm you summered at (and received an offer from) why you haven't yet accepted their offer?

Does explaining that you are only applying to one other firm as a 3L soften the blow to the SA firm, or is it better not to be so explicit?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:32 am

Bump. Any news?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:51 pm

Skadden NYC interview later this week

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby PPL » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Skadden NYC interview later this week

Your stats/school? Did you MM?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:51 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Skadden NYC interview later this week

Your stats/school? Did you MM?


Applied through Symplicity, also emailed a partner alum (unclear if said person forwarded my docs though).

CCN, around top 1/3.

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:40 pm

Which practice group in Skadden NYC?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:57 pm

Debevoise NY and Kirkland Houston dings

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

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Anonymous User wrote:Applied through Symplicity, also emailed a partner alum (unclear if said person forwarded my docs though).

CCN, around top 1/3.


Did you know the partner beforehand and butter him up with the song & dance routine ("just want 'advice,' that's all"), or did you cold email him and in that very first email cut to the chase by attaching your materials and noting that HR should also have a copy as a way to tell the partner that you're interested in a job there?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:08 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Applied through Symplicity, also emailed a partner alum (unclear if said person forwarded my docs though).

CCN, around top 1/3.


Did you know the partner beforehand and butter him up with the song & dance routine ("just want 'advice,' that's all"), or did you cold email him and in that very first email cut to the chase by attaching your materials and noting that HR should also have a copy as a way to tell the partner that you're interested in a job there?


Cold email.

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:41 am

Kirkland CB yesterday afternoon. Offer first thing this morning.

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:48 am

Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland CB yesterday afternoon. Offer first thing this morning.


Congrats! Which office, if you don't mind?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:50 am

Has anyone else heard anything from Kirkland Chicago? Waiting on cb or ding from them before accepting my 2L SA offer...

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:54 am

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone else heard anything from Kirkland Chicago? Waiting on cb or ding from them before accepting my 2L SA offer...


Not sure if you're the same anon, but I had Kirkland CB yesterday, offer first thing this morning.

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:55 am

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Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland CB yesterday afternoon. Offer first thing this morning.


Congrats! Which office, if you don't mind?


Chicago. In case it's helpful, here are my stats: MVP, approx. top 15%, secondary journal.

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:00 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone else heard anything from Kirkland Chicago? Waiting on cb or ding from them before accepting my 2L SA offer...


Not sure if you're the same anon, but I had Kirkland CB yesterday, offer first thing this morning.

When did you hear from them about scheduling your callback?

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Re: 3L OCI Thread.

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:05 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone else heard anything from Kirkland Chicago? Waiting on cb or ding from them before accepting my 2L SA offer...


Not sure if you're the same anon, but I had Kirkland CB yesterday, offer first thing this morning.

When did you hear from them about scheduling your callback?


Sent my resume through Symplicity (I believe deadline was July 21). They initially reached out on August 3rd, scheduled callback for yesterday. There were both 2L and 3L candidates there yesterday.



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