Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

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Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:22 pm

answered. thank you.
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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:41 pm

I don't think there's any way to put something like this in a cover letter without sounding defensive or like you're making excuses. Face it, if the employer cares about grades and has a problem with median, you're not going to convince them to think otherwise with a few lines in a cover letter. If they are more interested in what you've done and the good experience you can bring (which is what you want), there is no point in wasting the limited space in a cover letter defending your grades when that's not what the employer cares about.

But I am of the school of thought that you should only play up your positives in job application materials, and let the employer raise their concerns about anything specific if they interview you. Don't raise your own negatives, just be ready to respond if someone else does.

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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby reasonable_man » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:52 pm

No. Don't do that. It won't work right in a cover letter.

Focus on your experience and also on your interest in the particular firm and/or practice area. Keep it short. 2 Sentence Into. Two body paragraphs of about 3 to 4 sentences each (at most). Short conclusion paragraph. Done. First body paragraph - highlight some relevant experience. Second body paragraph - talk about the firm and how interested you are. Target firms that do well with diversity. Their are all sorts of rankings for this out there. Make those firms a priority.

Good luck. I am white as white can be, but came from a family with zero money and objectively lousy (and absent) parents. I worked part-time all through college and law school. It sucks - but it builds character and at the end of the day, your success will be your own and that's something you can be proud of.

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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:12 pm

I really appreciate the advice. My understanding then, is that I would only bring this heavy stuff into convo if and when they interview me and ask about my grades?

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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby kcdc1 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:53 pm

Q: Your grades are a bit below our target for this position. Do you feel that your grades accurately reflect your academic and legal skills?

A: I think my experience this past year is more reflective of my skills as an attorney. [[Cite experience.]] As to my grades, I do hope there will be some flexibility on this point. I would also note that I worked part-time to support myself through school, whereas I've been able to focus my time more fully during my professional experience.


I'm honestly not even sure I'd go this far (everyone's got their excuse), but at least if you frame it this way, it's an argument for why your professional experience should be considered more relevant than your law school GPA.

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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby reasonable_man » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:24 pm

kcdc1 wrote:Q: Your grades are a bit below our target for this position. Do you feel that your grades accurately reflect your academic and legal skills?

A: I think my experience this past year is more reflective of my skills as an attorney. [[Cite experience.]] As to my grades, I do hope there will be some flexibility on this point. I would also note that I worked part-time to support myself through school, whereas I've been able to focus my time more fully during my professional experience.


I'm honestly not even sure I'd go this far (everyone's got their excuse), but at least if you frame it this way, it's an argument for why your professional experience should be considered more relevant than your law school GPA.


Agreed. This far, no further.

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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:59 pm

Interview coach, hmm... Is that expensive? Even so, if I land a dream job as a result, it would be worth pretty much any cost.

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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:01 pm

pretty mindblowing that people can afford to hire a coach just for interviews.

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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:pretty mindblowing that people can afford to hire a coach just for interviews.


yea but to be fair if i thought that a coach would help put me over the edge into a top big law firm job, the return on investment would be astronomical. i probably wouldnt spend $2,500 on it but i would definitely invest $500+. its so short-sighted to brush it off for being expensive, especially after dropping 200k on the law school education!!

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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby michmk29 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:10 pm

Mod edit: SPAMMER POST

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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:10 pm

All references to interview coaches are from the same spammer shilling for their company, so I would safely ignore them.

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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby reasonable_man » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:21 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:All references to interview coaches are from the same spammer shilling for their company, so I would safely ignore them.


Pathetic.

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Re: Cover Letter - how personal can you get?

Postby loh » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:01 pm

reasonable_man wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:All references to interview coaches are from the same spammer shilling for their company, so I would safely ignore them.


Pathetic.


do they have no shame? their company is shit now if it wasn't already.



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