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Should I care more?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:41 pm

I am in my first year. I bill a reasonable amount of hours and turn in reasonably good work product, but I feel like I'm way overpaid for the amount of work I do. I don't want to work here for very long, so I'm not going out of my way to pick up work or slaving away on things to impress partners. Is it possible that I'll last a while like this? I have no debt and have saved a nice little nest egg already, so I don't feel incredibly concerned about losing my job. But should I be more concerned? In other words, is it going to be really difficult for me to find a new job if the higher-ups decide that I'm not worth keeping?

More generally, does anyone else here feel strangely lethargic about their careers? I did great in school and thought I would be at least somewhat devoted to my career, but I hate it and it's really hard to pretend I don't.

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby trumpotrumpo » Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I am in my first year. I bill a reasonable amount of hours and turn in reasonably good work product, but I feel like I'm way overpaid for the amount of work I do. I don't want to work here for very long, so I'm not going out of my way to pick up work or slaving away on things to impress partners. Is it possible that I'll last a while like this? I have no debt and have saved a nice little nest egg already, so I don't feel incredibly concerned about losing my job. But should I be more concerned? In other words, is it going to be really difficult for me to find a new job if the higher-ups decide that I'm not worth keeping?

More generally, does anyone else here feel strangely lethargic about their careers? I did great in school and thought I would be at least somewhat devoted to my career, but I hate it and it's really hard to pretend I don't.


No, you shouldn't care. From the information you've provided us, you are most certainly an asshole, but I agree there's no point in caring.

If you're making big law money with no debt, I'd save up for 3-5 years and buy a nice reasonably priced condo (or two) in the city you live in. Then I'd probably get out of law, or worst case lateral to a midsize firm where everyone is so impressed by your "credentials" that they don't realize you're checked the fuck out.

You have it better than 99.9999% of lawyers, so "not caring" and being "strangely lethargic" is certainly no reason to panic or solicit the advice of a slew of anonymous internet neckbeards.

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby tyroneslothrop1 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:01 pm

I'm not really sure why OP's post makes him or her an asshole. Conventional wisdom is that many people in big law find the work to some combination of boring, stressful, and ultimately pointless. I lack the experience to say whether you can coast for several years.

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby favabeansoup » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:02 pm

What do you want to do with your career? Go to another firm, in house, or just leave law altogether? Sounds like you need to set more personal/career goals for yourself. If you have nothing to work for it is easy to feel lethargic about anything and just get lost in the day to day.

I'm a still a junior too, but I know I'm going to want to try to go in house in a few years and not even try for partner. I don't care terribly much about the work I'm doing, but I still put in my best effort into it when I can. Careers are long and I've heard so many stories from people about how much making good impressions on people matter. You don't know who might be giving you a job later, or calling someone on your behalf, or where people end up, even if you have no intention of staying with the firm you are in now. So I care in that sense of keeping good relationships, and that means doing the best I can to impress them. The actual "work" not so much.

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby trumpotrumpo » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:10 pm

tyroneslothrop1 wrote:I'm not really sure why OP's post makes him or her an asshole. Conventional wisdom is that many people in big law find the work to some combination of boring, stressful, and ultimately pointless. I lack the experience to say whether you can coast for several years.


OP is an asshole because he's clutching a Virginia ham in his paws, crying the blues because he's got no bread.

Is 160k a year salary with zero debt not good enough? Going into biglaw, did he really feel like his research memos on "legal issues" would result in an Atticus Finch level of satisfaction and liberal do-goodery? What did he expect? You do biglaw for the money - sometimes for prestige, yes, but mostly for the money. You don't do it to feel satisfied, happy, or like you're making the world a better place.

Oh, and he has a nest egg and did great in school too, in case you were wondering.

OP is an asshole. He probably knows it too. There are plenty of 'em out there, so I'm not too too bent out of shape about it, I'm just kind of surprised you needed me to elaborate on the issue.

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby bwh8813 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:49 pm

trumpotrumpo wrote:
tyroneslothrop1 wrote:I'm not really sure why OP's post makes him or her an asshole. Conventional wisdom is that many people in big law find the work to some combination of boring, stressful, and ultimately pointless. I lack the experience to say whether you can coast for several years.


OP is an asshole because he's clutching a Virginia ham in his paws, crying the blues because he's got no bread.

Is 160k a year salary with zero debt not good enough? Going into biglaw, did he really feel like his research memos on "legal issues" would result in an Atticus Finch level of satisfaction and liberal do-goodery? What did he expect? You do biglaw for the money - sometimes for prestige, yes, but mostly for the money. You don't do it to feel satisfied, happy, or like you're making the world a better place.

Oh, and he has a nest egg and did great in school too, in case you were wondering.

OP is an asshole. He probably knows it too. There are plenty of 'em out there, so I'm not too too bent out of shape about it, I'm just kind of surprised you needed me to elaborate on the issue.


Nah, you're the asshole. OP is too insecure to be an asshole.

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby trumpotrumpo » Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:59 pm

bwh8813 wrote:
trumpotrumpo wrote:
tyroneslothrop1 wrote:I'm not really sure why OP's post makes him or her an asshole. Conventional wisdom is that many people in big law find the work to some combination of boring, stressful, and ultimately pointless. I lack the experience to say whether you can coast for several years.


OP is an asshole because he's clutching a Virginia ham in his paws, crying the blues because he's got no bread.

Is 160k a year salary with zero debt not good enough? Going into biglaw, did he really feel like his research memos on "legal issues" would result in an Atticus Finch level of satisfaction and liberal do-goodery? What did he expect? You do biglaw for the money - sometimes for prestige, yes, but mostly for the money. You don't do it to feel satisfied, happy, or like you're making the world a better place.

Oh, and he has a nest egg and did great in school too, in case you were wondering.

OP is an asshole. He probably knows it too. There are plenty of 'em out there, so I'm not too too bent out of shape about it, I'm just kind of surprised you needed me to elaborate on the issue.


Nah, you're the asshole. OP is too insecure to be an asshole.


You're an asshole for calling me the asshole, asshole.

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby Traynor Brah » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:24 pm

trumpotrumpo wrote:
tyroneslothrop1 wrote:I'm not really sure why OP's post makes him or her an asshole. Conventional wisdom is that many people in big law find the work to some combination of boring, stressful, and ultimately pointless. I lack the experience to say whether you can coast for several years.


OP is an asshole because he's clutching a Virginia ham in his paws, crying the blues because he's got no bread.

Is 160k a year salary with zero debt not good enough? Going into biglaw, did he really feel like his research memos on "legal issues" would result in an Atticus Finch level of satisfaction and liberal do-goodery? What did he expect? You do biglaw for the money - sometimes for prestige, yes, but mostly for the money. You don't do it to feel satisfied, happy, or like you're making the world a better place.

Oh, and he has a nest egg and did great in school too, in case you were wondering.

OP is an asshole. He probably knows it too. There are plenty of 'em out there, so I'm not too too bent out of shape about it, I'm just kind of surprised you needed me to elaborate on the issue.

No, as noted above, you're the only one being an asshole itt.

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby BizBro » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:30 pm

Traynor Brah wrote:
trumpotrumpo wrote:
tyroneslothrop1 wrote:I'm not really sure why OP's post makes him or her an asshole. Conventional wisdom is that many people in big law find the work to some combination of boring, stressful, and ultimately pointless. I lack the experience to say whether you can coast for several years.


OP is an asshole because he's clutching a Virginia ham in his paws, crying the blues because he's got no bread.

Is 160k a year salary with zero debt not good enough? Going into biglaw, did he really feel like his research memos on "legal issues" would result in an Atticus Finch level of satisfaction and liberal do-goodery? What did he expect? You do biglaw for the money - sometimes for prestige, yes, but mostly for the money. You don't do it to feel satisfied, happy, or like you're making the world a better place.

Oh, and he has a nest egg and did great in school too, in case you were wondering.

OP is an asshole. He probably knows it too. There are plenty of 'em out there, so I'm not too too bent out of shape about it, I'm just kind of surprised you needed me to elaborate on the issue.

No, as noted above, you're the only one being an asshole itt.


Yea trumpo trumpo just sounds jealous af. Can anyone else chime in on how long OP can coast before getting pushed out?

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby trumpotrumpo » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:37 pm

BizBro wrote:
Traynor Brah wrote:
trumpotrumpo wrote:
tyroneslothrop1 wrote:I'm not really sure why OP's post makes him or her an asshole. Conventional wisdom is that many people in big law find the work to some combination of boring, stressful, and ultimately pointless. I lack the experience to say whether you can coast for several years.


OP is an asshole because he's clutching a Virginia ham in his paws, crying the blues because he's got no bread.

Is 160k a year salary with zero debt not good enough? Going into biglaw, did he really feel like his research memos on "legal issues" would result in an Atticus Finch level of satisfaction and liberal do-goodery? What did he expect? You do biglaw for the money - sometimes for prestige, yes, but mostly for the money. You don't do it to feel satisfied, happy, or like you're making the world a better place.

Oh, and he has a nest egg and did great in school too, in case you were wondering.

OP is an asshole. He probably knows it too. There are plenty of 'em out there, so I'm not too too bent out of shape about it, I'm just kind of surprised you needed me to elaborate on the issue.

No, as noted above, you're the only one being an asshole itt.


Yea trumpo trumpo just sounds jealous af. Can anyone else chime in on how long OP can coast before getting pushed out?


Look at this big swingin' dick in the cracker factory

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby rawrpalooza » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:41 pm

trumpotrumpo wrote:
BizBro wrote:
Traynor Brah wrote:
trumpotrumpo wrote:
tyroneslothrop1 wrote:I'm not really sure why OP's post makes him or her an asshole. Conventional wisdom is that many people in big law find the work to some combination of boring, stressful, and ultimately pointless. I lack the experience to say whether you can coast for several years.


OP is an asshole because he's clutching a Virginia ham in his paws, crying the blues because he's got no bread.

Is 160k a year salary with zero debt not good enough? Going into biglaw, did he really feel like his research memos on "legal issues" would result in an Atticus Finch level of satisfaction and liberal do-goodery? What did he expect? You do biglaw for the money - sometimes for prestige, yes, but mostly for the money. You don't do it to feel satisfied, happy, or like you're making the world a better place.

Oh, and he has a nest egg and did great in school too, in case you were wondering.

OP is an asshole. He probably knows it too. There are plenty of 'em out there, so I'm not too too bent out of shape about it, I'm just kind of surprised you needed me to elaborate on the issue.

No, as noted above, you're the only one being an asshole itt.


Yea trumpo trumpo just sounds jealous af. Can anyone else chime in on how long OP can coast before getting pushed out?


Look at this big swingin' dick in the cracker factory


trumpotrumpo, you are amazing. Keep doing what you're doing and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby BizBro » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:44 pm

trumpotrumpo wrote:
BizBro wrote:
Traynor Brah wrote:
trumpotrumpo wrote:
tyroneslothrop1 wrote:I'm not really sure why OP's post makes him or her an asshole. Conventional wisdom is that many people in big law find the work to some combination of boring, stressful, and ultimately pointless. I lack the experience to say whether you can coast for several years.


OP is an asshole because he's clutching a Virginia ham in his paws, crying the blues because he's got no bread.

Is 160k a year salary with zero debt not good enough? Going into biglaw, did he really feel like his research memos on "legal issues" would result in an Atticus Finch level of satisfaction and liberal do-goodery? What did he expect? You do biglaw for the money - sometimes for prestige, yes, but mostly for the money. You don't do it to feel satisfied, happy, or like you're making the world a better place.

Oh, and he has a nest egg and did great in school too, in case you were wondering.

OP is an asshole. He probably knows it too. There are plenty of 'em out there, so I'm not too too bent out of shape about it, I'm just kind of surprised you needed me to elaborate on the issue.

No, as noted above, you're the only one being an asshole itt.


Yea trumpo trumpo just sounds jealous af. Can anyone else chime in on how long OP can coast before getting pushed out?


Look at this big swingin' dick in the cracker factory


Lol don't be mad because OP learned how to play the law school game right and can chill and earn that 180k debt free. Op keep doing you. I would save up as much as I can. I'm also curious how hard it will be for OP to find a new job when he gets pushed out. OP you will probably get warning signs at reviews etc when the time is nearing, and should then blast out resumes.

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Re: Should I care more?

Postby BNA » Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:48 pm

trumpotrumpo wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I am in my first year. I bill a reasonable amount of hours and turn in reasonably good work product, but I feel like I'm way overpaid for the amount of work I do. I don't want to work here for very long, so I'm not going out of my way to pick up work or slaving away on things to impress partners. Is it possible that I'll last a while like this? I have no debt and have saved a nice little nest egg already, so I don't feel incredibly concerned about losing my job. But should I be more concerned? In other words, is it going to be really difficult for me to find a new job if the higher-ups decide that I'm not worth keeping?

More generally, does anyone else here feel strangely lethargic about their careers? I did great in school and thought I would be at least somewhat devoted to my career, but I hate it and it's really hard to pretend I don't.


No, you shouldn't care. From the information you've provided us, you are most certainly an asshole, but I agree there's no point in caring.

If you're making big law money with no debt, I'd save up for 3-5 years and buy a nice reasonably priced condo (or two) in the city you live in. Then I'd probably get out of law, or worst case lateral to a midsize firm where everyone is so impressed by your "credentials" that they don't realize you're checked the fuck out.

You have it better than 99.9999% of lawyers, so "not caring" and being "strangely lethargic" is certainly no reason to panic or solicit the advice of a slew of anonymous internet neckbeards.



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Re: Should I care more?

Postby LaLiLuLeLo » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:39 pm

Takes one to know one :lol:



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