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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:20 am

Dang it, I swore to myself that I wouldn't let myself get sucked into obsessing over this thread...

Congrats to everyone with early screeners/CBs/offers!

Received DPW NY callback. No screener. Some networking. T14.

I understand the CB —> offer rate for DPW is usually pretty low. :( Does anyone know (or care to speculate) if the pre-OCI stats are consistent with the 20–23% figure I've seen floating around?

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:32 am

Anonymous User wrote:Dang it, I swore to myself that I wouldn't let myself get sucked into obsessing over this thread...

Congrats to everyone with early screeners/CBs/offers!

Received DPW NY callback. No screener. Some networking. T14.

I understand the CB —> offer rate for DPW is usually pretty low. :( Does anyone know (or care to speculate) if the pre-OCI stats are consistent with the 20–23% figure I've seen floating around?


When your T14 counselor says ''lots of NY firms began giving out offers in June and early July.......'' aka telling you ''NY is dry for OCI''.

We're fucked.

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:20 am

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Anonymous User wrote:MMed a firm - Firm asked if I would be willing to come in (on my own dime) for an "informational visit" to meet an attorney - what does that usually entail


Does the firm start with an L?


I received a similar email this week from a firm starting with a W. Though based on how the email was framed, I don't think it's an interview (hope I'm wrong).


Why are you guys being so secretive...lol.


Haha, you're right. It's White Case. I have no idea whether it's a screener or not and whether I should still bid them during OCI. I probably need to use one of my top 5 bids to get a screener... Anyone who has done an informational visit with them? How formal was it? Did it turn into a CB?

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:00 am

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Anonymous User wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:MMed a firm - Firm asked if I would be willing to come in (on my own dime) for an "informational visit" to meet an attorney - what does that usually entail


Does the firm start with an L?


I received a similar email this week from a firm starting with a W. Though based on how the email was framed, I don't think it's an interview (hope I'm wrong).


Why are you guys being so secretive...lol.


Haha, you're right. It's White Case. I have no idea whether it's a screener or not and whether I should still bid them during OCI. I probably need to use one of my top 5 bids to get a screener... Anyone who has done an informational visit with them? How formal was it? Did it turn into a CB?


Slightly different but I reached out to W&C (not saying which market, sorry) for an info interview right after I got my grades (didn't knock spring 1L out of the park) and they set up a meeting right away. I'd been told by my CSO to expect the possibility of a screener and it definitely was. Be prepared. The attorney had my resume and took tons of notes on it, but he was also quick to really sell how great W&C is over its peers. No CB yet but the recruiter said she looked forward to seeing me during OCI. Could be a blow off but I'll be optimistic until I know for sure, haha.

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:05 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Dang it, I swore to myself that I wouldn't let myself get sucked into obsessing over this thread...

Congrats to everyone with early screeners/CBs/offers!

Received DPW NY callback. No screener. Some networking. T14.

I understand the CB —> offer rate for DPW is usually pretty low. :( Does anyone know (or care to speculate) if the pre-OCI stats are consistent with the 20–23% figure I've seen floating around?


When your T14 counselor says ''lots of NY firms began giving out offers in June and early July.......'' aka telling you ''NY is dry for OCI''.

We're fucked.


How does "lots of NY firms began giving out offers" = NY is "dry" for OCI? Also, counselors at my T14 are likely just as ill-informed as counselors at yours. I wouldn't be surprised if they're telling you that based on this thread.

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby chingwoo » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:50 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Dang it, I swore to myself that I wouldn't let myself get sucked into obsessing over this thread...

Congrats to everyone with early screeners/CBs/offers!

Received DPW NY callback. No screener. Some networking. T14.

I understand the CB —> offer rate for DPW is usually pretty low. :( Does anyone know (or care to speculate) if the pre-OCI stats are consistent with the 20–23% figure I've seen floating around?


When your T14 counselor says ''lots of NY firms began giving out offers in June and early July.......'' aka telling you ''NY is dry for OCI''.

We're fucked.


How does "lots of NY firms began giving out offers" = NY is "dry" for OCI? Also, counselors at my T14 are likely just as ill-informed as counselors at yours. I wouldn't be surprised if they're telling you that based on this thread.


Because more early offers means less offers to give come oci to hit the firms normal conversion ratios. For example if I need to hit 50 offers to get 15 summers and I already gave 30 pre summer, there's only 20 left.

This is also could be bad for people below median because more qualified candidates can take more callbacks because the cycle is more spread out.

On the flipside potentially less competition at oci if someone already had a dpw offer, then maybe they won't take half of their Oci slots.

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:59 am

chingwoo wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Dang it, I swore to myself that I wouldn't let myself get sucked into obsessing over this thread...

Congrats to everyone with early screeners/CBs/offers!

Received DPW NY callback. No screener. Some networking. T14.

I understand the CB —> offer rate for DPW is usually pretty low. :( Does anyone know (or care to speculate) if the pre-OCI stats are consistent with the 20–23% figure I've seen floating around?


When your T14 counselor says ''lots of NY firms began giving out offers in June and early July.......'' aka telling you ''NY is dry for OCI''.

We're fucked.


How does "lots of NY firms began giving out offers" = NY is "dry" for OCI? Also, counselors at my T14 are likely just as ill-informed as counselors at yours. I wouldn't be surprised if they're telling you that based on this thread.


Because more early offers means less offers to give come oci to hit the firms normal conversion ratios. For example if I need to hit 50 offers to get 15 summers and I already gave 30 pre summer, there's only 20 left.

This is also could be bad for people below median because more qualified candidates can take more callbacks because the cycle is more spread out.

On the flipside potentially less competition at oci if someone already had a dpw offer, then maybe they won't take half of their Oci slots.


Yeah, but my point is that you and I have no way of knowing that based on this thread. People should absolutely massmail and try to get pre-OCI interviews, but to say NY is "dry" based on the information in this thread (which has been false in past years/threads) assumes a lot.

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:03 am

Has anyone gotten a secondary market screener/CB?

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:11 am

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone gotten a secondary market screener/CB?


I'm finishing up an SA with Jones Day in a secondary market and they have done a few callbacks so far. It's one of the Pittsburgh/Cleveland/Columbus offices.

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby MurdockLLP » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:11 am

Anonymous User wrote:
chingwoo wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Dang it, I swore to myself that I wouldn't let myself get sucked into obsessing over this thread...

Congrats to everyone with early screeners/CBs/offers!

Received DPW NY callback. No screener. Some networking. T14.

I understand the CB —> offer rate for DPW is usually pretty low. :( Does anyone know (or care to speculate) if the pre-OCI stats are consistent with the 20–23% figure I've seen floating around?


When your T14 counselor says ''lots of NY firms began giving out offers in June and early July.......'' aka telling you ''NY is dry for OCI''.

We're fucked.


How does "lots of NY firms began giving out offers" = NY is "dry" for OCI? Also, counselors at my T14 are likely just as ill-informed as counselors at yours. I wouldn't be surprised if they're telling you that based on this thread.


Because more early offers means less offers to give come oci to hit the firms normal conversion ratios. For example if I need to hit 50 offers to get 15 summers and I already gave 30 pre summer, there's only 20 left.

This is also could be bad for people below median because more qualified candidates can take more callbacks because the cycle is more spread out.

On the flipside potentially less competition at oci if someone already had a dpw offer, then maybe they won't take half of their Oci slots.


Yeah, but my point is that you and I have no way of knowing that based on this thread. People should absolutely massmail and try to get pre-OCI interviews, but to say NY is "dry" based on the information in this thread (which has been false in past years/threads) assumes a lot.


Yes - the amount of firms that have given Pre-OCI offers is incredibly small (>10). There's no way its "dry."

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:25 am

Hi all,

Any offers from S&C (after a pre-OCI CB)?

Thanks!

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:18 am

Anonymous User wrote:Hi all,

Any offers from S&C (after a pre-OCI CB)?

Thanks!


yes. their hiring partners meet daily, so they turn offers around within 24 hrs.

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:23 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hi all,

Any offers from S&C (after a pre-OCI CB)?

Thanks!


yes. their hiring partners meet daily, so they turn offers around within 24 hrs.



Thanks!
They meet daily even before OCI period?
Do you know about an offer extended for pre-OCI 2016?

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:40 am

Anonymous User wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:Hi all,

Any offers from S&C (after a pre-OCI CB)?

Thanks!


yes. their hiring partners meet daily, so they turn offers around within 24 hrs.



Thanks!
They meet daily even before OCI period?
Do you know about an offer extended for pre-OCI 2016?


yes and yes

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:42 am

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Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone gotten a secondary market screener/CB?


I'm finishing up an SA with Jones Day in a secondary market and they have done a few callbacks so far. It's one of the Pittsburgh/Cleveland/Columbus offices.


I did a screener with JD in a secondary this week, any idea how long between screener and notification of CB?

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Hi all,

Any offers from S&C (after a pre-OCI CB)?

Thanks!


yes. their hiring partners meet daily, so they turn offers around within 24 hrs.



Thanks!
They meet daily even before OCI period?
Do you know about an offer extended for pre-OCI 2016?


yes and yes


Disappointed to hear that, but thanks!
For future generations it should be noted that (as far as I was told) they stopped their practice of on-the-spot offers...

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:22 pm

anyone know how often the hiring partners of most DC firms meet? My guess would be weekly - is my intuition right?

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:08 pm

Had a CB at PW last wednesday, and haven't heard anything. The last interviewer showed me out and he nor any of the recruiters told me when I should expect to hear anything from them or what their general timeframe is for pre-OCI interviews. Is this normal or should I be expecting a ding in the near future?

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:54 pm

Skadden NY callback. 24 hour turnaround from screener.

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Had a CB at PW last wednesday, and haven't heard anything. The last interviewer showed me out and he nor any of the recruiters told me when I should expect to hear anything from them or what their general timeframe is for pre-OCI interviews. Is this normal or should I be expecting a ding in the near future?


P,W told me they would be making decisions next week

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:11 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Had a CB at PW last wednesday, and haven't heard anything. The last interviewer showed me out and he nor any of the recruiters told me when I should expect to hear anything from them or what their general timeframe is for pre-OCI interviews. Is this normal or should I be expecting a ding in the near future?


P,W told me they would be making decisions next week



Awesome, thank you! Won't get too discouraged then until next week

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:29 pm

Davis Polk NY offer. 24 hours from CB->offer

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Davis Polk NY offer. 24 hours from CB->offer


Congrats! And is 24 hour turnaround normal? Is this only for NY firms or unique to Davis Polk?

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:38 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:NY offices of K&E, Simpson and Skadden have extended offers this week.

What is your source re: STB offers? Do you know how many days between CB --> offer was?


I had a CB on a Thursday and a phone call with an offer the following Tuesday evening.

How late in the evening? Sorry for being neurotic/annoying :?

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Re: 2016 Pre-OCI Interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:51 pm

both my STB and DPW offers took several days, close to a week in the latter case



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