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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby ur_hero » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:56 pm

Made a couple of substantive errors and omissions in a somewhat voluminous chart sent to the client....Caught the mistakes after sending, despite extensive proofreading. Terrible feeling.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:01 am

ur_hero wrote:Made a couple of substantive errors and omissions in a somewhat voluminous chart sent to the client....Caught the mistakes after sending, despite extensive proofreading. Terrible feeling.


better than the client catching the mistake and sending an email, CCing the partner asking what the error was all about. I spoke to the partner and he fell on the knife with the client, saying it was a carry-over from a prior template and sent a revised version. He took me out to lunch and said with stuff like this and given the time crunch we were under, issues like this were to be expected. That said, he told me to pay more attention and sometimes it's good to take a step back.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby ArtistOfManliness » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:31 am

Anonymous User wrote:
ur_hero wrote:Made a couple of substantive errors and omissions in a somewhat voluminous chart sent to the client....Caught the mistakes after sending, despite extensive proofreading. Terrible feeling.


better than the client catching the mistake and sending an email, CCing the partner asking what the error was all about. I spoke to the partner and he fell on the knife with the client, saying it was a carry-over from a prior template and sent a revised version. He took me out to lunch and said with stuff like this and given the time crunch we were under, issues like this were to be expected. That said, he told me to pay more attention and sometimes it's good to take a step back.


there's still time for the client to catch it... and send an e-mail...

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby El Pollito » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:35 am

they generally don't

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:02 am

i work for a big law screamer who makes all the assistants/clerks cry at least once. Can't even count how many staff and associates this partner cycled through. Obviously this partner's associates, including me, get screamed at, condescended to, and insulted on a regular basis.

Is there such thing as a "kind/nice partner"?

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Mr. Peanutbutter » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:16 am

Anonymous User wrote:i work for a big law screamer who makes all the assistants/clerks cry at least once. Can't even count how many staff and associates this partner cycled through. Obviously this partner's associates, including me, get screamed at, condescended to, and insulted on a regular basis.

Is there such thing as a "kind/nice partner"?

Yes and they are saints and seem to get the best work from people

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby El Pollito » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:25 pm

yeah my managing partner is really great and youngish and cool and runs our practice as a meritocracy. most partners are insane though.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby gk101 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:58 pm

El Pollito wrote:yeah my managing partner is really great and youngish and cool and runs our practice as a meritocracy. most partners are insane though.

yeah same. I've lucked out by working with some great partners at my current firm but I've also actively avoided the shitty ones. Helps that the main guy I work with is the managing partner for the office and other shitty partners don't really want to get in a pissing contest with him

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:07 pm

Nvm
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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby 5ky » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:36 pm

lol what a humblebrag

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby BigZuck » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:17 pm

5ky wrote:lol what a humblebrag

What'd it say?

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby LaLiLuLeLo » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:53 pm

BigZuck wrote:
5ky wrote:lol what a humblebrag

What'd it say?


Whether it was normal as a stubbie to run certain kinds of deals.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby 5ky » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:25 pm

whether it was "a good thing to be put in charge of running part of/a deal, as a stub year, even if it was pretty basic and uninteresting. but that they couldn't say more without outing.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Eldon Tyrell » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:42 pm

Would have loved to know what he means by "running the deal." He's likely just delusional about how important his responsibilities are.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Avian » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:08 am

Eldon Tyrell wrote:Would have loved to know what he means by "running the deal." He's likely just delusional about how important his responsibilities are.

Making closing binders and signature pages is where the real power is.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Mr. Peanutbutter » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:58 am

Relax mal and let them drink the koolaid

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:51 am

Avian wrote:
Eldon Tyrell wrote:Would have loved to know what he means by "running the deal." He's likely just delusional about how important his responsibilities are.

Making closing binders and signature pages is where the real power is.


this has been my task since starting; it's the worst. That said, running a deal is cool if you know what you're doing - source, I was a lower middle market IBanker doing M&A pre-law school.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Lacepiece23 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Avian wrote:
Eldon Tyrell wrote:Would have loved to know what he means by "running the deal." He's likely just delusional about how important his responsibilities are.

Making closing binders and signature pages is where the real power is.


this has been my task since starting; it's the worst. That said, running a deal is cool if you know what you're doing - source, I was a lower middle market IBanker doing M&A pre-law school.


Should have stuck with that.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby jbagelboy » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:12 pm

Lacepiece23 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Avian wrote:
Eldon Tyrell wrote:Would have loved to know what he means by "running the deal." He's likely just delusional about how important his responsibilities are.

Making closing binders and signature pages is where the real power is.


this has been my task since starting; it's the worst. That said, running a deal is cool if you know what you're doing - source, I was a lower middle market IBanker doing M&A pre-law school.


Should have stuck with that.


Srsly

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Danger Zone » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:18 pm

Avian wrote:
Eldon Tyrell wrote:Would have loved to know what he means by "running the deal." He's likely just delusional about how important his responsibilities are.

Making closing binders and signature pages is where the real power is.

How is this a task for attorneys, I ask myself everyday
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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby skers » Thu Dec 22, 2016 5:49 pm

I "ran" a super small deal early on. It had nothing to do with my abilities (which mostly consist of getting other attorneys on my deal teams to slowly start saying bro more) but because I happened to be in the office on a certain night and the partner could bill me out low. You either (i) have an inflated idea of your importance or (ii) are going to fuck a lot things up because you don't have any idea what you're doing and the people above you are out of touch enough to not realize what you should even know how to do. Please annoy the fuck out of your associate mentors to review and explain all the things you don't even know you're doing wrong (srs).

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:18 pm

Any other fellow f-ups want to share whether they got a bonus?

I got a small one and I'm happy about it. $1500 Tho I'm not sure what to compare it against?? I am more worried about how I'm doing and whether this is a good/bad reflection on my work.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:10 pm

I'm expecting 2/3 of the announced bonus bc the government needs money.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:21 pm

Two main partners work in my group.

First is a workaholic, who insists on blowing past billing hours and spending "free time" recruiting clients.

Second gets to the office at 6AM, leaves at 3PM, is very detail-oriented/anal (and efficient billing-wise as a machine), but generally low key in conversations and doesn't take his work home on weekends.

I've tried hard to get most of my assignments from the second one.

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Re: New associate fuck up thread (and tips for slacking)

Postby lawlorbust » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any other fellow f-ups want to share whether they got a bonus?

I got a small one and I'm happy about it. $1500 Tho I'm not sure what to compare it against?? I am more worried about how I'm doing and whether this is a good/bad reflection on my work.


Biglaw? $1500 sounds like a pretty loud and clear FU



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