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Targeted Practice Area?

Litigation
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54%
Transactional
32
46%
 
Total votes: 70

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:30 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Here's my very-early NY Bid list. I'm going to sprinkle in some secondaries, but I'm strictly transactional. Decent Finance WE and a transactional-focused 1L job. 3.4x, but .01 outside of top 1/3.

Am I missing any or is my order a mess?

-BabyJesus


Bump with an updated list. Any help would be very much appreciated.
You likely won't get Schulte or Cahill that low... both are NY/transactionally-focused firms that you seem to be looking for.
With your GPA you could probably reach higher


Any firms in particular you think i should reach for with higher bids?

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:16 pm

Uggggh, I gotta lock these down ASAP. Anyway. Gunning for DC for personal/external reasons and none too cheery about my odds. Targeting a few related DC-centric niche practices that complement my WE and 1L internship, but planning to cast a wider net to include litigation. 3.5x (roughly top 20-25%). Top of the list looks something like this and currently focuses on the niche practices with a handful of questionable reach firms thrown in. I plan to pad out the rest with broader-practice/litigation picks with medians lower than my GPA, but I'm wondering if I should thread more of that stuff into the top 10? General thoughts and criticisms would be awesome.

(all DC)
Hogan
Cooley
Venable
Arent Fox
Wiley Rein
Paul Hastings
Sutherland
Morgan Lewis
Davis Wright
Willkie Farr
Covington (never gonna happen, but their min gpa lets me dream)
Skadden (ditto)
Latham (ditto)
Harris, Wiltshire, & Grannis

Edited to add: callsign - Sheba

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:48 pm

Roughly top 20-25% (3.5x). Looking for NY/DC White Collar litigation. Here's my top 20:

Debevoise (NY)
Skadden (NY)
Davis Polk (NY)
Paul Weiss (NY)
Williams & Connolly (DC) - my Hail Mary pass
Gibson Dunn (NY)
Freshfields (NY)
Kramer Levin (NY)
Dechert (NY)
Sidley Austin (DC)
Steptoe & Johnson (DC)
Simpson Thatcher (NY)
Hogan Lovells (DC)
Cooley (NY)
WilmerHale (DC)
Latham (NY)
WilmerHale (NY)
Arnold & Porter (DC)
Kirkland Elis (NY)
Baker Botts (DC)

[EDIT] Call: APS

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Capitol_Idea » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:16 pm

Sheba:

Crowell Moring is worth considering: DC-centric biglaw that hires from around median (BUT: they pay a little below market)

Paul Weiss and Fried Frank should also be on your list.

I wouldn't put Covington, Latham, and Skadden far down on your list: your GPA may make it a longer shot but they hire decent sized classes in DC so GULC can get more than just one spot from them.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Notasearch » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:32 am

Hey folks,

I'm looking at things on the lit/reg sideand hope to work in areas including FCPA/anti-corruption, white-collar, government investigations, privacy, and perhaps antitrust, plus want to be at a firm with a significant international presence. I currently have a 3.70 (top 10%).

Here's my top 25 (all DC):

Latham & Watkins
Gibson Dunn
Cleary Gottlieb
WilmerHale
Covington & Burling
Arnold & Porter
Hogan Lovells
Sidley Austin
Paul Hastings
Willkie Farr & Gallagher
Jones Day
White & Case
Kirkland & Ellis
Ropes & Gray
O'Melveny [deleted]
Akin Gump
Steptoe & Johnson
Crowell & Moring
Baker McKenzie
King & Spalding
Morrison Foerster
Mayer Brown
Paul Weiss
Wiley Rein
McDermott Will & Emery

Any thoughts/questions/critiques would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Capitol_Idea » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:35 am

Notasearch: Get Simpson Thacher in there and put 'em high up on the list. Their DC office is small but ALL they do is lit/reg in areas like White Collar and FCPA, as well as some more interesting developing areas like CFIUS litigation. And they are damn good at it.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Notasearch » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:08 pm

Thanks for the tip, Capitol_Idea. I had STB slotted somewhere just outside this top 25 (due to the small size of the DC office) although I had noticed those attorneys they do have seemed concentrated in my primary areas of interest. I appreciate your giving some more detail about their DC presence and will definitely consider sliding them way up.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Capitol_Idea » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:54 pm

Another firm to consider: Allen & Overy DC. Very small group - basically took a practice group or so from OMM to start it up. Very small class and no structured summer program. Non-traditional opportunity with some risk - you have a better chance of making partner and becoming a big figure there if the office really takes off long term, but you're more at risk of having the office dematerialize or defect to another firm. Fwiw they seem serious about growing the DC presence but who knows how the wind will blow.

Energy practice, regulatory/Lit I believe (but don't quote me on that)

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:52 pm

Honestly not really sure what I'm going for, except that I want DC (with a bit of DE thrown in, pm for more details). But how does this look at all as a starting point? GPA should be well into top 5% (fingers crossed).

Weil DC
White & Case DC
Arent Fox DC
Debevoise DC
Latham DC
Gibson Dunn DC
Cleary DC
Boies DC
Kirkland DC
Jones Day DC
Simpson Thacher DC
Sidley Austin DC
Covington DC
Williams & Connolly DC
Paul Weiss DC
Sullivan and Cromwell DC
Richards, Layton, & Finger DE
Arnold & Porter DC
Hogan Lovells DC
WilmerHale DC
Akin Gump DC
Mayer Brown DC
Steptoe & Johnson DC
Crowell & Moring DC
Squire Patton Boggs DC
Wiley Rein DC
Paul Hastings DC
McDermott Will & Emery DC
K&L Gates DC
Willkie Farr DC

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:57 pm

Weil is a human soul murder factory.

With your GPA, bump up WillCo, Wilmer, Cleary, and Latham. All are extremely solid firms with good working environments and prestige.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:58 pm

Should I be doing bids under "request for resumes" in addition to doing early interview week? If so, for the same firms? Confused as to what request for resumes is

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby barkschool » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Confused as to what request for resumes is


You ever see that scene from Indiana Jones where they burn all the books?

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:22 pm

barkschool wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Confused as to what request for resumes is


You ever see that scene from Indiana Jones where they burn all the books?


I have not...

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
barkschool wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Confused as to what request for resumes is


You ever see that scene from Indiana Jones where they burn all the books?


I have not...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-HZz5Qv8E

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:48 pm

3.1X, W/E, DC>NYC, Lit>>>Transactional

Please critique or make suggestions.

Top 20:

Cozen O'Connor (Washington, DC)
Seward & Kissel LLP (New York, NY)
Hollingsworth LLP (Washington, DC)
Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP (New York, NY)
Chadbourne & Parke, LLP (New York, NY)
Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP (New York, NY)
Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP (New York, NY)
DLA Piper US LLP (Washington, DC)
Foley & Lardner LLP (Washington, DC)
Cahill Gordon & Reindel (New York, NY)
Venable LLP (Washington, DC)
Chadbourne & Parke, LLP (Washington, DC)
Foley & Lardner LLP (New York, NY)
Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP (New York, NY)
Baker Hostetler LLP (New York, NY)
Linklaters LLP (New York, NY)
Jones Day (Washington, DC)
Drinker Biddle & Reath LLP (Washington, DC)
Keller and Heckman LLP (Washington, DC)
Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP (Washington, DC)

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:06 am

Anonymous User wrote:3.1X, W/E, DC>NYC, Lit>>>Transactional

Please critique or make suggestions.

Top 20:

Cozen O'Connor (Washington, DC)
Seward & Kissel LLP (New York, NY)
Hollingsworth LLP (Washington, DC)
Kasowitz Benson Torres & Friedman LLP (New York, NY)
Chadbourne & Parke, LLP (New York, NY)
Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP (New York, NY)
Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP (New York, NY)
DLA Piper US LLP (Washington, DC)
Foley & Lardner LLP (Washington, DC)
Cahill Gordon & Reindel (New York, NY)
Venable LLP (Washington, DC)
Chadbourne & Parke, LLP (Washington, DC)
Foley & Lardner LLP (New York, NY)
Kramer Levin Naftalis & Frankel LLP (New York, NY)
Baker Hostetler LLP (New York, NY)
Linklaters LLP (New York, NY)
Jones Day (Washington, DC)
Drinker Biddle & Reath LLP (Washington, DC)
Keller and Heckman LLP (Washington, DC)
Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP (Washington, DC)


Hoping for 'Lit > Transactional and DC > NYC', but you've got 2 heavily transactional NY firms in your top 5 (Seward and Chadbourne).. and Cahill at 10.
Would prob consider bumping those down and bumping up Jones Day DC, Arnold & Porter DC, etc. though with ur GPA youll have to be careful not to bid on dc exclusively

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:15 am

Sheba here with an updated top 25. Incorporated some of Capitol_Idea's recommendations and tried to hit a better balance of attainable firms in the top 10. I'm targeting a DC-centric niche practice and/or general lit while bidding straight DC. 3.5x / top 20-25% with WE. Any advice to further refine this would be nifty. Y'all are the best.

1. Hogan
2. Venable
3. Cooley
4. Wiley Rein
5. Covington
6. Jones Day
7. Sidley Austin
8. Akin
9. Pillsbury
10. Paul Hastings
11. Morgan Lewis
12. Latham
13. Squire Patton
14. Steptoe
15. Drinker Biddle
16. Keller Heckman
17. Paul Weiss
18. Harris, Wiltshire & Grannis
19. Davis Wright
20. Skadden
21. Dechert
22. K&L Gates
23. Wilmerhale
24. Arnold & Porter
25. Crowell & Moring

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:16 pm

Any suggestions for transactional work in LA? I'm bidding heavily NY but if there are strong LA satellite branches I want to throw a bid or two that way too. GPA is top 15% but probably too low for MTO/Irell/OMM. Fairly strong ties to SoCal/LA, if that matters at all.

Also, should I be spending top bid slots for firms that need ~top 1/3 but have very low interview/bid ratios? I was going to bid similar to the other anon but don't understand why I'd put Simpson or even Weil as a top 5 over Ropes/Sidley which have low ratios.

-TJ

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Glasseyes » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any suggestions for transactional work in LA? I'm bidding heavily NY but if there are strong LA satellite branches I want to throw a bid or two that way too. GPA is top 15% but probably too low for MTO/Irell/OMM. Fairly strong ties to SoCal/LA, if that matters at all.

Also, should I be spending top bid slots for firms that need ~top 1/3 but have very low interview/bid ratios? I was going to bid similar to the other anon but don't understand why I'd put Simpson or even Weil as a top 5 over Ropes/Sidley which have low ratios.

-TJ


I'm not sure if you went to the California Legal Market Presentation they held at school (first attempt got snowed out; second was via teleconference and totally awkward, but still helpful), but the basic takeaway was that the only strong practice area in LA (besides IP) is transactional work. I took that to mean the usual highly-regarded suspects all have robust corporate practices. Can't speak to the strength of individual programs, but I'd start my search with Skadden, Gibson, Latham, Paul Hastings, Kirkland, MoFo and some of the other larger offices.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:50 pm

Right at median, heavy communications/media experience, summer has been complex corporate litigation, and on barristers, if it counts for anything. Top 20ish. Boston/LA/DC connections from college, home, and here.

Cahill Gordon NY
Weil Gotschal NY
Morgan Lewis DC
Hollingsworth DC
Wilkie Farr DC
Kramer Levin DC
Milbank Tweed
Mintz Levin Boston
Allen Overy
Stradley
K&L Gates Boston
DLA Piper
Dechert
Wiltshire Grannis
Paul Hastings LA
Wilkie NY
Foley Hoag
White Case
Sidley DC
Wilson Sonsini
Goulston Boston
Axinn

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:04 pm

Transfer from GW at top 10-15% (no hate, please). Interested in litigation in DC>NY>FL (ties to FL). Any critique would be welcome, because I really feel like I'm going in blind as I've only had two days to prepare this (unless it's after 5pm tomorrow, because it'll be too late to change and I don't want to get freaked out... :? ). Thanks in advance!

Akin Gump DC
Squire Patton Boggs DC
Sidley Austin DC
Allen & Overy DC
Proskauer Rose NY
Foley & Lardner DC
Fried Frank DC
Hogan Lovells DC
Milbank Tweed DC
Wilson Sonsini DC
WilmerHale NY
Ropes & Gray DC
Shearman & Sterling DC
Linklaters NY
Freshfields DC
Crowell & Moring DC
Debevoise & Plimpton NY
Jones Day DC
Davis Polk DC
Cleary Gottlieb DC
Clifford Chance DC
Kirkland & Ellis DC
Gibson Dunn DC
Clifford Chance NY
Paul Weiss DC
Skadden DC
Pilsbury Winthrop Shaw DC
Weil Gotshal DC
Greenberg Traurig Miami
Willkie Farr DC
Orrick Herrington DC
Simpson Thacher DC
Cravath NY
Chadbourne NY
O'Melveny DC
White & Case DC
Hunton & Williams NY
Baker Botts DC
Chadbourne & Parke DC
Baker Hostetler Orlando FL
Venable Baltimore MD
Goodwin Procter NY
Starn O'Toole Honolulu HI
White & Case Miami FL
Cadwalader Wickersham Taft DC
DLA Piper DC
Morrison & Foerster DC
Paul Weiss NY
Holland & Knight Orlando FL
Hollingsworth DC

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:13 am

Could someone tell me how this is looking ? Top 5%, some WE, looking for DC lit (with some preliminary interest in white collar):

1. Arnold and Porter DC
2. WilmerHale DC
3. Williams & Connolly
4. HoganLovells DC
5. Cleary DC
6. GibsonDunn DC
7. Sidley Austin DC
8. Skadden DC
9. Covington DC
10. Latham DC
11. Jones Day DC
12. Kirkland & Ellis DC
13. AkinGump DC
14. Davis Polk NY
15. Mayer Brown DC
16. O'Melveny DC
17. Paul Hastings DC
18. Paul Weiss DC
19. BakerBotts DC
20. Simpson Thatcher NY
21. DebevoiseNY
22. Alston Bird DC
23. Crowell & Moring DC
24. Willkie Farr DC
25. VinsonElkins DC
26. S&C NY
27. Cravath NY
28. Clifford Chance DC
29. Cooley DC
30. Baker McKenzie DC

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby BmoreOrLess » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:22 am

Anyone know if we need to attach our transcript to the resume in our bids? I'm assuming just the resume but wanted to check since it seems like people mass mailing are sending both together.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Capitol_Idea » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:28 am

BmoreOrLess wrote:Anyone know if we need to attach our transcript to the resume in our bids? I'm assuming just the resume but wanted to check since it seems like people mass mailing are sending both together.

As I recall you upload resume, transcript, and writing sample to simplicity, and use the same set for all your bids - they automatically then go to each firm on your bidlist. It's been a year though so don't quote me on that.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Capitol_Idea » Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:33 am

Anonymous User wrote:Could someone tell me how this is looking ? Top 5%, some WE, looking for DC lit (with some preliminary interest in white collar):

1. Arnold and Porter DC
2. WilmerHale DC
3. Williams & Connolly
4. HoganLovells DC
5. Cleary DC
6. GibsonDunn DC
7. Sidley Austin DC
8. Skadden DC
9. Covington DC
10. Latham DC
11. Jones Day DC
12. Kirkland & Ellis DC
13. AkinGump DC
14. Davis Polk NY
15. Mayer Brown DC
16. O'Melveny DC
17. Paul Hastings DC
18. Paul Weiss DC
19. BakerBotts DC
20. Simpson Thatcher NY
21. DebevoiseNY
22. Alston Bird DC
23. Crowell & Moring DC
24. Willkie Farr DC
25. VinsonElkins DC
26. S&C NY
27. Cravath NY
28. Clifford Chance DC
29. Cooley DC
30. Baker McKenzie DC


Use a callsign. Having to use long quotes like this are annoying.

You can move Hogan down a bit - you're in a strong position and can grab at least one top firm. I'd bump up Kirkland and Paul Weiss. So many people bid A&P, it might be a waste in your number 1 slot. If you're solidly top 5%, you might get a preselect interview with them anyway making the ranking irrelevant in your bidlist.




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