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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Glasseyes » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:This might've been covered, but what's the general rule for which bid slots most/all people get? Meaning can we generally count on 1-5, 1-10, etc? I know the preselect kind of throws a wrench in things, but just wondering if there's been a general trend in past years.


It's gonna depend on the firms you picked, how many slots they have this year, and how popular they happen to be this time around. The school posted bid stats for the past two years which were pretty much crucial to putting these things in an order that made sense, but there's no guarantee this year will follow last year's trend. Based on last year, you could have probably bid a firm like Arnold and Porter quite a bit lower and still got the interview because their GPA demands scared off most of the class (rightfully), whereas something open to lower GPA's like Holland and Knight only had a 6% chance of having a bid land a spot. Who knows what that really means; if every bid for H&K was 20 or below, you could bid 18 and win, though that's almost certainly not the case. A lot of this is just making educated guesses and crossing your fingers.

Edited to add: none of that answered your actual question. OCS told me if you bid wisely (whatever that means), you can expect to land a significant chunk of your top 15, but almost definitely not all of them. Not sure if I trust that.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby theotherone823 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:This might've been covered, but what's the general rule for which bid slots most/all people get? Meaning can we generally count on 1-5, 1-10, etc? I know the preselect kind of throws a wrench in things, but just wondering if there's been a general trend in past years.


Well, last year was the first year they did pre-select, so that's really the only reliable data we have. Looking through that thread, it seems that most people got the bulk of their interviews from their first 20 bids or so, but with no consistency as to which ones were an absolute lock. Although it looks like you will probably get your top 3-5 (but no guarantees).

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Capitol_Idea » Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:56 pm

I got most from my top 11-12 (all but 2). After that it gets spottier.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:5% letter was in my mailbox today. Gave the exact percent above 5. No email yet.


Got mine yesterday as well.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby BmoreOrLess » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:04 am

Anyone else neurotically checking symplicity and/or write on results? I feel like law school is one giant waiting game, and grades coming out sporadically this spring has really spiked my neurosis.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby JustHawkin » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:10 am

BmoreOrLess wrote:Anyone else neurotically checking symplicity and/or write on results? I feel like law school is one giant waiting game, and grades coming out sporadically this spring has really spiked my neurosis.

Right there with you.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby inchipwetrust » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:13 am

JustHawkin wrote:
BmoreOrLess wrote:Anyone else neurotically checking symplicity and/or write on results? I feel like law school is one giant waiting game, and grades coming out sporadically this spring has really spiked my neurosis.

Right there with you.


Are we supposed to check manually like that or will they be emailing us our bid results and/or write on results?

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby theotherone823 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:15 am

inchipwetrust wrote:
JustHawkin wrote:
BmoreOrLess wrote:Anyone else neurotically checking symplicity and/or write on results? I feel like law school is one giant waiting game, and grades coming out sporadically this spring has really spiked my neurosis.

Right there with you.


Are we supposed to check manually like that or will they be emailing us our bid results and/or write on results?


I think last year's thread said there was an email.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby BmoreOrLess » Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:17 am

inchipwetrust wrote:
JustHawkin wrote:
BmoreOrLess wrote:Anyone else neurotically checking symplicity and/or write on results? I feel like law school is one giant waiting game, and grades coming out sporadically this spring has really spiked my neurosis.

Right there with you.


Are we supposed to check manually like that or will they be emailing us our bid results and/or write on results?


They are supposed to email us that write on is up, and god only knows with bid results. I'm not holding my breath on anyone doing anything in a timely manner though.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:30 pm

theotherone823 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Write-on results tomorrow, perhaps? They posted this Friday in the previous two years...


I sure hope so. Is it safe to assume OJA will email us when they are up?


Any insider info on whether it will happen today?

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby BmoreOrLess » Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:41 pm

I'm starting to believe this "last Friday in July" thing. Ugh.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:05 pm

A semi-reliable source told me it was going to be next Friday, not to rain on everyone's hopes. Who really knows though. Seems like Gtown just likes to make us wait unreasonably long for everything.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby registering » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:38 pm

I wonder if they're just waiting for the dust to settle. I'm seeing a ton of transfer movement in my section alone (I might transfer too). I wouldn't be surprised if the class as a whole hits 20+. Then again, last year was an aberration, which I'm told kind of affected GLJ because it ended up recruiting way more people than it anticipated. They might not want to repeat that this year.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:42 pm

registering wrote:I wonder if they're just waiting for the dust to settle. I'm seeing a ton of transfer movement in my section alone (I might transfer too). I wouldn't be surprised if the class as a whole hits 20+. Then again, last year was an aberration, which I'm told kind of affected GLJ because it ended up recruiting way more people than it anticipated. They might not want to repeat that this year.


Curious what section?

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby BmoreOrLess » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:49 pm

Transferring from GULC seems dumb. If you're in a good shape to transfer to HYS, great, but if you're looking at CCN, you probably have the same options at GULC as you would in the new school except you'd be paying a ton more (assuming you have a scholarship).

But also very interested in what section.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby registering » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:55 pm

Section 4, and so far I count 4, and I'm not friends with everyone either. Some rumors going around that a few more are considering it. I'm actually quite torn on transferring since I want to do bigfed/regulatory work, but I've never seen evidence that GULC actually helps place into federal agencies despite the location.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby BmoreOrLess » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:15 pm

I hope one of those people who should have gotten a B- but wound up with an A is using it to their advantage to transfer. Or was that section 5?

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby registering » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:39 pm

I'm not aware of any kind of grades drama. We did have a couple generous curves, but that was more because the profs balanced them out with ~8 B- or below grades.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:40 pm

Section 5.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:48 pm

BmoreOrLess wrote:I'm starting to believe this "last Friday in July" thing. Ugh.


Though in previous years that has been exactly 2 weeks before EIW orientation. For us, today is that day.

[just holding out hope here]

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby theotherone823 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:58 pm

registering wrote:I'm not aware of any kind of grades drama. We did have a couple generous curves, but that was more because the profs balanced them out with ~8 B- or below grades.


Apparently in one of the § 5 ConLaw small sections, the Prof. fucked up and accidentally decoded the grades wrong, so everyone got the opposite grade of what they were supposed to get (i.e., you were told you got a B- when you were supposed to get an A and visa versa). GULC has a policy where they won't change a grade if they report it to you wrong and the mistake is in your favor, so pretty much that whole small section ended up getting As/A-s.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby BmoreOrLess » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
BmoreOrLess wrote:I'm starting to believe this "last Friday in July" thing. Ugh.


Though in previous years that has been exactly 2 weeks before EIW orientation. For us, today is that day.

[just holding out hope here]


At this point, I'm just hoping they don't maintain the Journal Results-then-EIW Results pattern. I really need those back next week so I can start mailing firms I didn't get.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:09 pm

I think it was about 60% A/A-s. I was in that class. The professor accidentally sorted his Excel spreadsheet without noticing, so all the exam numbers got jumbled around. Needless to say, it was a mess.

I should add that it had no effect on honors cutoffs.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby registering » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I think it was about 60% A/A-s. I was in that class. The professor accidentally sorted his Excel spreadsheet without noticing, so all the exam numbers got jumbled around. Needless to say, it was a mess.


That might help explain why their top third/15%/10% cutoffs are higher than everyone else's.

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Re: Georgetown - EIW 2015

Postby BmoreOrLess » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:20 pm

registering wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:I think it was about 60% A/A-s. I was in that class. The professor accidentally sorted his Excel spreadsheet without noticing, so all the exam numbers got jumbled around. Needless to say, it was a mess.


That might help explain why their top third/15%/10% cutoffs are higher than everyone else's.


I doubt it will have a hugggge class-wide impact, and the biggest impact would come from the incorrect A-'s. I suspect most, if not all, of the people who really got B-'s are people who would likely towards median/bottom 1/3 anyways (and almost certainly not in the top 10/15), so one A isn't going to swing it that much. If anything it would have an impact on the top third cutoffs, but it is highly doubtful it had an impact on the top 10/15.




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