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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:07 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What's going on at DANY? Heard lots of rumors of turnover/general dissatisfaction in the Trial Bureaus. For example, they usually lose about 17 Trial Division ADAs a year and as of June they've lost over 40. Spoke briefly with someone who uses to work there (now an AUSA) and said morale is way low and that a lot of people feel undervalued.


Current Manhattan ADA here. Actually kinda depends on the trial bureau (some are experiencing dips in morale, and one in particular is rock bottom, while others are on the rebound or never went down). The office is having to pay for its crazy hiring practices over the past 5 or so years, 2013 being the worst where they only put 4 rookies in each bureau and there are months where there are 5-6 institutional assignments so that class was basically assigned every day. Everyone's rookie year is hard because you're assigned most of the time while handling 150-200 cases, but the office unnecessarily made it even worse with smaller classes. They're finally going back in the right direction (they hired a class large enough to supply 8 rookies per bureau), but the office is losing the ADA's who suffered through the severe overstretch.

So there's been an uptick in people leaving in addition to the normal turnover of people going to US Attorney's Offices, firms, etc. I suspect it will even back out once the affected classes from the hiring shenanigans have left.

ETA: also, I don't think the 40 figure is correct. There have been quite a few farewell emails over this summer, but I don't think the figure is that high.

Does anyone know if we get 2 tries at the bar for dany? Freaking out a bit


You get 3 tries total. If you don't pass the 1st time, you get the month of February off (paid) to study. However, if you fail again, you have to take July off (unpaid), and if you don't pass that 3rd time you're let go.

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:44 pm

Did any other incoming NYC ADAs neglect to finish the NYLC in time to take the August NYLE? Am I in big trouble now that I have to take it in October? :oops:

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:50 pm

Does anyone know how DANY decides bureau placements? For internships, they sent us a form where we ranked trial division, appeals, special narcotics, etc. - do they do something similar for ADAs?

I really don't want to be placed in appeals...

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:48 pm

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I really don't want to be placed in appeals...


Awww, why not?

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:40 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know how DANY decides bureau placements? For internships, they sent us a form where we ranked trial division, appeals, special narcotics, etc. - do they do something similar for ADAs?

I really don't want to be placed in appeals...


They really try to not put people in Appeals if they are 100% opposed to it. That said, if you gave a lukewarm answer to whether you'd like to do Appeals during the interviews, you might find yourself in there.

Other than that, most people go to Trial Division, a few to SNC. The placement per bureau in the Trial Division remains a mystery to me though.

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:54 pm

Anonymous User wrote:That said, if you gave a lukewarm answer to whether you'd like to do Appeals during the interviews, you might find yourself in there.


Ah, this explains it. I was somewhat opposed but didn't rule it out because I wanted to be hired anywhere (Not DANY, but another NYC office).

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:02 pm

Is there a thread for 2017 hiring?

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is there a thread for 2017 hiring?


Not yet. Usually one starts up at the end of July. I guess I could make it.

EDIT: Done. viewtopic.php?f=23&t=267166

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:53 am

anyone know the policies for what happens if you fail the bar at the respective nyc offices? i've heard you get 2 chances but unsure

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby encore1101 » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:08 am

Anonymous User wrote:anyone know the policies for what happens if you fail the bar at the respective nyc offices? i've heard you get 2 chances but unsure



PM me. I have an anecdote for you from my office related to this question.

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:48 am

Hey, I posted on the 2017 thread, but also wanted to post here in case it might get me more advice. I'm really interested in becoming an assistant district attorney. It would be my dream first job. I am wondering if you could offer some window as to what I'd need (grade wise, experience wise, etc) to get hired.

FYI I'm a 2L at a T20 regional with a B average. I worked at the AG's office for like 6 months. Could you give some advice on what I should do from now on?

Since my school is regional, I was wondering if I should only apply to DA offices in state or should I feel comfortable branching out to other states I'm interested in?

Thanks!

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:34 pm

Anyone else still waiting on their school delivering their diploma for their office's background check?

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby encore1101 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:43 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Hey, I posted on the 2017 thread, but also wanted to post here in case it might get me more advice. I'm really interested in becoming an assistant district attorney. It would be my dream first job. I am wondering if you could offer some window as to what I'd need (grade wise, experience wise, etc) to get hired.

FYI I'm a 2L at a T20 regional with a B average. I worked at the AG's office for like 6 months. Could you give some advice on what I should do from now on?

Since my school is regional, I was wondering if I should only apply to DA offices in state or should I feel comfortable branching out to other states I'm interested in?

Thanks!



I was going to say read through the thread, but yea, 28 pages is a lot to read through.

Your questions vary from office to office, but generally, grades and school don't matter for state/local ADA positions. They want to see demonstrable interest in public sector work, not necessarily prosecution, but something to indicate that you really are committed to public interest and ADA isn't a fallback for not getting biglaw.

Get criminal law/mock trial/moot court experience. You definitely need to get some internships at a prosecutor's office. Make clear at your internship you want practical experience, like complaint typing, arraignment, or even conducting a hearing under supervision.

It doesn't hurt to apply to other states, but your strongest bet is your local ones. They're the ones with alumni.

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:03 am

Just saw that the Bronx email was not bcced. This is a huge class, I (quickly) counted 51.

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:52 pm

Probably more with laterals.

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby sd5289 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 8:23 pm

DANY has a good size class coming in too (at least according to the rumors).

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:54 pm

sd5289 wrote:DANY has a good size class coming in too (at least according to the rumors).


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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:46 pm

t-20 3L, below median. I hadn't considered this route until a few months ago, so neither of my summer experiences reflect a particular interest in a prosecutor's office: RA + 2/7/9/DC externship --> Senate judiciary (doing some crim justice reform stuff, which is what sparked my interest in Crim Law).

No moot court or trial ad experience.

What're my chances at a non-NYC DA's office? Am I perma-fuct?

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Sprout » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:t-20 3L, below median. I hadn't considered this route until a few months ago, so neither of my summer experiences reflect a particular interest in a prosecutor's office: RA + 2/7/9/DC externship --> Senate judiciary (doing some crim justice reform stuff, which is what sparked my interest in Crim Law).

No moot court or trial ad experience.

What're my chances at a non-NYC DA's office? Am I perma-fuct?

You're not perma-fucked if you can express interest/take Crim Pro or Trial (or both), and be convincing in an interview/application.

Purely anecdotal, but I had a few friends decide their 3L they wanted to work for the DA after some firm stuff didn't work out for them. They got jobs. It just depends. Although, I will tell you from my own experience as an intern, being a prosecutor is intense, esp if you don't intern first and see many sentencings, etc, it can be hard to know how you will handle it. Make sure the idea and practice of being a prosecutor jives with you. There are other options if you're not into it.

Edit: Sorry I have zero idea of your chances. But if anyone else knows, I know someone similarly situated who would also be interested in the answer to this.

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:40 pm

Sprout wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:t-20 3L, below median. I hadn't considered this route until a few months ago, so neither of my summer experiences reflect a particular interest in a prosecutor's office: RA + 2/7/9/DC externship --> Senate judiciary (doing some crim justice reform stuff, which is what sparked my interest in Crim Law).

No moot court or trial ad experience.

What're my chances at a non-NYC DA's office? Am I perma-fuct?

You're not perma-fucked if you can express interest/take Crim Pro or Trial (or both), and be convincing in an interview/application.

Purely anecdotal, but I had a few friends decide their 3L they wanted to work for the DA after some firm stuff didn't work out for them. They got jobs. It just depends. Although, I will tell you from my own experience as an intern, being a prosecutor is intense, esp if you don't intern first and see many sentencings, etc, it can be hard to know how you will handle it. Make sure the idea and practice of being a prosecutor jives with you. There are other options if you're not into it.

Edit: Sorry I have zero idea of your chances. But if anyone else knows, I know someone similarly situated who would also be interested in the answer to this.


I know of similarly situated people who got hired (nyc office).

If your schools has a prosecution clinic (or anything remotely resembling one), go beg whoever runs it to let you in right now. Same with crim pro/trial ad/evidence. Reach out to alumni who are ADAs and talk to them about their day-to-day and the hiring process

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:12 pm

Good Day,

I have my third round with the Manhattan DA's office coming up. Can anyone give me some incite on what to expect from the Executive Panel please whether it is more hypos like round two or just trying to see if I am a good fit. I have not seen any posts of others speaking about this round unfortunately.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby sd5289 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Good Day,

I have my third round with the Manhattan DA's office coming up. Can anyone give me some incite on what to expect from the Executive Panel please whether it is more hypos like round two or just trying to see if I am a good fit. I have not seen any posts of others speaking about this round unfortunately.

Thank you in advance.


It is a more intense version of round 2. There will be hypos, and there will be more pointed questions about your fit for the office. The best piece of advice I have here is don't bullshit. They'll see right through it. Generally once you've gotten to this point, they're really looking to see whether you will be a good fit for this office or not. Be honest, make decisions during your hypos and explain why, and most importantly, remember your ethical obligations. You shouldn't just feel obligated to abide by our ethical obligations, you should understand the reasons why those obligations are important and agree with them.

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:37 pm

Anybody hear back from Cook County waitlist after sending in their letter stating they passed the bar exam? And if so, was it by phone or email?

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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Bratty_60 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Also just received a Bx offer this "wave".

Did not follow up after 3rd as I didnt have a competing offer. I legitimately expected offers to go out after Clark was sworn in. I also wanted to give other offices a chance to "catch up" on rounds.

Interviewed sometime in November.

Based on my offer deadline and the spurt of offers this week, expect a further wave* of hires right around Christmas (or New Years).

*Just a guess, they might just be offering straight through.



How long did Bronx give you to accept?


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Re: District Attorney Offices 2016

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Bratty_60 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Also just received a Bx offer this "wave".

Did not follow up after 3rd as I didnt have a competing offer. I legitimately expected offers to go out after Clark was sworn in. I also wanted to give other offices a chance to "catch up" on rounds.

Interviewed sometime in November.

Based on my offer deadline and the spurt of offers this week, expect a further wave* of hires right around Christmas (or New Years).

*Just a guess, they might just be offering straight through.



How long did Bronx give you to accept?


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