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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:52 pm

Depends on the firm but just by looking at some of the firms' 1L classes, you can tell looks definitely didn't hurt.

Can't hate though. "If you got it..."

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:54 pm

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
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Anonymous User wrote:Slightly below median. 4 CBs - 2 rejs 1 pending 1 offer

But my situation is little different than most people's so..


How is your situation different?


i thought this "anonymous" feature is for people who don't like to expose their true identity.
if i could share w/o being exposed i would have done it already. so


Various reasons for "overachieving" your GPA at OCI include: 1) URM status, 2) prestigious undergrad, 3) previous legal experience (e.g. paralegal at big firm), 4) valuable undergrad degree (e.g. finance/business from McCombs), 5) law review (write on, obviously), 6) hard IP, 7) language ability, 8 ) exceptionally attractive, 9) moot/mock trial achievements, 10) charm-their-pants-off interviewing skills.

Sorry if this is all entirely obviously, but the point is you are more than your GPA/rank.


"exceptionally attractive" ha. I could see being unattractive a definite hindrance but does being really really ridiculously good looking actually help overcome grades?


Look at the 6 girls that worked at Andrews Kurth Houston and tell me there isn't at least a legitimate bias towards good looking girls, even if that's the only firm where it exists.

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:06 am

Shit's definitely real. There is no question. People who get 1L SAs are 1) Texas natives with very good grades or experience, and 2) Hot girls.

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:20 am

Anonymous User wrote:Shit's definitely real. There is no question. People who get 1L SAs are 1) Texas natives with very good grades or experience, and 2) Hot girls.


multiple, multiple examples of people who got 1L SAs and did not fit these categories. I'm sure this happens don't get me wrong, but I would say that for 80% of people it was good grades

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:26 am

Well of course. To state it another way: If you were going to pick an identifiable group of people who had 1L SAs who were not Texas natives with good grades, the next most identifiable group -- by a considerable margin -- was hot girls.

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:47 am

Anonymous User wrote:"exceptionally attractive" ha. I could see being unattractive a definite hindrance but does being really really ridiculously good looking actually help overcome grades?


I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. For example, you can open a center for kids who can't read good.

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:15 am

Anonymous User wrote:Well of course. To state it another way: If you were going to pick an identifiable group of people who had 1L SAs who were not Texas natives with good grades, the next most identifiable group -- by a considerable margin -- was hot girls.


While I was one of the ones who agreed that being attractive is definitely a boost, I don't think these groups are mutually exclusive. I mean, knowing most of who I'd guess you guys are referring to as "hot girls" that got 1LSAs, I can guarantee you that they also did well in class (either from personal knowledge or through the grapevine). Soft skills such as looks, URM, or work experience are exactly that; softs. They're nice to have if you're in the ballpark of qualifications, but they won't save you if you didn't do your homework. Plenty of hot girls, minorities, and former business people (who even had good grades) w/o 1LSAs from our class.

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:35 am

Anon wrote:Soft skills such as looks, URM, or work experience are exactly that; softs. They're nice to have if you're in the ballpark of qualifications, but they won't save you if you didn't do your homework.

That doesn't explain the hot girls who got multiple biglaw 1L SA offers **before first-semester grades even came out**. When "softs" are all the employers have to look at December of 1L year, the value of being hot and sweet jumps appreciably.

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:53 pm

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Anon wrote:Soft skills such as looks, URM, or work experience are exactly that; softs. They're nice to have if you're in the ballpark of qualifications, but they won't save you if you didn't do your homework.

That doesn't explain the hot girls who got multiple biglaw 1L SA offers **before first-semester grades even came out**. When "softs" are all the employers have to look at December of 1L year, the value of being hot and sweet jumps appreciably.


this still does not overturn the statement that being hot isn't exclusive to having good grades. since everybody is actually debating this issue, here is my 2 cents: you assumed that those girls had nothing else backing them but good looks before the grades came out

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:00 pm

Right - I don't think anyone is saying that looks and grades are mutually exclusive, or that the applicants "had nothing else going for them"; I just think that in the case of pre-grade offers based solely on what you're calling "softs", the incremental value of good looks and a great personality could be significant.

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Right - I don't think anyone is saying that looks and grades are mutually exclusive, or that the applicants "had nothing else going for them"; I just think that in the case of pre-grade offers based solely on what you're calling "softs", the incremental value of good looks and a great personality could be significant.


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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:18 pm

Any post-labor day offers?

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any post-labor day offers?


not an offer but got a CB for next week from a firm that didn't give me an interview at OCI. Reapplied last week anyway for shits and got it call today + cb after

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know of any offers given out by Holland & Knight Dallas or Gardere Dallas?


I know Holland and Knight is still interviewing, I wonder if they won't make offers until they are done.

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby SOS09270 » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:28 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Does anyone know of any offers given out by Holland & Knight Dallas or Gardere Dallas?


I know Holland and Knight is still interviewing, I wonder if they won't make offers until they are done.



Can confirm that at least one Holland & Knight Dallas offer has been extended.

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:42 pm

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not an offer but got a CB for next week from a firm that didn't give me an interview at OCI. Reapplied last week anyway for shits and got it call today + cb after


good hustle. good luck!

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:35 pm

Any Willkie offers?

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:06 pm

So any other firms out there that have given callbacks? Any still outstanding? I just need to gauge how quickly I should start whoring myself out.

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:18 pm

Has anybody heard anything from Dentons?

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:20 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I just need to gauge how quickly I should start whoring myself out.



Yesterday.

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:32 pm

TK Dallas post-cb ding this week.

Any word on offers for:
Baker Botts - Dallas
Andrews Kurth - Dallas
Perkins Coie - Dallas
Latham - Houston

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:35 pm

Latham and Wilkie have made offers

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:49 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Latham and Wilkie have made offers


Any clue when Latham made offers? Any Latham dings yet?

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Re: University of Texas 2015 OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 11, 2015 1:36 pm

^No dings for Latham that I know of, but I know that at least 1 offer that was made about 8/28.




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