Have you considered... Delaware?

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby DELG » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:06 pm

AreJay711 wrote:I'd probably have to take the DE bar before applying post-clerkship, right?

Probably. The DE bar is only offered in July, and you also have to have a preceptor to motion for your admission, along with a lengthy list of "clerkship requirements." It's designed to keep people out.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby DELG » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:08 pm

J90 wrote:That's awesome. Curious about the exits. How many people have you seen leave Delaware (for NY, or CA, or anywhere), and any examples of places they've gone?

I've seen people leave for every major market, to firms from V10 on down.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby DELG » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:13 pm

To be clear, I would say leaving for a V100 isn't typical. But it's also not rare.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby bulinus » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:30 pm

Do you really have to go to a Sheriff's Sale to get admitted?

http://courts.state.de.us/bbe/docs/Cler ... HBarEx.pdf

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby DELG » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:32 pm

bulinus wrote:Do you really have to go to a Sheriff's Sale to get admitted?

http://courts.state.de.us/bbe/docs/Cler ... HBarEx.pdf

Nope, it's been revised twice since that was published. It's less onerous now.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:20 pm

FWIW: Potter is NOT the "chillest." If I had to pick one of the Big 4 as the best for lifestyle, I'd say YCST.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:24 pm

Above non. OP is right about exit ops - "V100 isn't typical." In fact, it's hardly typical. I've seen it happen many times with certain outstanding junior associates/super senior associates, but it's certainly not the norm. As expected, practice group and experience matter. As does the firm you're at. Big 4 -> NYC V10 is unlikely. Skadden DE -> NYC V10 is more likely, but still not great odds.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby DELG » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:FWIW: Potter is NOT the "chillest." If I had to pick one of the Big 4 as the best for lifestyle, I'd say YCST.

Could be. Safe to say, RLF and MNAT are not it, and depending who you ask, either Potter or Young is. But it's still firm life regardless.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby DELG » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:31 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Above non. OP is right about exit ops - "V100 isn't typical." In fact, it's hardly typical. I've seen it happen many times with certain outstanding junior associates/super senior associates, but it's certainly not the norm. As expected, practice group and experience matter. As does the firm you're at. Big 4 -> NYC V10 is unlikely. Skadden DE -> NYC V10 is more likely, but still not great odds.

In all fairness, most people trying to leave a Wilmington firm aren't trying to land at a NYC VAnything, and in V100, I am including regional offices of firms.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby seespotrun » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:33 am

Anonymous User wrote:Above non. OP is right about exit ops - "V100 isn't typical." In fact, it's hardly typical. I've seen it happen many times with certain outstanding junior associates/super senior associates, but it's certainly not the norm. As expected, practice group and experience matter. As does the firm you're at. Big 4 -> NYC V10 is unlikely. Skadden DE -> NYC V10 is more likely, but still not great odds.

Skadden associate or YCST prisoner/alum who's butthurt about exit opps?

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby chuckbass » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:07 am

Reasons to choose DE over Philly? (For work, not living)

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:22 am

"Skadden associate or YCST prisoner/alum who's butthurt about exit opps?"


Neither. But good try.
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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:36 am

scottidsntknow wrote:Reasons to choose DE over Philly? (For work, not living)


In my opinion, more "sophisticated" work within the realm of corporate litigation (i.e., chancery litigation) and corporate deal work. Not sure how much that'll matter if you're not about that suburb life, though.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby pancakes3 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:37 am

What's chancery lit?

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby ymmv » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:44 am

pancakes3 wrote:What's chancery lit?


Where basically everything you learn in Corporations happens.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby chuckbass » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:51 am

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scottidsntknow wrote:Reasons to choose DE over Philly? (For work, not living)


In my opinion, more "sophisticated" work within the realm of corporate litigation (i.e., chancery litigation) and corporate deal work. Not sure how much that'll matter if you're not about that suburb life, though.

Any insight as to the main differences between Philly corporate work and DE corporate work?

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby DELG » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:05 am

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scottidsntknow wrote:Reasons to choose DE over Philly? (For work, not living)


In my opinion, more "sophisticated" work within the realm of corporate litigation (i.e., chancery litigation) and corporate deal work. Not sure how much that'll matter if you're not about that suburb life, though.

This, but also the partnership prospects are probably better, and depending on which Philly firm, DE may still pay more.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby DELG » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:06 am

scottidsntknow wrote:
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scottidsntknow wrote:Reasons to choose DE over Philly? (For work, not living)


In my opinion, more "sophisticated" work within the realm of corporate litigation (i.e., chancery litigation) and corporate deal work. Not sure how much that'll matter if you're not about that suburb life, though.

Any insight as to the main differences between Philly corporate work and DE corporate work?

They're totally, completely different. Philly is local Philly work. DE is not local DE deals.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby chuckbass » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:16 am

DELG wrote:
scottidsntknow wrote:
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scottidsntknow wrote:Reasons to choose DE over Philly? (For work, not living)


In my opinion, more "sophisticated" work within the realm of corporate litigation (i.e., chancery litigation) and corporate deal work. Not sure how much that'll matter if you're not about that suburb life, though.

Any insight as to the main differences between Philly corporate work and DE corporate work?

They're totally, completely different. Philly is local Philly work. DE is not local DE deals.

Ok makes sense. So are you really limiting yourself if you do Philly corporate work?

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby DELG » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:27 am

scottidsntknow wrote:Ok makes sense. So are you really limiting yourself if you do Philly corporate work?

Nah, you're limiting yourself more by doing DE, probably, but I don't do deals, maybe our anonymous butthurt Potter bro can weigh in.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby itascot1992 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:35 am

From working in DE, I will say that the traffic is NOT BAD at all unless a bridge is out

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby DELG » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:53 am

itascot1992 wrote:From working in DE, I will say that the traffic is NOT BAD at all unless a bridge is out

I will add that these are the kinds of ringing QOL endorsements you can expect.

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby itascot1992 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:01 am

DELG wrote:
itascot1992 wrote:From working in DE, I will say that the traffic is NOT BAD at all unless a bridge is out

I will add that these are the kinds of ringing QOL endorsements you can expect.


Even if you live outside of DE, the only heavy traffic area is the 476/95 interchange

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby DCNTUA » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:03 am

DELG wrote:
itascot1992 wrote:From working in DE, I will say that the traffic is NOT BAD at all unless a bridge is out

I will add that these are the kinds of ringing QOL endorsements you can expect.


:lol:

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Re: Have you considered... Delaware?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:11 am

Does Skadden pay the same salary/bonus structure as the NYC office? For someone interested in doing corporate transactional work and living in Philly how would you rank Skadden, Dechert, and Morgan? And do most people who commute to Delaware drive or take the train? Thanks for starting this thread/answering all these questions.




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