Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby smaug » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:43 pm

yeah i'm sure they just used clout to get that sweet sweet SCOTUS gig

ETA: but not as sweet as your gig, obvi

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby ndirish2010 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:47 pm

greekdebtcrisis wrote:
BearLaw wrote:Y'all know there is no chance this isnt flame, right?

Guy joined up the day this thread started, has only posted in this thread, cannot write all that well (certainly not persuasively), mixes up names of things while still stubbornly insisting he can offer advice, and last but not least, will NOT let the "negotiate" thing go.

EDIT: Just saw the line about no Journal for SCOUTS clerk... mmhmm, and I have a great beachfront lot in Arizona I will sell you too.


They published in our journal but weren't on it. Also you'd be surprised who gets feeders these days. People at HYS have worked for feeders before in some capacity or have worked on the hill and those people will make calls for them or they are simply married to someone who has a lot of clout or born into it. You act like no one gets feeders or scotus without connections and that's it is a meritocracy.


On the contrary, people who get feeders DO have connections. Just not the kind of connections that you're talking about.

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby greekdebtcrisis » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:49 pm

ndirish2010 wrote:
greekdebtcrisis wrote:
BearLaw wrote:Y'all know there is no chance this isnt flame, right?

Guy joined up the day this thread started, has only posted in this thread, cannot write all that well (certainly not persuasively), mixes up names of things while still stubbornly insisting he can offer advice, and last but not least, will NOT let the "negotiate" thing go.

EDIT: Just saw the line about no Journal for SCOUTS clerk... mmhmm, and I have a great beachfront lot in Arizona I will sell you too.


They published in our journal but weren't on it. Also you'd be surprised who gets feeders these days. People at HYS have worked for feeders before in some capacity or have worked on the hill and those people will make calls for them or they are simply married to someone who has a lot of clout or born into it. You act like no one gets feeders or scotus without connections and that's it is a meritocracy.


On the contrary, people who get feeders DO have connections. Just not the kind of connections that you're talking about.


I'm not following. You realize my universe is limited. I'm just saying that I was surprised people who got feeders weren't really chosen fairly. what connections are you talking about?

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby ndirish2010 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:49 pm

This I actually am qualified, by your standards, to address. I will be clerking for a circuit judge next year and several of my law school friends clerked for feeders.

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby greekdebtcrisis » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:52 pm

Jason Taverner wrote:yeah i'm sure they just used clout to get that sweet sweet SCOTUS gig

ETA: but not as sweet as your gig, obvi


Why wouldn't you try? Anyway, my gigs are fine for what I'm pursuing but some people out of business schools have better options. I wish I could be guaranteed some of the salaries my friends are getting. There is a reason people pursue hf/pe: they pay a boatload and people generally like the work they do there.

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby greekdebtcrisis » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:53 pm

ndirish2010 wrote:This I actually am qualified, by your standards, to address. I will be clerking for a circuit judge next year and several of my law school friends clerked for feeders.


Ok, well I am happy for you on that account. What connections are you talking about other than law school profs?

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby ndirish2010 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:59 pm

greekdebtcrisis wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:This I actually am qualified, by your standards, to address. I will be clerking for a circuit judge next year and several of my law school friends clerked for feeders.


Ok, well I am happy for you on that account. What connections are you talking about other than law school profs?


Law school profs are basically what I'm talking about. This is how people generally get feeder clerkships (or any circuit clerkship, honestly).

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby greekdebtcrisis » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:02 pm

ndirish2010 wrote:
greekdebtcrisis wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:This I actually am qualified, by your standards, to address. I will be clerking for a circuit judge next year and several of my law school friends clerked for feeders.


Ok, well I am happy for you on that account. What connections are you talking about other than law school profs?


Law school profs are basically what I'm talking about. This is how people generally get feeder clerkships (or any circuit clerkship, honestly).


True for the majority. I've seen enough counter examples to leave a bad taste in my mouth.

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby rpupkin » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:53 pm

ndirish2010 wrote:I'd love to hear more about someone who got a feeder and then SCOTUS clerkship without being on a journal. LOL.

For what it's worth, I know two such people. Seriously.

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby ndirish2010 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:47 pm

rpupkin wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:I'd love to hear more about someone who got a feeder and then SCOTUS clerkship without being on a journal. LOL.

For what it's worth, I know two such people. Seriously.


I believe you, but I'm really shocked honestly.

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:26 pm

greekdebtcrisis wrote:I mean it's cool that you think it is a punchline, but I've said that exact thing early on. I'm not hiding anything and just think people shouldn't sell themselves short if they don't see themselves in transactional biglaw (or as transactional attorneys) for the long term.

Didn't you start out saying people shouldn't go into biglaw at all because of all the sweet non-law options and why weren't people taking advantage of them?

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby greekdebtcrisis » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:33 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
greekdebtcrisis wrote:I mean it's cool that you think it is a punchline, but I've said that exact thing early on. I'm not hiding anything and just think people shouldn't sell themselves short if they don't see themselves in transactional biglaw (or as transactional attorneys) for the long term.

Didn't you start out saying people shouldn't go into biglaw at all because of all the sweet non-law options and why weren't people taking advantage of them?


Yep. I still stand by that as the first priority if you're going into trans biglaw just for $$$ and you know you're leaving.

Of course if they can't get that, then negotiate is my second recommendation

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby megagnarley » Thu Jun 25, 2015 1:42 am

And this is why people hate law students.

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby greekdebtcrisis » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:09 am

megagnarley wrote:And this is why people hate law students.


Why? And what does "this" refer to?

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Re: Is prestige of law firm really worth it?

Postby megagnarley » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:56 am

greekdebtcrisis wrote:
megagnarley wrote:And this is why people hate law students.


Why? And what does "this" refer to?


This.




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