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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:47 pm

wwwcol wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:OCS says you can email the hiring coordinators 10-12 days after a CB if you haven't heard anything.

Does this seem like it would actually change anything (like get a ding or offer faster)? I can't see it helping anything, except perhaps a yield protect situation.


Don't do it unless you have another offer expiring soon. You're exactly right that it won't help anything, but it may hurt you.


How can it hurt you, unless you are saying things like "could you make a decision asap?"?
I think something like "I would like to know the status of my candidacy" should be alright.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:40 pm

Any movement on S&C?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
wwwcol wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:OCS says you can email the hiring coordinators 10-12 days after a CB if you haven't heard anything.

Does this seem like it would actually change anything (like get a ding or offer faster)? I can't see it helping anything, except perhaps a yield protect situation.


Don't do it unless you have another offer expiring soon. You're exactly right that it won't help anything, but it may hurt you.


How can it hurt you, unless you are saying things like "could you make a decision asap?"?
I think something like "I would like to know the status of my candidacy" should be alright.


I think you're underestimating how much work the recruiting folks are doing right now/how much power they have.

E.g., at my firm, there was one head of recruiting and s/he had one assistant. Together, they coordinated about 700 on campus interviews given by 22 attorneys. S/he and (when applicable) each of the 22 attorneys met with the hiring committee and gave at least cursory consideration to everybody (and much more in-depth consideration for candidates on the cusp). Each of the 150-or-so candidates who got a callback received a personalized phone call and then called in to coordinate their callbacks. S/he arranged the schedules for those 150 callbacks, each of which involved meeting with 5 different attorneys (with requirements as to how many were partners/associates and the need to loop in hiring committee members.) All of those 150 candidates were then discussed by subunits of the hiring committee (with alums from each school brought in to help give context) and offers were extended to some portion of them.

The amount of coordination involved here is immense. Oftentimes the staffing is lean. And probably the last email s/he wants to receive (of the dozens and dozens s/he got that day) was from a Harvard student asking about their candidacy (which will be interpreted, though I have no doubt this is not your intention, as a "Where is my offer" email.)

S/he is a professional and would never let annoyance at getting an email get in the way of your decision. (Also, the committee structure somewhat reduces her/his ability to do so.) But at some firms, the recruiting people have a ton of say in who gets a callback.

Does this mean don't send an email? No, not necessarily. At some point the wait does become ridiculous. Especially, as suggested above, if you've got offers expiring. Every recruiting person in the world understands how that works and will probably try to be helpful. But just think before sending off the email.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby hls314159 » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:36 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any movement on S&C?


SullCrom tries to get their offers out within a few days.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:10 pm

To the anon above: I was told 3 days, but everyone I've heard getting an offer got it within 24/48 hours… (had mine on Mon) also heard they are cutting more at the cb stage round this year. Very upsetting.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:36 am

why is that upsetting at all? S&C is a great firm, and the partners there seem great, but they really need to cut more of the "extreme personalities" that make it through the grade filter into the CB stage.

ETA: oh darn, didn't realize that you were gunning for a spot. i mean, all the best, i hope you get it, but some of the people i ran into on my CB were absolutely vicious.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:02 am

Skadden Boston offer earlier this week. CB week of 8/23.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:41 pm

6 callbacks, of which 1 was a ding and 5 are radio silent. All were over a week ago except one.

Am I screwed? I'm very worried because most of these callbacks have very small (less than 5) SA positions.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:6 callbacks, of which 1 was a ding and 5 are radio silent. All were over a week ago except one.

Am I screwed? I'm very worried because most of these callbacks have very small (less than 5) SA positions.

Start mass mailing before it's too late.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:02 pm

cravath callback on wed (met briefly with corp hiring partner at the end, but it doesn't seem to mean much this cycle) and still radio silence. Should i take it as a ding now?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:56 pm

W&C offers are out - a lot of Law Review

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:45 pm

just curious how'd you know this - on the inside, or was a list circulated?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:10 pm

Brewer (TX) offer.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:34 am

Does anyone have an idea what the turnaround is for Wachtell? CB late last week.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:04 pm

Wachtell was ~week turnaround.

Is Susman still silent?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Sep 08, 2015 10:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:W&C offers are out - a lot of Law Review


Anonymous User wrote:just curious how'd you know this - on the inside, or was a list circulated?


For posterity's sake, it looks like there were 12 W&C offers this year. 7 HLR, 5 not.
Source is an email that went out today.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 09, 2015 10:45 pm

EIP results for future reference:

2 DS, 6H, 2P with some work experience, no clerkship.

Total:
21 interviews
16 callbacks offered
9 callbacks accepted
8 offers

DC:
11 interviews
8 callbacks offered
4 callbacks accepted
4 offers

NYC:
10 interviews
8 callbacks offered
5 callbacks accepted
4 offers

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby metroidbum » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:EIP results for future reference:

2 DS, 6H, 2P with some work experience, no clerkship.

Total:
21 interviews
16 callbacks offered
9 callbacks accepted
8 offers

DC:
11 interviews
8 callbacks offered
4 callbacks accepted
4 offers

NYC:
10 interviews
8 callbacks offered
5 callbacks accepted
4 offers


WHAT SHOCKING AND UNEXPECTED RESULTS

Cool humblebrag bro

this is not what the anon function is for

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Single-Malt-Liquor » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:08 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:EIP results for future reference:

2 DS, 6H, 2P with some work experience, no clerkship.

Total:
21 interviews
16 callbacks offered
9 callbacks accepted
8 offers

DC:
11 interviews
8 callbacks offered
4 callbacks accepted
4 offers

NYC:
10 interviews
8 callbacks offered
5 callbacks accepted
4 offers


WHAT SHOCKING AND UNEXPECTED RESULTS

Cool humblebrag bro


I know this is hard because some people are having less than spectacular results but it is a good thing for as many people as possible, even those at the top of the class to put results out there when they finish their cycle. Look back at passed threads.

Congrats to the op and good luck to you my friend.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby nothingtosee » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:15 pm

Would it be more useful to just do an eip results thread?

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:43 pm

EIP results:

2H/7P/1LP

20 screeners
2CB
0 offers

8 cover letter targeted mail
1CB
0 offers

27 days of crying

Protip: Don't get an LP. Learn to "want" to do NY corporate...
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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:EIP results:

2H/7P/1LP

20 screeners
2CB
0 offers

8 cover letter targeted mail
1CB
0 offers

27 days of crying


I'm in the same boat.
What are you planning to do next? :(

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:EIP results:

2H/7P/1LP

20 screeners
2CB
0 offers

8 cover letter targeted mail
1CB
0 offers

27 days of crying


I'm in the same boat.
What are you planning to do next? :(


Resume book, public interest, get grades up (as if I could just do it...) and try to get a district court clerkship to delay applying for jobs again.

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Re: HLS EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Sep 09, 2015 11:52 pm

4H, 6P; no other accolades; I think (?) above average interviewer. NY Lit.

23 Screeners
8 Call Backs
6 Offers (1 x V5, 2 x V15, 2 x V25, 1 x V50)

Not sure what went on from Screeners --> CB because a lot of firms that offered CB to people with lower stats didn't offer me one. Also, Lit is significantly tougher than Corp. Is it just me or did a lot of people find that people in my range of grades kind of bombed a little this year? I think I was the one of the few that really lucked out with a V5.




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