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Re: HLS EIP 2015
Has anyone heard back after the McKinsey case round yesterday and the day before?
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1DS/4H/5P
Boston Lit
6 years, non-legal WE; inconsistent interviewer
16 screeners
7 CBs offered accepted & attended
7 offers
Boston Lit
6 years, non-legal WE; inconsistent interviewer
16 screeners
7 CBs offered accepted & attended
7 offers
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Re: HLS EIP 2015
1DS/5H/4P
19 screeners (12 NYC/7 Chicago)
7 CBs (5 NYC/2 Chicago)
6 CBs taken (5 NYC/1 Chicago)
3 offers (3 NYC)
KJD + lit + mediocre interviewer
19 screeners (12 NYC/7 Chicago)
7 CBs (5 NYC/2 Chicago)
6 CBs taken (5 NYC/1 Chicago)
3 offers (3 NYC)
KJD + lit + mediocre interviewer
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Re: HLS EIP 2015
3L with MBB offer. For details, quote me non-anon and I'll PM you.
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Interested in general detailsAnonymous User wrote:3L with MBB offer. For details, quote me non-anon and I'll PM you.
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Re: HLS EIP 2015
Not the quoted OP but also went through consulting interviews. What general details are you looking for? If you are looking for a broad overview, let me know and I can post something to this forum so everyone can see. If you'd like something more specific, also let me know and I can PM you my perspective as well.
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Re: HLS EIP 2015
To the specific question a few posts above:
No news on McK final rounds; BCG offer was same day (same hour, even)
No news on McK final rounds; BCG offer was same day (same hour, even)
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Yeah, from your experience what kind of people get CBs/offers from MBB? EG only people with business backgrounds and business WE? How much prep is necessary to do well in the process?Anonymous User wrote:Not the quoted OP but also went through consulting interviews. What general details are you looking for? If you are looking for a broad overview, let me know and I can post something to this forum so everyone can see. If you'd like something more specific, also let me know and I can PM you my perspective as well.
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(One of the above posters, but not the one you're quoting.)Mack.Hambleton wrote:Yeah, from your experience what kind of people get CBs/offers from MBB? EG only people with business backgrounds and business WE? How much prep is necessary to do well in the process?Anonymous User wrote:Not the quoted OP but also went through consulting interviews. What general details are you looking for? If you are looking for a broad overview, let me know and I can post something to this forum so everyone can see. If you'd like something more specific, also let me know and I can PM you my perspective as well.
You need a lot of prep. You don't need to be MBA level when it comes to case interviews, but you need to be able to hold your own.
Business background isn't necessary. I sure don't have one. But I did have a solid reason and a few good examples of how I fit into the consulting world.
Also Bain doesn't like JDs. I know a PhD that went through their interview process and said they make it hell for non-MBAs.
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Different, different anon.
My own take is that 2 years of WE is a decided advantage, just because you're going in as an associate rather than an analyst (observation holds even truer if you try to do FIW). You will get a leadership and teamwork question for every interview you go through, and at this stage of entry it's just not as convincing if your leadership examples come from out of, say, a student group in college.
Also, realistically you will be applying to BCG and McKinsey only (Bain doesn't recruit at HLS), and while the basic case interview format is the same there are also important nuances in the interview styles.
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My own take is that 2 years of WE is a decided advantage, just because you're going in as an associate rather than an analyst (observation holds even truer if you try to do FIW). You will get a leadership and teamwork question for every interview you go through, and at this stage of entry it's just not as convincing if your leadership examples come from out of, say, a student group in college.
Also, realistically you will be applying to BCG and McKinsey only (Bain doesn't recruit at HLS), and while the basic case interview format is the same there are also important nuances in the interview styles.
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thanks guys! Better strategy, interviewing 2L or 3L? Seems like you'd have more time to prep if interviewing during 3L
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Regarding work experience: I don't think we disagree. My only specification was that it doesn't have to be business. I have 2-3 years FT WE and it was critical.Anonymous User wrote:Different, different anon.
My own take is that 2 years of WE is a decided advantage, just because you're going in as an associate rather than an analyst (observation holds even truer if you try to do FIW). You will get a leadership and teamwork question for every interview you go through, and at this stage of entry it's just not as convincing if your leadership examples come from out of, say, a student group in college.
Also, realistically you will be applying to BCG and McKinsey only (Bain doesn't recruit at HLS), and while the basic case interview format is the same there are also important nuances in the interview styles.
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3L, IMO. If you want to split your summer there's nothing wrong with interviewing during the regular process, but everything is so much easier during 3L. My "why I want to jump the law ship to do consulting" speal was a lot more powerful when I could just name what was missing from my law firm summer. Also, without all the firm interviews I had virtually unlimited time for case prep.Mack.Hambleton wrote:thanks guys! Better strategy, interviewing 2L or 3L? Seems like you'd have more time to prep if interviewing during 3L
But you can also do both. It just will make your August hellish.
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If you know right now, as a 1L, that you never want to practice as a lawyer, then my advice is to apply 1L, 2L and 3L. Yes, it's an appreciable amount of work, but the payoff is substantial and you can make it work. If in 1L, then go to fewer cocktail receptions during winter term (PSW is a joke). If during 2L, it's very unlikely that you'll be in a summer job where you'll be too busy to work through cases. It's also very important to note that you get better with real reps - through actual interviewing, which can be very different from the sort of preparations that you can go through with friends. Being rejected is non-evaluative for subsequent attempts.
The one caveat to this might be if applying earlier forecloses you from doing so later, e.g., I've heard somewhere that you can only apply to McKinsey every 2 years. That's definitely not true at BCG, and I don't think it's even true for on-campus McK as well, although it wouldn't hurt to check.
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The one caveat to this might be if applying earlier forecloses you from doing so later, e.g., I've heard somewhere that you can only apply to McKinsey every 2 years. That's definitely not true at BCG, and I don't think it's even true for on-campus McK as well, although it wouldn't hurt to check.
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Re: HLS EIP 2015
I'm sure people in HALB etc could answer this, but what resources did you guys use for case prep?
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Tell enough people that you're doing case interviews and they'll send you case sets. Business schools all keep case interview cases like law students keep outlines, except often they publish them as packets. Also: Case In Point and anything by Victor Cheng.Mack.Hambleton wrote:I'm sure people in HALB etc could answer this, but what resources did you guys use for case prep?
The most important thing is practice and repetition. Find a couple of cases partners (I had eight, but fewer could have worked) to give and receive cases to and from. Varied feedback helps, especially if you have partners who aren't afraid to dig into you critically.
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Sorry - bump for Mck. Has anyone heard anything yet? If not, they're being awfully slow.
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5 H/5 P, K-JD, strong interviewing skills, litigation only, successful in splitting NYC/DC
TOTAL:
23 screeners
18 callbacks
12 callbacks attended
12 offers (10 V15 offers)
NYC:
16 screeners
12 callbacks
8 callbacks attended
8 offers
DC:
5 screeners
5 callbacks
3 callbacks attended
3 offers
Other:
2 screeners
1 callback
1 callback attended
1 offer
Hope these data points help future applicants. Best of luck to everyone still seeking offers. Keep your heads up!
TOTAL:
23 screeners
18 callbacks
12 callbacks attended
12 offers (10 V15 offers)
NYC:
16 screeners
12 callbacks
8 callbacks attended
8 offers
DC:
5 screeners
5 callbacks
3 callbacks attended
3 offers
Other:
2 screeners
1 callback
1 callback attended
1 offer
Hope these data points help future applicants. Best of luck to everyone still seeking offers. Keep your heads up!
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Extraordinary, almost unbelievably strong callback to offer ratio. Bravo.Anonymous User wrote:5 H/5 P, K-JD, strong interviewing skills, litigation only, successful in splitting NYC/DC
TOTAL:
23 screeners
18 callbacks
12 callbacks attended
12 offers (10 V15 offers)
NYC:
16 screeners
12 callbacks
8 callbacks attended
8 offers
DC:
5 screeners
5 callbacks
3 callbacks attended
3 offers
Other:
2 screeners
1 callback
1 callback attended
1 offer
Hope these data points help future applicants. Best of luck to everyone still seeking offers. Keep your heads up!
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4H/6P
Corporate
Targeted SoCal
Screeners: 27
CB: 7
CBA: 6
Offers: 4
Corporate
Targeted SoCal
Screeners: 27
CB: 7
CBA: 6
Offers: 4
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1H/9P
Corporate
NY
Screeners: 37
CB: 4
CBA: 4
Offers: 0
Still searching/getting desperate. Know people with 3 or 4 h's who are also in the same situation. HLS is not safe, ~10% of the people do not get big law when they want. When you are part of that 10%, it is hell here.
Corporate
NY
Screeners: 37
CB: 4
CBA: 4
Offers: 0
Still searching/getting desperate. Know people with 3 or 4 h's who are also in the same situation. HLS is not safe, ~10% of the people do not get big law when they want. When you are part of that 10%, it is hell here.
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Make sure you are in constant talks with OCS. I know someone who struck out my year, and OCS basically handed them an offer with a (good) Boston firm. They will work to help you find something.Anonymous User wrote:1H/9P
Corporate
NY
Screeners: 37
CB: 4
CBA: 4
Offers: 0
Still searching/getting desperate. Know people with 3 or 4 h's who are also in the same situation. HLS is not safe, ~10% of the people do not get big law when they want. When you are part of that 10%, it is hell here.
Also, 10% seems high, but I assume people who don't get it don't talk about it.
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This statistic is wrong.Anonymous User wrote:HLS is not safe, ~10% of the people do not get big law when they want.
I'm sorry you're having trouble finding employment at the firms you are most interested in.
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Well, it wouldn't be surprising for HLS on average to post about a ~90% eip success rate (that's consistent with its peers), but you're right that that's a deceptively low percentage given the number of students that obtain summer offers at large firms outside of the formal EIP process or only pursue a handful of EIP interviews because they already had 1L SA's, ect. So it's almost certainly less than 10% that don't ultimately find a firm gig.TripTrip wrote:This statistic is wrong.Anonymous User wrote:HLS is not safe, ~10% of the people do not get big law when they want.
I'm sorry you're having trouble finding employment at the firms you are most interested in.
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There is definitely a thin line between a successful EIP and an unsuccessful EIP. If your grades aren't amazing it's a huge crapshoot and there are enough people with only 1-2 offers that it shouldn't be surprising that people end up with 0.
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