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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby ywellc » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:43 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Are the people who got a lot of CBs finding you had mostly talked about things other than law/the law firm during those interviews? Did the interviewer talk more or less than you? This info may be most valuable from someone who got 6+ CBs but doesn't have exceptional grades or law review.
I got fewer CBs than anticipated and want to know what to do differently when I go into offices.


I don't have 6 CBs but i have a 3.08 and 5 CBs and don't even consider myself particularly successful with interviews since i have had plenty of duds and dings.

Its very hit or miss and dependent on the interviewer but most of my interviews were just about law/the firm/law school. I think the key is not the content of the convo, but the delivery (obviously content matters to the point that you don't say anything tactless). I try to smile, to laugh, sometimes be sarcastic, frank, and even self depreciating (despite the warning from career services to exude confidence and be fake). Tell little anecdotes about classes or law school experiences in the same way that you would tell your friends. You want to come off as a friendly relatable person who can make a conversation about boring law stuff fun. But thats just my 2 cents and like i said above, i don't consider myself a fantastic interviewer by any means.


I think this is great advice. I'm a transfer from a mid-level T1 with a 3.8. I think I am actually a pretty good interview but in the CBs I got there was definitely a noticeably more "friendly" atmosphere by the end of the interview than the beginning. That said, I only bid t20 or better (with two exceptions where I did not, in fact get a CB) so I was pretty into the firms which made me both more anxious and more ready to relax if things got off to a good start, confident I knew enough to speak intelligently on "So... why X?"

I also wanted to point out that grades (and my case, pedigree) cutoffs are both real and apparent. For instance, I interviewed at WLRK and the partner was so impressed with how far I came and liked me enough he broke from custom and, after I answered an esoteric quasi-trick forthrightness black letter law contract question correctly, spoke frankly during the screener. He said that he would love to offer me a CB but it would be basically impossible to sell me to the rest of the team. We traded emails for two days before I got my ding where he implored me to take his class and reapply next year when I have CLS grades and (hopefully) hit honors. Similarly, my Cravath interview went well enough that during the screener I was asked to reapply next year for the same reasons. At first I looked at both of these experiences as being looked down upon. But the reality is my interviews went well to very-well, and it still wasn't enough; except in the instances where it was (all NY: K&E, BSF, Latham).

tl: dr The quality of the connection is important, but you might still get nothing.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:43 pm

deb-ding (MCT).. finally some closure.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:45 pm

did anyone get a ding from cleary or sullcrom?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:57 pm

Has anybody heard from Shearman from yesterday?


edit: CB at Cooley
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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:01 pm

S&C sent snail mail dings weeks after the fact last year, so you could be waiting a while on that one.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:16 pm

Ding for Nixon Peabody (DN). That's six dings, no callbacks from 21 interviews.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:17 pm

White & Case NY CB (JP). Phone.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:27 pm

So quick question: for those firms that sent out self-identification forms after interviews and said that they were reviewing my candidacy, do I take that as a sign that they might be considering me or do they just send those to everybody?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:28 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Looking for info on Proskauer (CP)


Proskauer NY CB (CP) Monday night. Phone.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:29 pm

Deb ding (NY). E-mail.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:33 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Looking for info on Proskauer (CP)


Proskauer NY CB (CP) Monday night. Phone.


Thanks!

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So quick question: for those firms that sent out self-identification forms after interviews and said that they were reviewing my candidacy, do I take that as a sign that they might be considering me or do they just send those to everybody?


Everybody

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:So quick question: for those firms that sent out self-identification forms after interviews and said that they were reviewing my candidacy, do I take that as a sign that they might be considering me or do they just send those to everybody?


I have NOT been doing these (mostly out of laziness rather than an aversion to self-identification)...should I be?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:21 pm

Deb ding, STB (MA) callback. Still nothing on sullcrom (SM)?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:26 pm

Anybody hear back from Simpson (BS)?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:47 pm

Any Herbert Smith and Ashurst movement? Both New York

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:51 pm

Anyone heard back from Norton Rose (NY) and Gibson Dunn (LA)?

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:24 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any Herbert Smith and Ashurst movement? Both New York


Ashurst NY CB early this morning by email (KD)

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:37 pm

Anything from STB (NL) or PW (BK)? Thanks, all!

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:41 pm

Heard from PW (BK) yesterday

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:41 pm

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:59 pm

I wasn't able to schedule a callback until late August, even though I called early on monday and the callback came late friday. I dunno if this is bad, given how many people have callbacks so quickly.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I wasn't able to schedule a callback until late August, even though I called early on monday and the callback came late friday. I dunno if this is bad, given how many people have callbacks so quickly.

It's not a big deal. A lot of schools haven't even done OCI yet.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:24 pm

Shearman & Sterling (RS) just now.

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Re: Columbia EIP 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:13 pm

Morgan Lewis (BB) CB, just now




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