Jason Taverner wrote:i'd still nix kaye scholer and move everything up
but someone should probably tell me i'm being too conservative
like, i thin there will always be the risk of creep now that the first failed bid numbers are out there, so i'd avoid seeing them as safe, group action will mean that people will move to those numbers, making many of them slide up over time
put another way, before they released the ffb data, there was an information asymmetry that some people used to exploit (in a good way) to secure more interviews
by putting the information out there, people who bid poorly before should be doing better, but that's going to have a cost of firms having the first failed bids move a bit from where they were
if it were me and i were a strong candidate like you are (you're a very good candidate) I'd sacrifice one or two firms I don't care that much about to ensure I get the slate I want
if you're consistently tracking one bid higher than the first failed bid of the year prior, you might have some issues
unfortunately, you also can't tell that movement yet, because you only have one year of first failed bid data to rely on
again, someone can yell at me, but I think the big issue is that your bidlist right now is conservative in one way and aggressive in another—the firms you're going are might be a touch conservative for your grades and background (though really WLRK is the only firm you're not trying for and you're probably? right in not bidding them?—not sure, no clue where the WLRK line is) but you're aggressive in that you're trying to bleed out as many interviews as possible
I did that during my cycle, and I regret it. The marginal gain of one more screener is low, and once you're above 22-3 screeners, I think it starts to come at a cost.
And, just so people don't get the wrong idea, I'm not saying that everyone should cut down on their interviews. I'm not saying you're absolutely guaranteed a job with those grades (or any grades).
But, you're in a really good situation. So, I'd consider knocking off something from the high end of your list. I'd expect that your hope is to end up at one of the more grade selective firms on your list (e.g., DPW, Cleary, S&C), so just trying to make sure you have the opportunity to interview with those firms.
Willkie is a decent firm that you don't have on your list. (I'd include them over Cadwalader, but that's just me) harder to say which others you should have without a clearer idea of practice area interests. could be sidley, Akin Gump, someone else
Thanks. This is really helpful and makes a lot of sense. I got rid of MoFo and Kaye Scholer and moved everything else up (and I added Wachtell because, what the hell).
I have bid #29 and #30 left over, and was wondering what my best strategy was. Options that I am considering are:
1. Bid NYC firms that did not have failed bids (would probably be safeties).
2. Bid firms I already have listed, but in other offices (like London) that did not have failed bids.
3. Bid firms that I will not get (like Proskauer, which had FFB at #1), just to be able to e-mail them and say that my bid was unsuccessful but I would still love to schedule an interview if possible (how successful is this anyway?).
What do people think is the best way to go?
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