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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:16 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Who are people emailing when they contact firms that gave them offers?

I emailed the legal recruiting director and CC'd hiring partner who signed my offer letter

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Any thoughts on the notion that, since summer classes at many, many firms have reached record-highs after the crisis, 3L hiring won't be as robust as, say...last summer?


Well paul weiss pulled out of oci at many schools for 3l... So yeah maybe it will be a down year for 3l recruiting

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:39 am

Is there a place to look up how many 3L hires a given firm made in the past?

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:58 am

With many firms seemingly giving CBs early, does it make sense to MM now if I wouldn't be able to attend a CB until early September? Or would it be better to wait a few weeks, receive an offer from my SA firm, then MM?

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:23 pm

I would send now, then update when you receive offer from your SA. Although I am currently having no success, it's more due to firms not hiring I think (have gotten about 70 dings already its quite sad, mailed like 400). Although I have an SA, i'm not like top 10% or anything so it could just be that, so dont let that amount discourage you lol. ppl are obviously having success already.

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:27 pm

Anon from above.

I should clarify, I won't really be MM'ng, there are only a couple firms I would be interested in leaving my current firm for, I'm just concerned about mailing them then not being able to do a callback for a month and a half.

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:45 pm

What is stopping you from CBing soon, if you don't mind me asking? If it's because you're mailing a different market, just say when you'll be in town. even if its a month from now, ifyou mail them closer to that time, there's more applications that have come in so there might be less demand. That would be my concern about that.

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby oblig.lawl.ref » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:57 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Anon from above.

I should clarify, I won't really be MM'ng, there are only a couple firms I would be interested in leaving my current firm for, I'm just concerned about mailing them then not being able to do a callback for a month and a half.


Not being available for a month and a half is a tough place to be when trying to get a job. When I interviewed last year for 3L jobs in NYC big firms mostly wanted to screen me almost immediately, or when they went to OCI at the latest. They then took like 2-4 weeks to get me in for an CB. Then like 1-3 weeks for a decision. It's a much more drawn out process than 2L OCI but last year, at least, firms seemed to want to screen me pretty quickly. I wouldn't want to have to tell them to cool their heels for 1.5 months.

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:58 pm

Anon from above.

I'll be visiting family out of the country.

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I would send now, then update when you receive offer from your SA. Although I am currently having no success, it's more due to firms not hiring I think (have gotten about 70 dings already its quite sad, mailed like 400). Although I have an SA, i'm not like top 10% or anything so it could just be that, so dont let that amount discourage you lol. ppl are obviously having success already.


Out of curiosity, when did you mail, and what level of firms did you get rejections from? (e.g., Rejections from firms not known for 3L hiring? Or V10s?)

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:11 pm

Totally understand that people are probably going to be unwilling to go into specifics, but ... is anyone willing to go into specifics about which firms have offered interviews/given rejections?

I can contribute that STB has said they won't be assessing 3L needs until late August.

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:26 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Totally understand that people are probably going to be unwilling to go into specifics, but ... is anyone willing to go into specifics about which firms have offered interviews/given rejections?

I can contribute that STB has said they won't be assessing 3L needs until late August.

I"m the CCN anon from earlier in the thread. Offer from DPW. Skadden was open to doing callback in mid-July.

ETA: Latham NY and Cleary NY are also hiring 3L's.
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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:29 pm

I'm the very unlucky anon from above. I've emailed all over the spectrum. Basically for perspective, I'm ~top 15% at T20, LR, published, but im getting dinged/we're not hiring/apply online from firms towards the bottom.

I don't have the grades for STB so they just told me they were hiring sparingly, didn't say when they were assessing, so I'm not going to discredit that.

I was gonna think of a separate thread but this is what people have told me (again, with perspective of my stats, they could very well be telling magnificent applications different things)

Orrick - October 2015
Crowell - January 2016
Jenner - January 2016
Jones Day - few months
Bracewell - July/august 2016

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:35 pm

No ties out there, so standard caveat that they could be telling others different things but

Wilson Sonsini SV - not hiring.
MoFo SF - will evaluate in October.

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:37 pm

Kirkland Chicago is hiring 3L's for certain groups FWIW, they haven't told us which ones yet though. (current SA here)

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:38 pm

Has anyone heard anything from Munger Tolles?

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I'm the very unlucky anon from above. I've emailed all over the spectrum. Basically for perspective, I'm ~top 15% at T20, LR, published, but im getting dinged/we're not hiring/apply online from firms towards the bottom.


You have an SA now. Count your blessings.

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Kratos » Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:45 am

Anonymous User wrote:Kirkland Chicago is hiring 3L's for certain groups FWIW, they haven't told us which ones yet though. (current SA here)

it's on symplicity. groups: Employee Benefits, Intellectual Property - Transactions, Private Funds, Real Estate, Restructuring, and Tax

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:27 pm

Fried Frank says they are done hiring for the year

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:44 pm

Would the HR not like it if I apply for multiple offices by sending my resumes to each recruiter at each office?

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby alclaw10 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Fried Frank says they are done hiring for the year



which office?

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:28 pm

New York

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:15 pm

anyone hear anything from kasowitz? i know everyone says stay away but their class seemed small this year so i sent them an app.

btw, fried frank hired a huge class this year. im sure they're done hiring.

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:15 pm

[double post, my bad]

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Re: 3L OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:32 am

Does Williams and Connolly interview 3Ls who have a clerkship lined up for a pre-clerk summer? Tried searching the internet but not much recent came up.




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