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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Mao » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:30 pm

Is it fair to say that if you don't recieve a call/ email today, you've not made law review?

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby runthetrap1990 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:42 pm

Mao wrote:Is it fair to say that if you don't recieve a call/ email today, you've not made law review?



The consensus is that you may be on a wait list, so sit tight. If a week or so goes by then I'd say it's 99.9% to 100% no, though.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:50 pm

So are LR phone calls effectively done for the day? Or is there still more time.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 13, 2015 3:53 pm

runthetrap1990 wrote:
Mao wrote:Is it fair to say that if you don't recieve a call/ email today, you've not made law review?



The consensus is that you may be on a wait list, so sit tight. If a week or so goes by then I'd say it's 99.9% to 100% no, though.


But wait, assuming you are on a waitlist and won't get in for another week, won't the other 2 journals get back to you before then? how long do you have to accept offers?

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby ramadden13 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:11 pm

If you are accepted off a waitlist, you can rescind acceptance to the journal you originally accepted. They will then go to their waitlist, and so on and so forth until all the dust settles.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:15 pm

Heard back from Law Review! How much of a bump to the real GPA does this give? I"m at a ~3.3 no real softs except a couple of years in low-level consulting.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:31 pm

Top 10% here, didn't make law review. I am interested in transactional work. How will this impact my AJF prospects? And should I prepare any differently assuming that I did not in fact make law review?

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby hephaestus » Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Heard back from Law Review! How much of a bump to the real GPA does this give? I"m at a ~3.3 no real softs except a couple of years in low-level consulting.

First, congrats. Second, it will obviously be helpful but its hard to measure in terms of GPA. I think its fair to say that you will convert more screeners to CBs than the average 3.3 applicant, and you will have something to really highlight besides your work experience. You can, however, go into AJF more confident that you can effectively stand out and market yourself. It depends on whether you want corp or lit, but try to think of a way to relate LR and its relevant skills (e.g. writing, attention to detail, legal research) applicable to the practice groups you want to sell.

That goes to everyone with journals. It is also a way to sound interested about the type of law that you want to practice (e.g. "I really want to write my note about activist shareholders," or "I plan on writing on current circuit split X.").

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:24 am

At least one firm requests that we bring in a list of references. Should we treat references like writing samples, and have a few copies available each day? And how many contacts should we list? Does Lawyering Professor, Supervisor from 1L Summer, and Boss from Job Right Before Law School sound alright?

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby runinthefront » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:38 am

Anonymous User wrote:At least one firm requests that we bring in a list of references. Should we treat references like writing samples, and have a few copies available each day? And how many contacts should we list? Does Lawyering Professor, Supervisor from 1L Summer, and Boss from Job Right Before Law School sound alright?


Google cornell law reference sheet for a standard sample

Sounds about right though

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:52 am

Where exactly do I look to see firms available for open slots?

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby runthetrap1990 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:00 am

runinthefront wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:At least one firm requests that we bring in a list of references. Should we treat references like writing samples, and have a few copies available each day? And how many contacts should we list? Does Lawyering Professor, Supervisor from 1L Summer, and Boss from Job Right Before Law School sound alright?


Google cornell law reference sheet for a standard sample

Sounds about right though


piggy back question, where do we see if a firm is requesting something specific like a writing sample or reference sheet. To date I have reached out no one for references...

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby runinthefront » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:07 am

runthetrap1990 wrote:
runinthefront wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:At least one firm requests that we bring in a list of references. Should we treat references like writing samples, and have a few copies available each day? And how many contacts should we list? Does Lawyering Professor, Supervisor from 1L Summer, and Boss from Job Right Before Law School sound alright?


Google cornell law reference sheet for a standard sample

Sounds about right though


piggy back question, where do we see if a firm is requesting something specific like a writing sample or reference sheet. To date I have reached out no one for references...

Symplicity. I only saw 2-3 (if that) who requested references. Just bring like 5 copies a day and you'll be fine, I'd imagine. I'm erring on the side of bringing 10 resumes, 10 transcripts and 5 references, 5 writing samples a day I think. I'm 100% sure it's gonna be massive overkill though

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:59 am

"Check . . . to see if a button appears" -- who writes this stuff? :<

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:15 pm

Hey look at all the sign up buttons annnnnnd they're gone.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:16 pm

Did anyone else find open slots for firms they bid at times they were free? Why wouldn't they have just given me that slot to begin with? Happened with two firms, both of which by the time I clicked through were gone.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:40 pm

I was able to nab Paul Hastings. I bid on them originally.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:00 pm

What is the likelihood of hearing back from the other journals today?

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby runthetrap1990 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 2:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What is the likelihood of hearing back from the other journals today?


I remember Lavitz saying that calls sometimes went out at like 7pm? it may very well be that they haven't gone out yet and are on the way tonight. Or tomorrow may be the day?

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:33 pm

So how has the waitlist for Law Review worked over past years? Like how many calls would come in between now and Friday? I guess it depends on transfers, etc., but I was wondering it there's an average based on past trends.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:45 pm

If we didn't hear back from any journal at all today, does that mean secondary journals are done giving out their offers too? (with the exception of the waitlist i guess...)

:(

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Lavitz » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:If we didn't hear back from any journal at all today, does that mean secondary journals are done giving out their offers too? (with the exception of the waitlist i guess...)

:(

I'm sure someone would have posted if the other journals made calls today. They likely did not. I haven't heard of anything. Maybe tomorrow.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:45 pm

Question. I currently have 8 interviews on Wednesday. I don't think it should be too bad, but I'm now trying to solicit some more interviews with firms that I missed through bidding and couldn't get via open slot. A few of the firms that I'm particularly eyeing are on Tuesday. Would it be too much to take on 9 interviews in one day? And if not, what is the best way to mentally prepare yourself for that kind of day.


For full disclosure I'm at 6,8,2 over the 3 days.

ETA: I've already sent out a soliciting e-mail to a firm that is coming on Tuesday, so my total could be at 9, potentially, meaning any more may slide me into 10. At what point should I draw the line?

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby hephaestus » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:09 am

runthetrap1990 wrote:
runinthefront wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:At least one firm requests that we bring in a list of references. Should we treat references like writing samples, and have a few copies available each day? And how many contacts should we list? Does Lawyering Professor, Supervisor from 1L Summer, and Boss from Job Right Before Law School sound alright?


Google cornell law reference sheet for a standard sample

Sounds about right though


piggy back question, where do we see if a firm is requesting something specific like a writing sample or reference sheet. To date I have reached out no one for references...

FYI on this no NY firms that I know of call references. Almost all the major DC firms do: W&C, A&P, WH DC, Cleary DC. So realistically you won't need much in terms of references but have a sheet to give to the select few that will ask.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby hephaestus » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:10 am

Anonymous User wrote:Did anyone else find open slots for firms they bid at times they were free? Why wouldn't they have just given me that slot to begin with? Happened with two firms, both of which by the time I clicked through were gone.

The likely reason for this is that a transfer who has left for (debatably) greener pastures had the slot, and now it was released to the open slots pool.




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