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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:15 pm

Hello! I'm 3.79 strongly interested in going back to Bay Area (but will take NYC if necessary), interested in VC/PE/emerging companies, but general transaction is just fine.

Frankly I'm at lost as to what to do with the NYC firms. On one hand I want to rank the CA firms high on top, but does that mean I will lose out on the popular NYC firms (assuming no luck in CA)?

I got some preselect interviews at the Bay Area Diverisyt Career Fair, but does anyone have information on what the CB chances are for BADCF (trying to decide if I should bid on the same firms in AJF).

Any feedback is much apprecited!

Day 1 Firm Slot Location
1 Gibson Dunn 20 SF&SV (Silicon Valley)
2 Pillsbury 20 SF (BADCF interview for SF Office)
3 Jones Day 20 SF&SV
4 Cleary Gottleib 40 NY
5 Davis Polk 60 NY (BADCF interview for SV Office)
6 WilmerHale 40 NY
7 Mofo 20 NY
8 Sullivan 40 NY
9 Winston Strawn 40 NY (BADCF interview for SV Office)
10 Cravath 36 NY
11 Sherman 60 NY
12 Akin Gump 40 NY

Day 2
1 O'Melveny & [deleted] 20 SF & SV
2 Wilson Sonsini 40 SF & SV (BADCF interview for SV Office)
3 Simpson Thacher 60 SV (BADCF interview for SV Office)
4 Paul Hastings 80 SF & SV
5 Skadden 20 NY
6 Weil, Gotshal 40 NY
7 Debevoise 60 NY
8 Kirkland Ellis 20 NY (BADCF interview for SF Office)
9 Foley 20 SF
10 Dechert 20 SF
11 Orrick 20 NY
12 Goodwin Proctor 20 NY
13 Sidley Austin 20 NY
14 White & Case 40 NY

Day 3
1 Cooley 20 SV (BADCF interview for SF Office)
2 Ropes & Gray 20 SF & SV
3 Fox Rothschild 20 SF
4 Clifford Chance 80 NY
5 Crowell & Moring 20 NY

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:33 pm

Hey everyone. I know that there are many non-TLS posting 1L lurkers out there monitoring this thread, so I'd just like to take a minute and talk about mass-mailing.

We've been killing it the last few years and really punching above our weight in terms of great employment outcomes. That being said, if you are not from New York City and would prefer a job in your home market to no job at all, I encourage you to shoot out cover letters and resumes to, at the very least, a few firms in your home market that aren't coming to AJF. A few hours of your time can end up with you receiving an offer in your back pocket and walking into AJF worry-free. This can only better your interview performance.

This isn't meant to be a gloomy post; I just wanted to remind you to send out some emails while preparing for AJF!

Good luck everyone

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Lavitz » Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Hello! I'm 3.79 strongly interested in going back to Bay Area (but will take NYC if necessary), interested in VC/PE/emerging companies, but general transaction is just fine.

Frankly I'm at lost as to what to do with the NYC firms. On one hand I want to rank the CA firms high on top, but does that mean I will lose out on the popular NYC firms (assuming no luck in CA)?

I got some preselect interviews at the Bay Area Diverisyt Career Fair, but does anyone have information on what the CB chances are for BADCF (trying to decide if I should bid on the same firms in AJF).

Any feedback is much apprecited!

I have no idea what to do with CA firms, but the way you have it set up looks pretty good. You should ask someone who did the BADCF if you should bother even bidding the same firms if you're going to interview with them there anyway.

Anonymous User wrote:Day 1 Firm Slot Location
1 Gibson Dunn 20 SF&SV (Silicon Valley)
2 Pillsbury 20 SF (BADCF interview for SF Office)
3 Jones Day 20 SF&SV
4 Cleary Gottleib 40 NY
5 Davis Polk 60 NY (BADCF interview for SV Office)
6 WilmerHale 40 NY
7 Mofo 20 NY
8 Sullivan 40 NY
9 Winston Strawn 40 NY (BADCF interview for SV Office)
10 Cravath 36 NY
11 Sherman 60 NY
12 Akin Gump 40 NY

I'd probably flip DPW and Wilmer, because I know I got Wilmer at 5 and DPW at 6. You won't get MoFo at 7, so you might as well put S&C and Cravath at 7 and 8 and hope you get them because of how competitive they are. Or maybe you can get Winston at 7, but I'm not sure.


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Day 2
1 O'Melveny & [deleted] 20 SF & SV
2 Wilson Sonsini 40 SF & SV (BADCF interview for SV Office)
3 Simpson Thacher 60 SV (BADCF interview for SV Office)
4 Paul Hastings 80 SF & SV
5 Skadden 20 NY
6 Weil, Gotshal 40 NY
7 Debevoise 60 NY
8 Kirkland Ellis 20 NY (BADCF interview for SF Office)
9 Foley 20 SF
10 Dechert 20 SF
11 Orrick 20 NY
12 Goodwin Proctor 20 NY
13 Sidley Austin 20 NY
14 White & Case 40 NY

Simpson and PH can both go lower. Skadden and Weil need to be higher. Even Debevoise should be 1 or two higher to be safe. I'd put Skadden at 2 or 3. Maybe Weil at 3 and Wilson at 4, especially since you already have an interview with Wilson.

Anonymous User wrote:
Day 3
1 Cooley 20 SV (BADCF interview for SF Office)
2 Ropes & Gray 20 SF & SV
3 Fox Rothschild 20 SF
4 Clifford Chance 80 NY
5 Crowell & Moring 20 NY

Whatever.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:52 am

Hey everyone. I know that there are many non-TLS posting 1L lurkers out there monitoring this thread, so I'd just like to take a minute and talk about mass-mailing.

We've been killing it the last few years and really punching above our weight in terms of great employment outcomes. That being said, if you are not from New York City and would prefer a job in your home market to no job at all, I encourage you to shoot out cover letters and resumes to, at the very least, a few firms in your home market that aren't coming to AJF. A few hours of your time can end up with you receiving an offer in your back pocket and walking into AJF worry-free. This can only better your interview performance.

This isn't meant to be a gloomy post; I just wanted to remind you to send out some emails while preparing for AJF!

Good luck everyone


Anon, when would you recommend starting mass mailing if you want to position yourself like you described. I have a pretty good idea of where I'm going to target outside of NYC but I'm not sure if i should wait until journal results come out or start pulling the trigger now.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby bpc2110 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:39 pm

Need some help. K-JD 3.56. Good interviewing skills. Interested in corporate but wouldn't rule out transactional.

M
Latham
Milbank
WilmerHale
Davis Polk
Proskauer
Schulte Roth
Shearman & Sterling
Fried Frank
Cahill
Jones Day
Akin Gump
Freshfields
Greenberg Traurig
Sullivan & Cromwell
Morrison & Foerster

T
Paul Weiss
Weil
Kirkland & Ellis
Willkie Farr
Simpson Thacher
Debevoise & Plimpton
Skadden Arps
White & Case
Cadwalader
Dechert
Paul Hastings
Hogan Lovells
Linklaters
Kaye Scholer
Goodwin Procter

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Lavitz » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:05 pm

bpc2110 wrote:Need some help. K-JD 3.56. Good interviewing skills. Interested in corporate but wouldn't rule out transactional.

Uh, corporate = transactional. What do you mean?
bpc2110 wrote:M
Latham
Milbank
WilmerHale
Davis Polk
Proskauer
Schulte Roth
Shearman & Sterling
Fried Frank
Cahill
Jones Day
Akin Gump
Freshfields
Greenberg Traurig
Sullivan & Cromwell
Morrison & Foerster

T
Paul Weiss
Weil
Kirkland & Ellis
Willkie Farr
Simpson Thacher
Debevoise & Plimpton
Skadden Arps
White & Case
Cadwalader
Dechert
Paul Hastings
Hogan Lovells
Linklaters
Kaye Scholer
Goodwin Procter

On Monday, I don't think you're getting anything from Shearman on down. I don't think you get Proskauer at 5, so I think I would put Fried Frank at 3, Jones Day at 4, WilmerHale at 5, Davis Polk at 6, and Schulte at 7. Not even sure if you get Schulte at 7, but I don't see any other good firms here to put at 7.

Willkie should be in top 3, and should probably be at #2 with Weil at #3. Not sure if you could get Kirkland at 4, so you may want to consider dropping it to increase your chances of getting other firms. Debevoise should probably be above Simpson, Skadden is probably too low, White and Case is definitely too low. You have good chance of getting Cadwalader and Dechert if you just bump them up slightly, so again, you may want to consider dropping something you'd be unlikely to get, especially since most of these firms are above your GPA.

I'm assuming there's a day 3 but you're just not bothering to post it.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:27 am

Update
3.75, no writing competition

1. Latham NYC 18
2. Milbank NYC 20
3. Fried Frank NYC 40
4. Shearman & Sterling NYC 60
5. Cahill NYC 60
6. Davis Polk NYC 60
7. Jones Day NYC 40
8. Schulte Roth NYC 40

1. Kirkland & Ellis NYC 20
2. Willkie Farr NYC 40
3. Paul Weiss NYC 40
4. Weil NYC 40
5. Simpson Thacher NYC 60
6. Debevoise NYC 60
7. Dechert NYC 60
8. Cadwalader NYC 80
9. Paul Hastings NYC 80

1. Ropes & Gray NYC 20
2. Hunton & Williams VA 20
3. Clifford Chance NYC 80 (I keep switching Ropes and CC on Wednesday, really conflicted about those two.)

Thanks!

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby bpc2110 » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:51 am

Meant litigation. Wouldn't rule out litigation.

Revised?

M
Latham
Milbank
Fried Frank
Jones Day
WilmerHale
Proskauer
Davis Polk
Schulte Roth
Shearman & Sterling
Cahill
Morrison & Foerster
Akin Gump
Freshfields
Greenberg Traurig
Sullivan & Cromwell

T
Paul Weiss
Weil
Willkie Farr
Debevoise & Plimpton
Simpson Thacher
Skadden Arps
White & Case
Cadwalader
Dechert
Paul Hastings
Kirkland & Ellis
Hogan Lovells
Linklaters
Allen & Overy
Kaye Scholer
Goodwin Procter

Lavitz wrote:
bpc2110 wrote:Need some help. K-JD 3.56. Good interviewing skills. Interested in corporate but wouldn't rule out transactional.

Uh, corporate = transactional. What do you mean?
bpc2110 wrote:M
Latham
Milbank
WilmerHale
Davis Polk
Proskauer
Schulte Roth
Shearman & Sterling
Fried Frank
Cahill
Jones Day
Akin Gump
Freshfields
Greenberg Traurig
Sullivan & Cromwell
Morrison & Foerster

T
Paul Weiss
Weil
Kirkland & Ellis
Willkie Farr
Simpson Thacher
Debevoise & Plimpton
Skadden Arps
White & Case
Cadwalader
Dechert
Paul Hastings
Hogan Lovells
Linklaters
Kaye Scholer
Goodwin Procter

On Monday, I don't think you're getting anything from Shearman on down. I don't think you get Proskauer at 5, so I think I would put Fried Frank at 3, Jones Day at 4, WilmerHale at 5, Davis Polk at 6, and Schulte at 7. Not even sure if you get Schulte at 7, but I don't see any other good firms here to put at 7.

Willkie should be in top 3, and should probably be at #2 with Weil at #3. Not sure if you could get Kirkland at 4, so you may want to consider dropping it to increase your chances of getting other firms. Debevoise should probably be above Simpson, Skadden is probably too low, White and Case is definitely too low. You have good chance of getting Cadwalader and Dechert if you just bump them up slightly, so again, you may want to consider dropping something you'd be unlikely to get, especially since most of these firms are above your GPA.

I'm assuming there's a day 3 but you're just not bothering to post it.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby hephaestus » Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:41 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Hey everyone. I know that there are many non-TLS posting 1L lurkers out there monitoring this thread, so I'd just like to take a minute and talk about mass-mailing.

We've been killing it the last few years and really punching above our weight in terms of great employment outcomes. That being said, if you are not from New York City and would prefer a job in your home market to no job at all, I encourage you to shoot out cover letters and resumes to, at the very least, a few firms in your home market that aren't coming to AJF. A few hours of your time can end up with you receiving an offer in your back pocket and walking into AJF worry-free. This can only better your interview performance.

This isn't meant to be a gloomy post; I just wanted to remind you to send out some emails while preparing for AJF!

Good luck everyone


Anon, when would you recommend starting mass mailing if you want to position yourself like you described. I have a pretty good idea of where I'm going to target outside of NYC but I'm not sure if i should wait until journal results come out or start pulling the trigger now.

You can start mass mailing any time around now. I do not think that you have to wait for journal results, and in fact getting them later is a good excuse to followup with firms that do not reply in a few weeks. For example, if you mail a bunch of firms and just have radio silence in around 3 weeks, you would then be able to send a followup not just affirming your interest but also building your candidacy by saying you made LR or ILJ or JLPP.

Also, as far as mass mailing goes, I have said this in quite a few PMs but be broad in your application. You can be as aggressive as you want to in mass mailing since you have nothing to lose by trying, including mailing markets that you do not have ties to or that you only have weak ties to. I know at least one person that ended up with their only offer being from a firm in a tertiary market they had only very weak ties to. The general rule with mass mailing is to let firms reject you, not the other way around. This is not mandatory, but just know that you can. I agree with anon that at the very least almost everyone should mail to firms in your home market. If you are from the NYC area this is a bit different; in that case I would mail firms in your next strongest tie area, like NJ.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:25 am

Hey guys, I'd love some advice. I'm at a 3.59, wouldn't say I have a strong preference for transaction vs. litigation. Though I'm probably leaning slightly towards litigation. Here's what I have so far. It's very tentative tbh lol I'm just trying to get something on paper atm.

Monday
1. Latham
2. Milbank
3. Fried Frank
4. Jones Day
5. Proskauer
6. WilmerHale
7. Shearman
8. Schulte Roth
9. Cahill
10. Morrison & Foerster
11. Akin Gump
12. Greenberg
13. Sullivan & Cromwell
14. Freshfields
15. Davis Polk

Tuesday
1. Paul Weiss
2. Weil
3. Willkie
4. Paul Hastings
5. White & Case
6. Debevoise
7. Simpson Thatcher
8. Dechert
9. Cadwalader
10.Kirkland & Ellis
11. Hogan Lovells
12. Linklaters
13. Goodwin Procter
14. Kaye Scholer

Wednesday
1. Clifford Chance
2. Ropes & Gray
3. Cooley
4. Cromwell & Moring

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Lavitz » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:39 am

Anonymous User wrote:Tuesday
1. Paul Weiss
2. Weil
3. Willkie
4. Paul Hastings
5. White & Case
6. Debevoise
7. Simpson Thatcher
8. Dechert
9. Cadwalader
10.Kirkland & Ellis
11. Hogan Lovells
12. Linklaters
13. Goodwin Procter
14. Kaye Scholer

I'd flip Paul Hastings and White & Case, and switch Simpson with Cadwalader.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:35 pm

3.50, NYC, corporate. Thanks for the help in advance!

Monday
1 Proskauer Rose New York 20 MGO 3.67-3.38-3.55
2 Milbank, Tweed, Hadley New York 20 VGO 3.88-3.43-3.6
3 Shearman & Sterling New York 60 MGO 3.77-3.02-3.48
4 Jones Day New York 40 MGO 3.88-3.24-3.55
5 Cahill Gordon New York 60 MGO 3.65-3.19-3.44
6 Fried Frank New York 40 MGO 3.78-3.35-3.58
7 Winston & Strawn New York 40 N/A
8 Schulte Roth New York 40 MGO 3.75-3.46-3.29
9 Reed Smith New York 20 Flexible 3.59-3.05-3.29
10 Greenberg Taurig New York 20 Flexible 3.59-3.12-3.32
11 Stroock & Stroock New York 20 Flexible 3.39-3.15-3.28
12 Chadbourne and Parke New York 20 MGO 3.76-3.48-3.55
13 Curtis, Mallet-Prevost New York 20 Flexible 3.29-3.10-3.20
14 Lowenstein Sandler Roseland, NJ 20 N/A

Tuesday
1 Goodwin & Proctor New York 20 Flexible 3.49-3.17-3.37
2 Orrick Herrington New York 20 MGO 3.45-3.25-3.35
3 Weil, Gotshal New York 40 MGO 3.91-3.57-3.24
4 Hogan Lovells New York 40 MGO 3.65-3.38-3.45
5 Cadwalader New York 80 MGO 3.81-3.21-3.51
6 Wilkie Farr New York 40 MGO 3.91-3.37-3.56
7 Dechert New York 60 MGO 3.90-3.16-3.54
8 Linklaters New York 40 MGO 3.88-3.24-3.49
9 Paul Hastings New York 80 VGO 4.01-3.29-3.61
10 K&L Gates New York 20 N/A
11 Foley & Lardner New York 20 MGO 3.48-3.37-3.29
12 Hughes Hubbard New York 20 N/A
13 Herbert Smith New York 20 MGO 3.64-3.10-3.43
14 White & Case New York 40 MGO 3.81-3.35-3.57

Wednesday
1 Clifford Chance New York 80 MGO 3.92-3.24-3.56
2 Cooley New York 20 MGO 3.48-3.28-3.40
3 Perkins Coie Seattle 20 N/A
4 Bryan Cave New York 20 Flexible 3.43-3.06-3.25
5 Pepper Hamilton New York 20 N/A
6 Haynes Boone New York 20 N/A

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:41 pm

Minor question, but how frowned upon is it to use Lawyering memos. The nature of my job is such that I may not be able to get a writing sample out of it due to confidentiality issues.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:08 pm

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's perfectly fine to use a Lawyering memo. That's what I'll probably have to do since I am working for a judge and am not expecting to be able to use my writing because it's for a pending case.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby tyrant_flycatcher » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Minor question, but how frowned upon is it to use Lawyering memos. The nature of my job is such that I may not be able to get a writing sample out of it due to confidentiality issues.


Piggybacking off of this, do firms expect us to bring a writing sample? I know White & Case wants us to have one for AJF, but I assumed they were an outlier.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Wol » Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:14 pm

I'd ask one of the law clerks about it, or see if your chambers has a handbook that addresses writing samples. Might be able to use a sample from a judicial internship if you redact the identifying info first.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:15 pm

3.8131 (10%), did writing comp but don't believe I did stellar. I prefer transactional to litigation, but want a firm that does both. I am supposedly a good interviewee, I am somewhat risk averse, and I want NYC.

All NYC unless stated otherwise.

Day 1.
1. Latham 3.63 (3.45/3.88) 18
2. Gibson Dunn 3.80 (3.65/4.01) 20
3. Cravath 3.78 (3.62/4.01) 36
4. Cleary 3.87 (3.92/3.77) 40
5. Davis Polk 3.73 (3.24/4.01) 60
6. WilmerHale 3.62 (3.24/3.92) 40
7. Shearman 3.48 (3.02/3.77) 60
8. Cahill Gordon 3.44 (3.19/3.65) 60
9. Jones Day 3.55 (3.24/3.88) 40
10. Akin 3.64 (3.57/3.73) 40
11. Fried Frank 3.58 (3.35/3.78) 40
12. Milbank Tweed 3.60 (3.43/3.88) 20
13. Freshfields Bruckhaus 3.64 (3.43/3.92) 20
14. Proskauer Rose 3.55 (3.38/3.67) 20
15. Morrison & Foerster 3.58 (3.28/3.71) 20

Day 2. (not sure who to add)
1. Skadden 3.74 (3.43/4.01) 20
2. Paul Weiss 3.68 (3.24/4.01) 40
3. Kirkland Ellis 3.67 (3.42/3.91) 20
4. Simpson Thacher 3.73 (3.05/4.01) 60
5. Debevoise 3.69 (3.24/3.92) 40
6. Paul Hastings 3.61 (3.29/4.01) 80
7. Weil Gotshal 3.57 (3.24/3.91) 40
8. Dechert 3.54 (3.16/3.90) 60
9. White & Case 3.57 (3.3.5/3.81) 40
10. Willkie Farr 3.56 (3.37/3.91) 40
11. Linklaters 3.49 (3.24/3.88) 40

Day 3.
1. Ropes & Gray 20
2. Clifford Chance 3.56 (3.24/3.92) 80
3. Cooley 3.40 (3.28/3.48) 20
4. Bryan Cave 3.25 (3.06/3.43) 20

Not sure who to add for day 2 and 3.

Any suggestions would be thoroughly appreciated.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby hephaestus » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:49 pm

tyrant_flycatcher wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Minor question, but how frowned upon is it to use Lawyering memos. The nature of my job is such that I may not be able to get a writing sample out of it due to confidentiality issues.


Piggybacking off of this, do firms expect us to bring a writing sample? I know White & Case wants us to have one for AJF, but I assumed they were an outlier.

First, it's really common to use a lawyering memo and a lot of people do it.

Second, yes have copies available. Most firms won't ask but a couple will. You don't need to bring one for every firm, carry like 3 a day in your folio.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby hephaestus » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:50 pm

Also, when does bidding close?

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Lavitz » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:10 am

ImNoScar wrote:Also, when does bidding close?

The 7th.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Lavitz » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:29 am

Anonymous User wrote:3.8131 (10%), did writing comp but don't believe I did stellar. I prefer transactional to litigation, but want a firm that does both. I am supposedly a good interviewee, I am somewhat risk averse, and I want NYC.

All NYC unless stated otherwise.

Day 1.
1. Latham 3.63 (3.45/3.88) 18
2. Gibson Dunn 3.80 (3.65/4.01) 20
3. Cravath 3.78 (3.62/4.01) 36
4. Cleary 3.87 (3.92/3.77) 40
5. Davis Polk 3.73 (3.24/4.01) 60
6. WilmerHale 3.62 (3.24/3.92) 40
7. Shearman 3.48 (3.02/3.77) 60
8. Cahill Gordon 3.44 (3.19/3.65) 60
9. Jones Day 3.55 (3.24/3.88) 40
10. Akin 3.64 (3.57/3.73) 40
11. Fried Frank 3.58 (3.35/3.78) 40
12. Milbank Tweed 3.60 (3.43/3.88) 20
13. Freshfields Bruckhaus 3.64 (3.43/3.92) 20
14. Proskauer Rose 3.55 (3.38/3.67) 20
15. Morrison & Foerster 3.58 (3.28/3.71) 20

You can swap Cravath and Wilmer. Or at least put Wilmer 3, Cravath 5, and DPW 6. In fact, I've heard you can get Cravath at 7, so if you wanted to risk it, I'd say put your choice of Jones Day/Cahill/Shearman 3, Wilmer 4, Cleary 5, DPW 6 and Cravath 7. Currently I don't think you're getting anything outside your top 6. Actually, Sullivan and Cromwell would be a good pick for 7 or 8. Not sure why it's not here.

Anonymous User wrote:Day 2. (not sure who to add)
1. Skadden 3.74 (3.43/4.01) 20
2. Paul Weiss 3.68 (3.24/4.01) 40
3. Kirkland Ellis 3.67 (3.42/3.91) 20
4. Simpson Thacher 3.73 (3.05/4.01) 60
5. Debevoise 3.69 (3.24/3.92) 40
6. Paul Hastings 3.61 (3.29/4.01) 80
7. Weil Gotshal 3.57 (3.24/3.91) 40
8. Dechert 3.54 (3.16/3.90) 60
9. White & Case 3.57 (3.3.5/3.81) 40
10. Willkie Farr 3.56 (3.37/3.91) 40
11. Linklaters 3.49 (3.24/3.88) 40

I've heard rumblings that PW should be #1, but #2 should be sufficient. Simpson and Debevoise can go lower, but I don't know what a good #4 firm would be. Maybe Dechert or White and Case, or Paul Hastings if you're worried about not getting it at 7 when you move everything down. You won't get Weil at 7. And at least flip Simpson and Debevoise if Debevoise has 60 screeners instead of 40. I keep seeing conflicting numbers.

Anonymous User wrote:Day 3.
1. Ropes & Gray 20
2. Clifford Chance 3.56 (3.24/3.92) 80
3. Cooley 3.40 (3.28/3.48) 20
4. Bryan Cave 3.25 (3.06/3.43) 20

Not sure who to add for day 2 and 3.

Any suggestions would be thoroughly appreciated.

Add whoever you want, but you probably won't get them unless you change the top 8. Maybe on Day 2 you could put Cadwalader at 8 and get it. If you're just asking for firms you can throw on the bottom and mail, add whoever you might want to work for. Maybe Sidley?

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:25 am

Interested in both lit and corporate, although at this point I can probably make a better argument for why I'd be good for lit than corporate.

Sitting on a 3.62 and only looking at NYC.

I'll take any and all feedback. Anyone think I'm aiming too high? Assume no LR.

Thanks in advance.

Monday

1. Latham / 18 Interview Slots / 3.63 Average GPA
2. Milbank / 20 / 3.6
3. Freshfields / 20 / 3.64
4. WilmerHale / 40 / 3.62
5. Shearman / 60 / 3.48
6. Pillsbury / 20 / No Data
7. Winston & Strawn / 40 / No Data
8. Davis Polk / 60 / 3.73

Tuesday

1. Sidley / 20 Interview Slots / 3.62 Average GPA
2. Weil / 40 / 3.57
3. Linklaters / 40 / 3.49
4. Willkie / 40 / 3.56
5. Cadwalader / 80 / 3.51
6. Paul Hastings / 80 / 3.61
7. Dechert / 60 / 3.54
8. Hughes Hubbard / 20 / No Data
9. Baker Botts / 20 / No Data
10. Alston & Bird / 20 / No Data
11. King & Spalding / 20 / No Data
12. Venable / 20 / No Data
13. O'Melveny & [deleted] / 20 / No Data
14. Arnold & Porter / 20 / No Data
15. Holland & Knight / 20 / 3.63

Wednesday

1. Clifford Chance / 80 Interview Slots / 3.56 Average GPA
2. Crowell and Moring / 20 / No Data
3. Dentons / 20 / No Data

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Lavitz » Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:40 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Interested in both lit and corporate, although at this point I can probably make a better argument for why I'd be good for lit than corporate.

Sitting on a 3.62 and only looking at NYC.

I'll take any and all feedback. Anyone think I'm aiming too high? Assume no LR.

Thanks in advance.

Monday

1. Latham / 18 Interview Slots / 3.63 Average GPA
2. Milbank / 20 / 3.6
3. Freshfields / 20 / 3.64
4. WilmerHale / 40 / 3.62
5. Shearman / 60 / 3.48
6. Pillsbury / 20 / No Data
7. Winston & Strawn / 40 / No Data
8. Davis Polk / 60 / 3.73

What else are you bidding? Where's Fried Frank, Jones Day, Akin Gump, Cahill, etc.?

I think Shearman and Wilmer should be flipped.

Anonymous User wrote:Tuesday

1. Sidley / 20 Interview Slots / 3.62 Average GPA
2. Weil / 40 / 3.57
3. Linklaters / 40 / 3.49
4. Willkie / 40 / 3.56
5. Cadwalader / 80 / 3.51
6. Paul Hastings / 80 / 3.61
7. Dechert / 60 / 3.54
8. Hughes Hubbard / 20 / No Data
9. Baker Botts / 20 / No Data
10. Alston & Bird / 20 / No Data
11. King & Spalding / 20 / No Data
12. Venable / 20 / No Data
13. O'Melveny & [deleted] / 20 / No Data
14. Arnold & Porter / 20 / No Data
15. Holland & Knight / 20 / 3.63

Willkie seems popular this year. I'd flip them with Linklaters. Cadwalader can go down further to 7 and you can bump up PH and Dechert.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jul 03, 2015 3:29 pm

Lavitz wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Interested in both lit and corporate, although at this point I can probably make a better argument for why I'd be good for lit than corporate.

Sitting on a 3.62 and only looking at NYC.

I'll take any and all feedback. Anyone think I'm aiming too high? Assume no LR.

Thanks in advance.

Monday

1. Latham / 18 Interview Slots / 3.63 Average GPA
2. Milbank / 20 / 3.6
3. Freshfields / 20 / 3.64
4. WilmerHale / 40 / 3.62
5. Shearman / 60 / 3.48
6. Pillsbury / 20 / No Data
7. Winston & Strawn / 40 / No Data
8. Davis Polk / 60 / 3.73

What else are you bidding? Where's Fried Frank, Jones Day, Akin Gump, Cahill, etc.?


Will tag those firms and others to the bottom of my list. Thanks for your comments.

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Re: Cornell 2015 AJF/BOJF/DCJF/OCI

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:14 pm

Hey, 3.59, NYC, leaning towards litigation but I don't really care that much. Thanks!

Monday

1. Latham 3.45 3.63 3.88 18/47 10
2. Fried Frank 3.35 3.58 3.78 40/41 39
3. Morrison & Foerster 3.28 3.58 3.71 20/11 22
4. Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy 3.43 3.60 3.88 20/43 37
5. Shearman 3.02 3.48 3.77 60/54 30
6. Jones Day 3.24 3.55 3.88 40/18 19
7. Akin Gump 3.57 3.64 3.73 40/12 29
8. Cahill 3.19 3.44 3.65 60/36 46
9. WilmerHale 3.24 3.62 3.92 ?/19 21
10. Schulte Roth & Zabel 3.29 3.46 3.75 40/35 79
11. Davis Polk 3.24 3.73 4.01 60/? 5
12. Freshfields Bruckhaus 3.43 3.64 3.92 20/24 48
13. Seward & Kissel 3.05 3.49 3.97 20/17
14. Proskauer Rose 3.38 3.55 3.67 20/39 36
15. Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman 3.34 3.58 3.85 20/12 60
16. Stroock Stroock & Lavan 3.15 3.28 3.39 20/?

Tuesday

1. Paul, Weiss 3.24 3.68 4.01 40/128 14
2. Weil, Gotshal & Manges 3.24 3.57 3.91 40/46 9
3. White & Case 3.35 3.57 3.81 40/34 20
4. Sidley Austin 3.43 3.62 3.91 20/28 17
5. Debevoise 3.24 3.69 3.92 60/66 16
6. Willkie Farr 3.37 3.56 3.91 40/68 49
7. Paul Hastings 3.29 3.61 4.01 80/? 24
8. Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft 3.21 3.51 3.81 80/25 31
9. Hogan Lovells 3.38 3.45 3.65 40/11 33
10. Dechert 3.16 3.54 3.90 60/24 55
11. Linklaters 3.24 3.49 3.88 40/20 37
12. Kirkland & Ellis 3.42 3.67 3.91 20/54 7
13. Simpson Thatcher 3.05 3.73 4.01 60/93 6
14. Wilson Sonsini Goodrich 3.25 3.53 3.81 40/? 51
15. King & Spalding ?/8
16. Hughes Hubbard ?/20
17. K&L Gates 3.43 3.57 3.67 20/5 47
18. Kaye Scholer 3.24 3.35 3.48 20/14


Wednesday

1. Clifford Chance 3.24 3.56 3.92 80/22 27
2. Cooley 3.28 3.40 3.48 20/5 45
3. Perkins Coie 1
4. Ropes & Gray 3.6 3.8 4.03 20/45 23
5. Bryan Cave 3.06 3.25 3.43 ?/3 71
6. Crowell & Moring 20/2 65
7. Dentons 20/7 80




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