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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby MT Cicero » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:14 pm

Anonymous User wrote:3.7, strongly prefer litigation, only applying in Chicago (I know, I know). non-LR journal

1. Jenner
2. Kirkland
3. Sidley
4. Latham
5. Greenberg Traurig
6. Jones Day
7. Katten
8. Morgan Lewis
9. DLA Piper
10. Baker & Mackenzie
11. Miller Shakman & Beem
12. Barack Ferrazano
13. Mayer Brown
14. Skadden
15. Reed Smith
16. Dykemma
17. Winston
18. Michael Best
19. Edelson
20. Paul Hastings
21. Eimer Stahl
22. Perkins Coie
23. Foley
24. Quarles
25. Bryan Cave
26. Holland Knight
27. Donohue Brown
28. McDermott WIll & Emery
29. Schiff Harden
30. McGuireWoods


Just wanted to make sure you saw Paul Hastings's hiring criteria, which states they are hiring for all practice areas except litigation (which they have in all caps).

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:36 pm

After our interviews are released and we attempt to contact the firms we bid on but didn't receive, may we attach a resume with our gpa in an attempt to pick up an extra screener?

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby BaberhamLincoln » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:06 pm

maybe a dumb question but i uploaded my resume and now im putting in my bids. there's nothing i need to click to confirm, right? I just need to put the right number next to the right firm and then by 3pm tomorrow it will effectively submit?

PLIP was a little different, so I wanted to ask to be sure

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby MT Cicero » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:11 pm

BaberhamLincoln wrote:maybe a dumb question but i uploaded my resume and now im putting in my bids. there's nothing i need to click to confirm, right? I just need to put the right number next to the right firm and then by 3pm tomorrow it will effectively submit?

PLIP was a little different, so I wanted to ask to be sure


Correct...there's nothing you need to click and confirm. They're auto-saved. Just for a warm fuzzy, log out and back into Symplicity and click OCI. Your firms should appear in bid order when you scroll down.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby furrrman » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:16 pm

Why does the site give you an extra interview spot when you add different offices of the same firm that only allow you to bid on one office?

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby BaberhamLincoln » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:23 pm

Thanks MT

Is it crazy to not use all your bids? I have 14 interviews at PLIP and waiting on hearing about my 1L SA - I feel like I'm just going to be bidding just for the sake of bidding (past spot 20)

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby franklyscarlet » Sun Jul 26, 2015 1:27 pm

BaberhamLincoln wrote:Thanks MT

Is it crazy to not use all your bids? I have 14 interviews at PLIP and waiting on hearing about my 1L SA - I feel like I'm just going to be bidding just for the sake of bidding (past spot 20)



Yes. Use them all, you never know. Now is not laurel resting time.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:14 pm

What's the chance I miss out on any of these at the current spots I put them in?

10 Weil 60
11 Shearman 40
12 Fried Frank 40
13 STB 40
14 Wilkie Farr 40
15 Paul Weiss 40

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby moneyball026 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:34 pm

Anonymous User wrote:What's the chance I miss out on any of these at the current spots I put them in?

10 Weil 60
11 Shearman 40
12 Fried Frank 40
13 STB 40
14 Wilkie Farr 40
15 Paul Weiss 40

Weil: low
Shearman: very low
Fried frank: low
Simpson: medium
Willkie: low
Paul Weiss: medium

Very Low does not equal 0.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby helpappreciated » Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:07 pm

moneyball026 wrote:
helpappreciated wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let's get rid of cravath, Davis Polk, and Simpson entirely. Move up fried frank to 8-10. Move up jones day to 15-20. Move up Allen and overy to top 20. Vinson to top 30. Omelv to top 30. Clifford chance to top 18 (give yourself a real Clifford chance to get an interview there. Get it?). Dechert to top 5 (you can even say there that you want a Cali office because a lot of people bidding them would want NY and you could stand out, but also say you are open to New York with them for sure).

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATED list (Firm - City - Interview Slots - 2015 NALP Summer Associates)

    1 Alston & Bird NY 20*(4 offices)/7
    2 Baker Botts NY 40*(6 offices)/9
    3 Dechert NY 20*(6 offices)/24
    4 Proskauer NY 20/39
    5 Cahill NY 20/36
    6 Schulte NY 20/35
    7 Sidley NY 20/28
    8 Kaye Scholer NY 20/14
    9 Freshfields NY 20/24
    10 Fried Frank NY 40/41
    11 Seward And Kissel NY 20/17
    12 Willkie Farr NY 40/68
    13 Weil NY 60/46
    14 Shearman NY 40/54
    15 Clifford Chance Us NY 20/22
    16 Jones Day NY 20/18
    17 Milbank Tweed NY 40/43
    18 Cadwalader NY 40/25
    19 Paul Weiss NY 40/128
    20 Allen & Overy NY 20*(4 offices)/??
    21 Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati  NY 40/??
    22 Cooley NY 40/5
    23 White & Case NY 20/34
    24 Kirkland NY 20/54
    25 Wilmerhale NY 20/19
    26 O'Melveny & [deleted]  NY 20*(2 offices)/16
    27 Vinson & Elkins  NY 20*(5 offices)/5
    28 Jenner Block NY 20/7
    29 Paul Hastings NY 20/4
    30 Latham & Watkins NY 19/47
    31 Mayer Brown NY 20/18
    32 Skadden NY 20/108
    33 Winston & Strawn NY 20*(6 offices)/15
    34 Reed Smith NY 20*(4 offices)/9
    35 Baker & Mckenzie NY 20*(6 offices)/4
    36 Gunderson Dettmer NY 20*(3 offices)/4
    37 Foley & Lardner NY 20*(14 offices)/3
    38
    39
    40


    Any more suggestions? And what three firms should I add to get to 40?
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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby SA2014 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 5:37 pm

helpappreciated wrote:
moneyball026 wrote:
helpappreciated wrote:3.00, URM, from California.
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Let's get rid of cravath, Davis Polk, and Simpson entirely. Move up fried frank to 8-10. Move up jones day to 15-20. Move up Allen and overy to top 20. Vinson to top 30. Omelv to top 30. Clifford chance to top 18 (give yourself a real Clifford chance to get an interview there. Get it?). Dechert to top 5 (you can even say there that you want a Cali office because a lot of people bidding them would want NY and you could stand out, but also say you are open to New York with them for sure).

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATED list (Firm - City - Interview Slots - 2015 NALP Summer Associates)

    1 Alston & Bird NY 20*(4 offices)/7
    2 Baker Botts NY 40*(6 offices)/9
    3 Dechert NY 20*(6 offices)/24
    4 Proskauer NY 20/39
    5 Cahill NY 20/36
    6 Schulte NY 20/35
    7 Sidley NY 20/28
    8 Kaye Scholer NY 20/14
    9 Freshfields NY 20/24
    10 Fried Frank NY 40/41
    11 Seward And Kissel NY 20/17
    12 Willkie Farr NY 40/68
    13 Weil NY 60/46
    14 Shearman NY 40/54
    15 Clifford Chance Us NY 20/22
    16 Jones Day NY 20/18
    17 Milbank Tweed NY 40/43
    18 Cadwalader NY 40/25
    19 Paul Weiss NY 40/128
    20 Allen & Overy NY 20*(4 offices)/??
    21 Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati  NY 40/??
    22 Cooley NY 40/5
    23 White & Case NY 20/34
    24 Kirkland NY 20/54
    25 Wilmerhale NY 20/19
    26 O'Melveny & [deleted]  NY 20*(2 offices)/16
    27 Vinson & Elkins  NY 20*(5 offices)/5
    28 Jenner Block NY 20/7
    29 Paul Hastings NY 20/4
    30 Latham & Watkins NY 19/47
    31 Mayer Brown NY 20/18
    32 Skadden NY 20/108
    33 Winston & Strawn NY 20*(6 offices)/15
    34 Reed Smith NY 20*(4 offices)/9
    35 Baker & Mckenzie NY 20*(6 offices)/4
    36 Gunderson Dettmer NY 20*(3 offices)/4
    37 Foley & Lardner NY 20*(14 offices)/3
    38
    39
    40


    Any more suggestions? And what three firms should I add to get to 40?

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby moneyball026 » Sun Jul 26, 2015 6:54 pm

SA2014 wrote:
helpappreciated wrote:
moneyball026 wrote:
helpappreciated wrote:3.00, URM, from California.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let's get rid of cravath, Davis Polk, and Simpson entirely. Move up fried frank to 8-10. Move up jones day to 15-20. Move up Allen and overy to top 20. Vinson to top 30. Omelv to top 30. Clifford chance to top 18 (give yourself a real Clifford chance to get an interview there. Get it?). Dechert to top 5 (you can even say there that you want a Cali office because a lot of people bidding them would want NY and you could stand out, but also say you are open to New York with them for sure).

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UPDATED list (Firm - City - Interview Slots - 2015 NALP Summer Associates)

    1 Alston & Bird NY 20*(4 offices)/7
    2 Baker Botts NY 40*(6 offices)/9
    3 Dechert NY 20*(6 offices)/24
    4 Proskauer NY 20/39
    5 Cahill NY 20/36
    6 Schulte NY 20/35
    7 Sidley NY 20/28
    8 Kaye Scholer NY 20/14
    9 Freshfields NY 20/24
    10 Fried Frank NY 40/41
    11 Seward And Kissel NY 20/17
    12 Willkie Farr NY 40/68
    13 Weil NY 60/46
    14 Shearman NY 40/54
    15 Clifford Chance Us NY 20/22
    16 Jones Day NY 20/18
    17 Milbank Tweed NY 40/43
    18 Cadwalader NY 40/25
    19 Paul Weiss NY 40/128
    20 Allen & Overy NY 20*(4 offices)/??
    21 Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati  NY 40/??
    22 Cooley NY 40/5
    23 White & Case NY 20/34
    24 Kirkland NY 20/54
    25 Wilmerhale NY 20/19
    26 O'Melveny & [deleted]  NY 20*(2 offices)/16
    27 Vinson & Elkins  NY 20*(5 offices)/5
    28 Jenner Block NY 20/7
    29 Paul Hastings NY 20/4
    30 Latham & Watkins NY 19/47
    31 Mayer Brown NY 20/18
    32 Skadden NY 20/108
    33 Winston & Strawn NY 20*(6 offices)/15
    34 Reed Smith NY 20*(4 offices)/9
    35 Baker & Mckenzie NY 20*(6 offices)/4
    36 Gunderson Dettmer NY 20*(3 offices)/4
    37 Foley & Lardner NY 20*(14 offices)/3
    38
    39
    40


    Any more suggestions? And what three firms should I add to get to 40?


move:
Kaye up 1
switch Sidley with Weil
Where's Linklaters? They should be in top 10
Also, isn't Chadbourne coming?


I think 7 is a little much for Weil. Top 12 should be fine, 10 should be a near lock. As for the last few bids see my advice a few posts up about secondary markets.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby helpappreciated » Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:19 pm

moneyball026 wrote:
SA2014 wrote:
helpappreciated wrote:
moneyball026 wrote:
helpappreciated wrote:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let's get rid of cravath, Davis Polk, and Simpson entirely. Move up fried frank to 8-10. Move up jones day to 15-20. Move up Allen and overy to top 20. Vinson to top 30. Omelv to top 30. Clifford chance to top 18 (give yourself a real Clifford chance to get an interview there. Get it?). Dechert to top 5 (you can even say there that you want a Cali office because a lot of people bidding them would want NY and you could stand out, but also say you are open to New York with them for sure).

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
move:
Kaye up 1
switch Sidley with Weil
Where's Linklaters? They should be in top 10
Also, isn't Chadbourne coming?


I think 7 is a little much for Weil. Top 12 should be fine, 10 should be a near lock. As for the last few bids see my advice a few posts up about secondary markets.


UPDATED list (Firm - City - Interview Slots - 2015 NALP Summer Associates)
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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Cobretti » Sun Jul 26, 2015 8:54 pm

moneyball026 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:What's the chance I miss out on any of these at the current spots I put them in?

10 Weil 60
11 Shearman 40
12 Fried Frank 40
13 STB 40
14 Wilkie Farr 40
15 Paul Weiss 40

Weil: low
Shearman: very low
Fried frank: low
Simpson: medium
Willkie: low
Paul Weiss: medium

Very Low does not equal 0.

Agree that you are probably good with all of them, but just wanted to add I got stb last year as my 16 seed

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Sun Jul 26, 2015 10:54 pm

Last minute suggestions please!

3.48

1. Dykema Chicago
2. Katten Chicago
3. K&L Chicago
4. Schiff Chicago
5. McGuirreWoods Chicago
6. Sidley Chicago
7. Kirkland Chicago
8. Prokauser NYC
9. Freshfields NYC
10. Weil NYC
11. Cahill NYC
12. Shearman NYC
13. Alston & Bird NYC
14. Clifford Chnace NYC
15. Locke Lorde Chicago
16. McDermont Chicago
17. Fried Frank Chicago
18. Allen and Overy NYC
19. Dechert Chicago
20 Ropes & Gray Chicago
21 Milbank Tweed NYC
22. Drinkler Biddle Chicago
23. Davis Polk NYC
24. Simpson NYC
25. Wilkie Farr NYC
26. White & Case Miami
27. O'Melvany NYC
28 Stearns Weaver Miami
29 Greenberg Taurig Chicago
30. Kaye Scholer NYC
31 Edelson Chicago
32 Bryan Cave Chicago
33. Winston NYC
34. Vedder Price Chicago
35. Foley & Lardner Chicago
36. Skadden Chicago
37.Latham Chicago
38. Paul Hastings Chicago
39. Mayer Brown Chicago
40. Quarles & Brady Chicago

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby personofinterest » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:13 am

Impatient incoming 2L here. How long after tomorrow's deadline do we have to wait to find out which firms we get to interview with?

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby snapdragon25 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:01 am

personofinterest wrote:Impatient incoming 2L here. How long after tomorrow's deadline do we have to wait to find out which firms we get to interview with?


Interview schedules will be released on 8/3. Looking at last year's OCI thread it looks like they were released at noon last year.

https://careerspace.law.northwestern.ed ... u8yg3m.pdf

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:58 am

A whole week?

(groans)

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby moneyball026 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:12 am

Anonymous User wrote:A whole week?

(groans)

IIRC, the interviews popped up randomly on a Friday.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 27, 2015 12:58 pm

just got an email about law review sponsors, asking us to consider bidding for them. i wasn't planning on bidding on any of the three mentioned (mayer brown, Debevoise, or gibson dunn) because my gpa (3.15) is way lower than the minimum on the callback data sheet. do you think it would be worthwhile to bid on them anyways? is there a special bump because they are our sponsors?

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Cobretti » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:just got an email about law review sponsors, asking us to consider bidding for them. i wasn't planning on bidding on any of the three mentioned (mayer brown, Debevoise, or gibson dunn) because my gpa (3.15) is way lower than the minimum on the callback data sheet. do you think it would be worthwhile to bid on them anyways? is there a special bump because they are our sponsors?

LR is a bump, but you have a very unique situation and I don't know if anyone is really going to be able to tell you what to do. There just aren't many data points with your GPA + LR. My gut tells me you should probably just bid like you are at median, but that's not based on anything substantive.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby moneyball026 » Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:33 pm

Cobretti wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:just got an email about law review sponsors, asking us to consider bidding for them. i wasn't planning on bidding on any of the three mentioned (mayer brown, Debevoise, or gibson dunn) because my gpa (3.15) is way lower than the minimum on the callback data sheet. do you think it would be worthwhile to bid on them anyways? is there a special bump because they are our sponsors?

LR is a bump, but you have a very unique situation and I don't know if anyone is really going to be able to tell you what to do. There just aren't many data points with your GPA + LR. My gut tells me you should probably just bid like you are at median, but that's not based on anything substantive.

^i would agree with cobretti. FWIW, LR sponsors = marketing. they dont partner with LR at all.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby furrrman » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:53 pm

furrrman wrote:Why does the site give you an extra interview spot when you add different offices of the same firm that only allow you to bid on one office?


Anyone have an answer to this? I'm really curious why I get more than 40 interview slots when I do this, and how it gets handled by the system.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:44 pm

moneyball026 wrote:
Cobretti wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:just got an email about law review sponsors, asking us to consider bidding for them. i wasn't planning on bidding on any of the three mentioned (mayer brown, Debevoise, or gibson dunn) because my gpa (3.15) is way lower than the minimum on the callback data sheet. do you think it would be worthwhile to bid on them anyways? is there a special bump because they are our sponsors?

LR is a bump, but you have a very unique situation and I don't know if anyone is really going to be able to tell you what to do. There just aren't many data points with your GPA + LR. My gut tells me you should probably just bid like you are at median, but that's not based on anything substantive.

^i would agree with cobretti. FWIW, LR sponsors = marketing. they dont partner with LR at all.


great! thanks for your answers! I'm thinking that I'm just going to keep my bids the way they are haha if there is no extra boost for them being our sponsors (outside of the LR boost) then I don't think it's worthwhile to change my whole bid list at this point.

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