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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Cobretti » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:17 am

Slow Your Roll wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:3.7, transactional, want Chicago but open to NY. Anything stick out?

1. Sidley
2. Kirkland
3. Katten
4. Mayer
5. Latham
6. Baker & McKenzie
7. Milbank NY
8. Gibson Dunn NY
9. Weil NY
10. Paul Weiss NY
11. Greenberg
12. Morgan Lewis
13. Cahill NY
14. Davis Polk NY
15. Winston Strawn
16. Perkins Coi
17. McDermott
18. McGuire
19. Schiff
20. Drinker
21. Shearman NY
22. Proskauer NY
23. Fried Frank NY
24. Holland/Knight NY
25. Seyfarth


Depends on the year, but Kirkland, Sidley, and Latham all normally go 8 or higher. With some years that being over 10. They want around top 20 percent which doesn't leave a huge portion of the class. I would move some of the other Chicago firms with smaller class sizes way higher and move those elite firms down. For example, you'll never get Schiff or McGuire at 18/19.

Conventional wisdom is 3.5+ is in play at Kirkland and Sidley, they don't require top 20% grades.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Cobretti » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:19 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Preliminary bid list. Transfer student, 3.83/4.00, top 2-3% at T2. Hoping for litigation. Want Chicago, but would go NYC over nothing. Does anyone have thoughts or advice?

1. Winston & Strawn
2. Jones Day
3. Sidley
4. Baker McKenzie
5. Kirkland
6. McGuire Woods
7. Katten
8. Greenberg
9. Vedder Price
10. Davis Polk (NY)
11. Dykema
12. Dentons
13. Skadden
14. Jenner & Block
15. McDermott
16. Reed Smith
17. Chapman
18. Latham
19. Ropes & Gray
20. Proskauer (NY)
21. Sidley (NY)
22. DLA Piper
23. Paul Hastings (NY)
24. Quarles & Brady
25. Cahill (NY)
26. Holland & Knight
27. Perkins Coie
28. Seyfarth Shaw
29. Kaye Schoeler (NY)
30. Michael Best
31. Shook hardy
32. Weil (NY)
33. Winston & Strong (NY)
34. Foley (NY)
35. Bryan Cave
36. Schulte (NY)
37. Barack
38. Skadden (NY)
39. Latham (NY)
40. ?


Like the above poster said, move Sidley and Kirkland down (you'll still get bids there), in favor of maybe a DLA or Reed Smith. You can get those two firms (with 80 slots each) much lower than 3 and 5.

+1 and move Jenner up too.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Cobretti » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:21 am

furrrman wrote:This may be a dumb question but is the NALP data considered accurate? Specifically I'm looking at the # of partners and associates in practice areas for different firms.

Things happen and people leave/lateral in, but I think the firms give them the numbers so it's generally accurate.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Cobretti » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:38 am

Anonymous User wrote:updated bidlist. transfer student, 3.52 from earlier (transactional; all chi/nyc). took advice from everyone who gave it (thank you so f'n much btw. yall can't imagine how grateful i am)

going in, i thought i would heavily bid chicago and spray a few nyc firms in between. but the more i look at this the more nyc focused i get. nyc hires so many more people than chicago that bidding heavily chicago without a high enough gpa seems so damn risky. however, I'm really worried about how NY firms would view me since I'm a transfer from a school they don't usually hire from.

NUM FIRM SLOTS # (NALP)
1 Baker & Mckenzie (CHI) 20 14
2 Katten (CHI) 40 15
3 White & Case 20 34
4 Proskauer 20 39
5 Cahill 20 36
6 Schiff Hardin (CHI) 80 16
7 Chapman (CHI) 20 6
8 Milbank Tweed 40 43
9 Fried Frank 40 41
10 Shearman 40 54
11 Paul Weiss 40 128
12 Weil 60 46
13 Schulte 20 35
14 Wilkie Farr 40 68
15 Cadwalader 40 25
16 Simpson Thatcher 40 93

17 Seward & Kissel 20 17
18 Davis Polk 20 134
19 Cravath 36 100
20 Michael Best (CHI) 20 6

- looking at the 2013/14 threads, I feel pretty good about getting 1-9 (although which firms would be TOTAL overkill?).

- 10-16 is where I'm really worried for two reasons. 1. would i miss any if i rank them like this?; 2. do i even have a shot at getting callbacks?

- 17-20 i tried putting the more selective firms (dpw/cravath) as well as an unknown firm (best); don't know why i put seward at 17

- 21-40 what should i do here? i really want to put firms i actually have a shot at getting interviews but have no idea what strategy to use (any advice is appreciated)

I think this looks solid, and l specifically think your 10-16 look well chosen.

As far as after 21, if you have a secondary market you have ties to you can try throwing some bids there as a backup.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby moneyball026 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:50 am

Cobretti wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:updated bidlist. transfer student, 3.52 from earlier (transactional; all chi/nyc). took advice from everyone who gave it (thank you so f'n much btw. yall can't imagine how grateful i am)

going in, i thought i would heavily bid chicago and spray a few nyc firms in between. but the more i look at this the more nyc focused i get. nyc hires so many more people than chicago that bidding heavily chicago without a high enough gpa seems so damn risky. however, I'm really worried about how NY firms would view me since I'm a transfer from a school they don't usually hire from.

NUM FIRM SLOTS # (NALP)
1 Baker & Mckenzie (CHI) 20 14
2 Katten (CHI) 40 15
3 White & Case 20 34
4 Proskauer 20 39
5 Cahill 20 36
6 Schiff Hardin (CHI) 80 16
7 Chapman (CHI) 20 6
8 Milbank Tweed 40 43
9 Fried Frank 40 41
10 Shearman 40 54
11 Paul Weiss 40 128
12 Weil 60 46
13 Schulte 20 35
14 Wilkie Farr 40 68
15 Cadwalader 40 25
16 Simpson Thatcher 40 93

17 Seward & Kissel 20 17
18 Davis Polk 20 134
19 Cravath 36 100
20 Michael Best (CHI) 20 6

- looking at the 2013/14 threads, I feel pretty good about getting 1-9 (although which firms would be TOTAL overkill?).

- 10-16 is where I'm really worried for two reasons. 1. would i miss any if i rank them like this?; 2. do i even have a shot at getting callbacks?

- 17-20 i tried putting the more selective firms (dpw/cravath) as well as an unknown firm (best); don't know why i put seward at 17

- 21-40 what should i do here? i really want to put firms i actually have a shot at getting interviews but have no idea what strategy to use (any advice is appreciated)

I think this looks solid, and l specifically think your 10-16 look well chosen.

As far as after 21, if you have a secondary market you have ties to you can try throwing some bids there as a backup.

agree with cobretti about secondary market but i would think about starting secondary bidding at 18 - or at the very least i think DPW and Cravath are out of play for you unless your resume is golden. or if not secondary markets, maybe add in cleary and/or latham/skadden (those 2 though would need to go top 5)

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:53 am

3.3x, targeting only Chicago (I know, I know), any insight? I tried to mix some lower gpa firms with firms I thought would go fast in my top 10 which might be stupid. Criticism greatly appreciated.

Dentons
Quarles & Brady
McGuirewoods
Vedder Price Kaufman & Kammholz
Katten Muchin Rosenman
Dykema Gosset
Foley Lardner
Schiff Hardin
Kirkland & Ellis
Faegre Baker Daniels
Chapman & Cutler
Barack Ferrazzano Kirshbaum & Nagleberg
K&L Gates
McDermott Will & Emery
Paul Hastings
Dechert
Mayer Brown
Pircher Nichols & Meeks
Reed Smith
Clark Hill
Ropes & Grey
Polsinelli
Taft Stettinus & Hollister
Thompson Coburn
Baker & McKenzie
DLA Piper
Nicholaides Fink Thorpe Michaelides Sullivan
Locke Lorde Bissel & Liddel
Drinker Biddle & Reath
Jones Day
Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton
Jenner & Block
Morgan Lewis & Blockius
Winston & Strawn
Sidley Austin
Greenberg Traurig
Shook Hardy & Bacon
Perkins Coie
Eimer Stahl
Holland & Knight LLP


Bumping this, no advice?

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby BaberhamLincoln » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:13 pm

Almost at the point where I'll pay someone to make me a bid list

Talked to my career counselor yesterday and just feeling overwhelmed as a transfer

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Cobretti » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:52 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
3.3x, targeting only Chicago (I know, I know), any insight? I tried to mix some lower gpa firms with firms I thought would go fast in my top 10 which might be stupid. Criticism greatly appreciated.

Dentons
Quarles & Brady
McGuirewoods
Vedder Price Kaufman & Kammholz
Katten Muchin Rosenman
Dykema Gosset
Foley Lardner
Schiff Hardin
Kirkland & Ellis
Faegre Baker Daniels
Chapman & Cutler
Barack Ferrazzano Kirshbaum & Nagleberg
K&L Gates
McDermott Will & Emery
Paul Hastings
Dechert
Mayer Brown
Pircher Nichols & Meeks
Reed Smith
Clark Hill
Ropes & Grey
Polsinelli
Taft Stettinus & Hollister
Thompson Coburn
Baker & McKenzie
DLA Piper
Nicholaides Fink Thorpe Michaelides Sullivan
Locke Lorde Bissel & Liddel
Drinker Biddle & Reath
Jones Day
Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton
Jenner & Block
Morgan Lewis & Blockius
Winston & Strawn
Sidley Austin
Greenberg Traurig
Shook Hardy & Bacon
Perkins Coie
Eimer Stahl
Holland & Knight LLP


Bumping this, no advice?

Don't bid only Chicago at median

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:38 pm

Cobretti wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
3.3x, targeting only Chicago (I know, I know), any insight? I tried to mix some lower gpa firms with firms I thought would go fast in my top 10 which might be stupid. Criticism greatly appreciated.

Dentons
Quarles & Brady
McGuirewoods
Vedder Price Kaufman & Kammholz
Katten Muchin Rosenman
Dykema Gosset
Foley Lardner
Schiff Hardin
Kirkland & Ellis
Faegre Baker Daniels
Chapman & Cutler
Barack Ferrazzano Kirshbaum & Nagleberg
K&L Gates
McDermott Will & Emery
Paul Hastings
Dechert
Mayer Brown
Pircher Nichols & Meeks
Reed Smith
Clark Hill
Ropes & Grey
Polsinelli
Taft Stettinus & Hollister
Thompson Coburn
Baker & McKenzie
DLA Piper
Nicholaides Fink Thorpe Michaelides Sullivan
Locke Lorde Bissel & Liddel
Drinker Biddle & Reath
Jones Day
Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton
Jenner & Block
Morgan Lewis & Blockius
Winston & Strawn
Sidley Austin
Greenberg Traurig
Shook Hardy & Bacon
Perkins Coie
Eimer Stahl
Holland & Knight LLP


Bumping this, no advice?

Don't bid only Chicago at median


This. I struck out at OCI, but was super lucky to get a job through mass mailing (literally got one offer). I don't want to be too harsh and ultimately you'll do what you want to do, but the only thing worse than striking out at OCI is knowing that you struck out because of your own stupidity or ignorance. Chicago is hard as fuck to get for most students; it's gonna be damn near impossible for you.

EDIT: Re-read my post. It came off way more dick-ish than I intended, sorry. I would just hate to see a fellow student strike out the way I did -- or at least place himself/herself at a high risk of striking out -- when that high risk is, at least somewhat, mitigable. Regardless of whether you decide to listen to Cobretti or me, good luck!

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:48 pm

How much of a boost would being latino be during OCI? In particular would one of the bigger firms like Kirkland or Sidley be more willing to give you a little bit of a boost to make themselves look more diverse?

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:50 pm

Want to do transactional in NYC or Chicago with 3.59x. what do you guys think

[list=]
1. Skadden NY 20
2. White and Case (NYC) 20
3. Skadden Chi 60
4. Freshfeilds nyc 20
5. Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP nyc 40
6. Kirkland Ellis chi 80
7. Latham (Chi) 76
8. Paul Hastings nyc 20
9. Ropes Grey nyc 40
10. Schiff chi 80
11. Baker McKenzie chi 20
12. Clifford Chance nyc 20
[/list]

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:09 pm

Transfer student that is new to this process. I am currently trying to look at the document on Symplicity titled "Callbacks by GPA for 2012-2014." Once I clicked on the document it asked me for a password. Should I have this password somewhere/ has anyone else had this problem?

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Mullens » Tue Jul 21, 2015 7:28 pm

You should be able to view it in your web browser. It works for me in Chrome. If that still doesn't work, PM me and i'll email something to you.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Slow Your Roll » Tue Jul 21, 2015 9:33 pm

Cobretti wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Preliminary bid list. Transfer student, 3.83/4.00, top 2-3% at T2. Hoping for litigation. Want Chicago, but would go NYC over nothing. Does anyone have thoughts or advice?

1. Winston & Strawn
2. Jones Day
3. Sidley
4. Baker McKenzie
5. Kirkland
6. McGuire Woods
7. Katten
8. Greenberg
9. Vedder Price
10. Davis Polk (NY)
11. Dykema
12. Dentons
13. Skadden
14. Jenner & Block
15. McDermott
16. Reed Smith
17. Chapman
18. Latham
19. Ropes & Gray
20. Proskauer (NY)
21. Sidley (NY)
22. DLA Piper
23. Paul Hastings (NY)
24. Quarles & Brady
25. Cahill (NY)
26. Holland & Knight
27. Perkins Coie
28. Seyfarth Shaw
29. Kaye Schoeler (NY)
30. Michael Best
31. Shook hardy
32. Weil (NY)
33. Winston & Strong (NY)
34. Foley (NY)
35. Bryan Cave
36. Schulte (NY)
37. Barack
38. Skadden (NY)
39. Latham (NY)
40. ?


Like the above poster said, move Sidley and Kirkland down (you'll still get bids there), in favor of maybe a DLA or Reed Smith. You can get those two firms (with 80 slots each) much lower than 3 and 5.

+1 and move Jenner up too.


+2 Agreed with all of this.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:03 pm

3.7, leaning towards lit. NY is my primary market, but I'm also bidding Chicago. I realize I won't get a lot of my lower bids, but I want to use all 40. Anyone have suggestions for maximizing # of screeners?

1 Skadden New York
2 Cleary Gottlieb New York
3 Simpson Thacher New York
4 Latham & Watkins New York
5 Kirkland & Ellis Chicago
6 Sidley Austin Chicago
7 White & Case New York
8 Paul Weiss New York
9 Jenner & Block Chicago
10 Weil Gotshal New York
11 Paul Hastings New York
12 Debevoise & Plimpton New York
13 Sullivan & Cromwell New York
14 Cravath New York
15 Davis Polk New York
16 Sidley Austin New York
17 Skadden Chicago
18 Allen & Overy New York
19 Freshfields Bruckhaus New York
20 Clifford Chance New York
21 Baker & McKenzie Chicago
22 Katten Muchin Chicago
23 Winston & Strawn Chicago
24 Dechert New York
25 Cooley New York
26 Cahill Gordon & Reindel New York
27 Baker Botts New York
28 Cadwalader New York
29 Kaye Scholer New York
30 Milbank New York
31 Morrison & Foerster New York
32 O'Melveny & [deleted] New York
33 Proskauer New York
34 Ropes & Gray New York
35 Schulte Roth & Zabel New York
36 Wilmerhale New York
37 Shearman & Sterling New York
38 Schiff Hardin Chicago
39 DLA Piper Chicago
40 Mayer Brown Chicago

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby moneyball026 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:16 am

Anonymous User wrote:3.7, leaning towards lit. NY is my primary market, but I'm also bidding Chicago. I realize I won't get a lot of my lower bids, but I want to use all 40. Anyone have suggestions for maximizing # of screeners?

1 Skadden New York
2 Cleary Gottlieb New York
3 Simpson Thacher New York
4 Latham & Watkins New York
5 Kirkland & Ellis Chicago
6 Sidley Austin Chicago
7 White & Case New York
8 Paul Weiss New York
9 Jenner & Block Chicago
10 Weil Gotshal New York
11 Paul Hastings New York
12 Debevoise & Plimpton New York
13 Sullivan & Cromwell New York
14 Cravath New York
15 Davis Polk New York
16 Sidley Austin New York
17 Skadden Chicago
18 Allen & Overy New York
19 Freshfields Bruckhaus New York
20 Clifford Chance New York
21 Baker & McKenzie Chicago
22 Katten Muchin Chicago
23 Winston & Strawn Chicago
24 Dechert New York
25 Cooley New York
26 Cahill Gordon & Reindel New York
27 Baker Botts New York
28 Cadwalader New York
29 Kaye Scholer New York
30 Milbank New York
31 Morrison & Foerster New York
32 O'Melveny & [deleted] New York
33 Proskauer New York
34 Ropes & Gray New York
35 Schulte Roth & Zabel New York
36 Wilmerhale New York
37 Shearman & Sterling New York
38 Schiff Hardin Chicago
39 DLA Piper Chicago
40 Mayer Brown Chicago


Move Debevoise up to top 5, you can move cleary/simpson down a bit. think about putting a safety firm in the top ten, maybe omelveny or paul hastings, both have 20 spots and lower medians (though you shouldnt have trouble securing a NY offer with those numbers). normally id say move down paul weiss but because you want lit, it seems like a nice final landing spot/target for you so play it safe with that one.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby cookiejar1 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:41 am

Anonymous User wrote:3.7, leaning towards lit. NY is my primary market, but I'm also bidding Chicago. I realize I won't get a lot of my lower bids, but I want to use all 40. Anyone have suggestions for maximizing # of screeners?

1 Skadden New York
2 Cleary Gottlieb New York
3 Simpson Thacher New York
4 Latham & Watkins New York
5 Kirkland & Ellis Chicago
6 Sidley Austin Chicago
7 White & Case New York
8 Paul Weiss New York
9 Jenner & Block Chicago
10 Weil Gotshal New York
11 Paul Hastings New York
12 Debevoise & Plimpton New York
13 Sullivan & Cromwell New York
14 Cravath New York
15 Davis Polk New York
16 Sidley Austin New York
17 Skadden Chicago
18 Allen & Overy New York
19 Freshfields Bruckhaus New York
20 Clifford Chance New York
21 Baker & McKenzie Chicago
22 Katten Muchin Chicago
23 Winston & Strawn Chicago
24 Dechert New York
25 Cooley New York
26 Cahill Gordon & Reindel New York
27 Baker Botts New York
28 Cadwalader New York
29 Kaye Scholer New York
30 Milbank New York
31 Morrison & Foerster New York
32 O'Melveny & [deleted] New York
33 Proskauer New York
34 Ropes & Gray New York
35 Schulte Roth & Zabel New York
36 Wilmerhale New York
37 Shearman & Sterling New York
38 Schiff Hardin Chicago
39 DLA Piper Chicago
40 Mayer Brown Chicago


Is Boies not coming to OCI? 3.7+LR is borderline candidacy but candidacy nonetheless.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby cookiejar1 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:43 am

Anonymous User wrote:Want to do transactional in NYC or Chicago with 3.59x. what do you guys think

[list=]
1. Skadden NY 20
2. White and Case (NYC) 20
3. Skadden Chi 60
4. Freshfeilds nyc 20
5. Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP nyc 40
6. Kirkland Ellis chi 80
7. Latham (Chi) 76
8. Paul Hastings nyc 20
9. Ropes Grey nyc 40
10. Schiff chi 80
11. Baker McKenzie chi 20
12. Clifford Chance nyc 20
[/list]


Need more "target" firms like Willkie, Schulte, Milbank, Cahill, etc -- large class size NYC firms with historically low median CB GPAs.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby BaberhamLincoln » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:49 am

Is there anyone else in here (I assume quite a few) who are doing or have done both PLIP and OCI? Pm me please

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby moneyball026 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:56 am

cookiejar1 wrote: Is Boies not coming to OCI? 3.7+LR is borderline candidacy but candidacy nonetheless.

Not coming. I would mass mail boies but honestly it's probably not that doable unless you have 3.9 & LR. They don't take NU people often and they just had one in their class last summer so I could envision them just sitting out of NU hiring this year.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:30 am

This. I struck out at OCI, but was super lucky to get a job through mass mailing (literally got one offer). I don't want to be too harsh and ultimately you'll do what you want to do, but the only thing worse than striking out at OCI is knowing that you struck out because of your own stupidity or ignorance. Chicago is hard as fuck to get for most students; it's gonna be damn near impossible for you.

EDIT: Re-read my post. It came off way more dick-ish than I intended, sorry. I would just hate to see a fellow student strike out the way I did -- or at least place himself/herself at a high risk of striking out -- when that high risk is, at least somewhat, mitigable. Regardless of whether you decide to listen to Cobretti or me, good luck!


I know bidding Chicago exclusively is very risky and not likely to pay off, I'm not doing it out of ignorance. For personal family reasons I can't leave Chicago. Unfortunately not everyone has the flexibility to pack up and move to New York. I'm not going into this terribly optimistic, just trying to do the best I can with what I have. Does anyone have any advice about the bidlist specifically?

Edit - this is the bidlist for reference

3.3x, targeting only Chicago (I know, I know), any insight? I tried to mix some lower gpa firms with firms I thought would go fast in my top 10 which might be stupid. Criticism greatly appreciated.

Dentons
Quarles & Brady
McGuirewoods
Vedder Price Kaufman & Kammholz
Katten Muchin Rosenman
Dykema Gosset
Foley Lardner
Schiff Hardin
Kirkland & Ellis
Faegre Baker Daniels
Chapman & Cutler
Barack Ferrazzano Kirshbaum & Nagleberg
K&L Gates
McDermott Will & Emery
Paul Hastings
Dechert
Mayer Brown
Pircher Nichols & Meeks
Reed Smith
Clark Hill
Ropes & Grey
Polsinelli
Taft Stettinus & Hollister
Thompson Coburn
Baker & McKenzie
DLA Piper
Nicholaides Fink Thorpe Michaelides Sullivan
Locke Lorde Bissel & Liddel
Drinker Biddle & Reath
Jones Day
Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton
Jenner & Block
Morgan Lewis & Blockius
Winston & Strawn
Sidley Austin
Greenberg Traurig
Shook Hardy & Bacon
Perkins Coie
Eimer Stahl
Holland & Knight LLP

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:35 am

For the firms that do not allow multiple interviews for multiple offices, should I massmail directly to the offices I'm interested? or would the recruiting department view it as double dipping and not like it?

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby moneyball026 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:44 am

Anonymous User wrote:For the firms that do not allow multiple interviews for multiple offices, should I massmail directly to the offices I'm interested? or would the recruiting department view it as double dipping and not like it?

I never encountered double dipping distaste from firms that I massmailed, only from firms that went to OCI and where you attended 2 interviews the same day for 2 different cities (see: sidley). mass mail those offices.

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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

Postby moneyball026 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 10:55 am

Anonymous User wrote: 3.3x, targeting only Chicago (I know, I know), any insight? I tried to mix some lower gpa firms with firms I thought would go fast in my top 10 which might be stupid. Criticism greatly appreciated.

Dentons
Quarles & Brady
McGuirewoods
Vedder Price Kaufman & Kammholz
Katten Muchin Rosenman
Dykema Gosset
Foley Lardner
Schiff Hardin
Kirkland & Ellis
Faegre Baker Daniels
Chapman & Cutler
Barack Ferrazzano Kirshbaum & Nagleberg
K&L Gates
McDermott Will & Emery
Paul Hastings
Dechert
Mayer Brown
Pircher Nichols & Meeks
Reed Smith
Clark Hill
Ropes & Grey
Polsinelli
Taft Stettinus & Hollister
Thompson Coburn
Baker & McKenzie
DLA Piper
Nicholaides Fink Thorpe Michaelides Sullivan
Locke Lorde Bissel & Liddel
Drinker Biddle & Reath
Jones Day
Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton
Jenner & Block
Morgan Lewis & Blockius
Winston & Strawn
Sidley Austin
Greenberg Traurig
Shook Hardy & Bacon
Perkins Coie
Eimer Stahl
Holland & Knight LLP


remove barrack and eimer entirely,or put them at the very end, even after kirk/sid/mayer -add skadden as a firm to put above those 2, for good measure- (see below for my comments on those). I would think about moving dechert up to spot #1 - they have multiple office interviews so you'll need to bid high. They are also looking to expand their chicago office & have a median that isnt out of control. move reed smith & drinker biddle higher too. get rid of mayer brown or stick it at the end - perhaps some of those spots don't get bid on and you can get it later on. A place like Mayer brown your marginal chances of getting the interview at around 15 arent that much better than at 39, plus they will be tough to swing with your GPA anyways. Same goes for kirkland/sidley. baker & mck you should move down about 5 (edit: now that i think about it actually, baker is a solid target firm for you, dont move them down, sorry for the confusion) - youve got a couple of firms lower than belong higher. your focus should be on low medians, and class sizes that arent puny. yes, dechert's chicago class is only about 2 a year, but you've got a real shot there+it requires a really high bid so no sense putting it around 15.

and since you must stay in chicago, let me be the 100th person to tell you, as im sure you already are doing....MASSSSSSSSMAIL. every firm that has a law office in chicago, massmail them. also, have you considered milwaukee firms too? if this is doable for you and your family, may be another option to act upon.
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Re: Northwestern OCI 2015

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remove barrack and eimer entirely,or put them at the very end, even after kirk/sid/mayer -add skadden as a firm to put above those 2, for good measure- (see below for my comments on those). I would think about moving dechert up to spot #1 - they have multiple office interviews so you'll need to bid high. They are also looking to expand their chicago office & have a median that isnt out of control. move reed smith & drinker biddle higher too. get rid of mayer brown or stick it at the end - perhaps some of those spots don't get bid on and you can get it later on. A place like Mayer brown your marginal chances of getting the interview at around 15 arent that much better than at 39, plus they will be tough to swing with your GPA anyways. Same goes for kirkland/sidley. baker & mck you should move down about 5 - youve got a couple of firms lower than belong higher. your focus should be on low medians, and class sizes that arent puny. yes, dechert's chicago class is only about 2 a year, but you've got a real shot there+it requires a really high bid so no sense putting it around 15.

and since you must stay in chicago, let me be the 100th person to tell you, as im sure you already are doing....MASSSSSSSSMAIL. every firm that has a law office in chicago, massmail them. also, have you considered milwaukee firms too? if this is doable for you and your family, may be another option to act upon


Thank you so much this is so helpful. I plan on massmailing extensively, and have been thinking about massmailing Milwaukee as well. It would be tough (I would probably have to commute there from Chi) but I'm thinking that might be a second option. Thanks so much for all of the advice.




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