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Getting out of Patent Litigation
Patent litigation associate, no tech or bio degree, fairly junior. Given recent trends, I have doubts about my future in patent litigation. Ultimately, I'd like to go in-house. Would prefer to do something like tech transactions. Tech trans > other corporate > general litigation. What would TLS do?
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Would you feel differently if you had a science background?Anonymous User wrote:Patent litigation associate, no tech or bio degree, fairly junior. Given recent trends, I have doubts about my future in patent litigation. Ultimately, I'd like to go in-house. Would prefer to do something like tech transactions. Tech trans > other corporate > general litigation. What would TLS do?
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In house usually need people with tech degree and patent prosecution experience.Anonymous User wrote:Patent litigation associate, no tech or bio degree, fairly junior. Given recent trends, I have doubts about my future in patent litigation. Ultimately, I'd like to go in-house. Would prefer to do something like tech transactions. Tech trans > other corporate > general litigation. What would TLS do?
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Also would be a little surprised if you got tech trans without a science degree.Anonymous User wrote:In house usually need people with tech degree and patent prosecution experience.Anonymous User wrote:Patent litigation associate, no tech or bio degree, fairly junior. Given recent trends, I have doubts about my future in patent litigation. Ultimately, I'd like to go in-house. Would prefer to do something like tech transactions. Tech trans > other corporate > general litigation. What would TLS do?
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I've seen more postings that don't require a tech degree than do. I interviewed with a group for a tech trans position where no one in the group had hard IP credentials. I'm inclinded to give you the benefit of the doubt, but my experience doesn't match.L’Étranger wrote:Also would be a little surprised if you got tech trans without a science degree.Anonymous User wrote:In house usually need people with tech degree and patent prosecution experience.Anonymous User wrote:Patent litigation associate, no tech or bio degree, fairly junior. Given recent trends, I have doubts about my future in patent litigation. Ultimately, I'd like to go in-house. Would prefer to do something like tech transactions. Tech trans > other corporate > general litigation. What would TLS do?
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Re: Getting out of Patent Litigation
My bad. Hadn't seen that. Good luck with that then.Anonymous User wrote:I've seen more postings that don't require a tech degree than do. I interviewed with a group for a tech trans position where no one in the group had hard IP credentials. I'm inclinded to give you the benefit of the doubt, but my experience doesn't match.L’Étranger wrote:Also would be a little surprised if you got tech trans without a science degree.Anonymous User wrote:In house usually need people with tech degree and patent prosecution experience.Anonymous User wrote:Patent litigation associate, no tech or bio degree, fairly junior. Given recent trends, I have doubts about my future in patent litigation. Ultimately, I'd like to go in-house. Would prefer to do something like tech transactions. Tech trans > other corporate > general litigation. What would TLS do?
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Yea I think a non-tech IP lit junior would have a decent shot at tech transactions. You don't seem to have to know much about technology to do it.
Find a headhunter and let them do what they do.
Find a headhunter and let them do what they do.
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OP. I would, but only to the extent that having a science background meant that I would have a better shot at going in-house and doing IP counseling work.Anonymous User wrote:Would you feel differently if you had a science background?Anonymous User wrote:Patent litigation associate, no tech or bio degree, fairly junior. Given recent trends, I have doubts about my future in patent litigation. Ultimately, I'd like to go in-house. Would prefer to do something like tech transactions. Tech trans > other corporate > general litigation. What would TLS do?
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Yikes, do you view the future of patent litigation for those with science backgrounds as equally bleak?Anonymous User wrote:OP. I would, but only to the extent that having a science background meant that I would have a better shot at going in-house and doing IP counseling work.Anonymous User wrote:Would you feel differently if you had a science background?Anonymous User wrote:Patent litigation associate, no tech or bio degree, fairly junior. Given recent trends, I have doubts about my future in patent litigation. Ultimately, I'd like to go in-house. Would prefer to do something like tech transactions. Tech trans > other corporate > general litigation. What would TLS do?
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OP. No, my impression is those with EE/CS or advanced life science degrees are fine.skri65 wrote:Yikes, do you view the future of patent litigation for those with science backgrounds as equally bleak?Anonymous User wrote:OP. I would, but only to the extent that having a science background meant that I would have a better shot at going in-house and doing IP counseling work.Anonymous User wrote:Would you feel differently if you had a science background?Anonymous User wrote:Patent litigation associate, no tech or bio degree, fairly junior. Given recent trends, I have doubts about my future in patent litigation. Ultimately, I'd like to go in-house. Would prefer to do something like tech transactions. Tech trans > other corporate > general litigation. What would TLS do?
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OP, can you share market?
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SF/SVsundance95 wrote:OP, can you share market?
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This is how I feel each morning.Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HPeNPOOamw#t=1m47s
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its very unlikely youll get another job in IP. With the rapidly shrinking job market for even lawyers with tech degrees, those in house/trans jobs are going to be next to impossible to get for someone without a tech degree.Anonymous User wrote:L’Étranger wrote:Also would be a little surprised if you got tech trans without a science degree.Anonymous User wrote:In house usually need people with tech degree and patent prosecution experience.Anonymous User wrote:Patent litigation associate, no tech or bio degree, fairly junior. Given recent trends, I have doubts about my future in patent litigation. Ultimately, I'd like to go in-house. Would prefer to do something like tech transactions. Tech trans > other corporate > general litigation. What would TLS do?
My advice for you is to just sell yourself as a general litigator and expand your job search accordingly.
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OP. So your feeling of the situation is that even if general corporate (even if not IP trains) is preferable to general litigation, my best shot of going in-house is to go the general lit route?Anonymous User wrote: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its very unlikely youll get another job in IP. With the rapidly shrinking job market for even lawyers with tech degrees, those in house/trans jobs are going to be next to impossible to get for someone without a tech degree.
My advice for you is to just sell yourself as a general litigator and expand your job search accordingly.
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right. almost every company has some ip, so your experience in that can only help, as long as you did other areas of lit. do you have experience doing non-ip lit?Anonymous User wrote:OP. So your feeling of the situation is that even if general corporate (even if not IP trains) is preferable to general litigation, my best shot of going in-house is to go the general lit route?Anonymous User wrote: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its very unlikely youll get another job in IP. With the rapidly shrinking job market for even lawyers with tech degrees, those in house/trans jobs are going to be next to impossible to get for someone without a tech degree.
My advice for you is to just sell yourself as a general litigator and expand your job search accordingly.
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Unfortunately, not post-Law school. I guess patent lit-->some sort of teams-->in-house is even more unlikely then.Anonymous User wrote:right. almost every company has some ip, so your experience in that can only help, as long as you did other areas of lit. do you have experience doing non-ip lit?Anonymous User wrote:OP. So your feeling of the situation is that even if general corporate (even if not IP trains) is preferable to general litigation, my best shot of going in-house is to go the general lit route?Anonymous User wrote: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its very unlikely youll get another job in IP. With the rapidly shrinking job market for even lawyers with tech degrees, those in house/trans jobs are going to be next to impossible to get for someone without a tech degree.
My advice for you is to just sell yourself as a general litigator and expand your job search accordingly.
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This is anon abuse. It's particularly annoying here because the anonymous poster is full of shit.Anonymous User wrote: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its very unlikely youll get another job in IP. With the rapidly shrinking job market for even lawyers with tech degrees, those in house/trans jobs are going to be next to impossible to get for someone without a tech degree.
My advice for you is to just sell yourself as a general litigator and expand your job search accordingly.
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Not abuse, just telling you what Im seeing at my own firm (rapid increase in departures, slowdown in hiring) and reading about in the news.rpupkin wrote:This is anon abuse. It's particularly annoying here because the anonymous poster is full of shit.Anonymous User wrote: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its very unlikely youll get another job in IP. With the rapidly shrinking job market for even lawyers with tech degrees, those in house/trans jobs are going to be next to impossible to get for someone without a tech degree.
My advice for you is to just sell yourself as a general litigator and expand your job search accordingly.
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Boutique?Anonymous User wrote:Not abuse, just telling you what Im seeing at my own firm (rapid increase in departures, slowdown in hiring) and reading about in the news.rpupkin wrote:This is anon abuse. It's particularly annoying here because the anonymous poster is full of shit.Anonymous User wrote: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its very unlikely youll get another job in IP. With the rapidly shrinking job market for even lawyers with tech degrees, those in house/trans jobs are going to be next to impossible to get for someone without a tech degree.
My advice for you is to just sell yourself as a general litigator and expand your job search accordingly.
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OP. I didn't write the blurb above, but am in biglaw. We have also seen a string of departures, but mostly senior people who were told they were not making partner--they seem to have all landed on their feet though.Anonymous User wrote:Boutique?Anonymous User wrote:Not abuse, just telling you what Im seeing at my own firm (rapid increase in departures, slowdown in hiring) and reading about in the news.rpupkin wrote:This is anon abuse. It's particularly annoying here because the anonymous poster is full of shit.Anonymous User wrote: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but its very unlikely youll get another job in IP. With the rapidly shrinking job market for even lawyers with tech degrees, those in house/trans jobs are going to be next to impossible to get for someone without a tech degree.
My advice for you is to just sell yourself as a general litigator and expand your job search accordingly.
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the idea that you need a science background to do tech industry corporate is ludicrous
the SV firms are pulling 2nd/3rd year laterals out of davis polk/cravath/sullivan with no STEM, just knowledge of deal work. most of those kids were probably philosophy, english or econ majors.
the SV firms are pulling 2nd/3rd year laterals out of davis polk/cravath/sullivan with no STEM, just knowledge of deal work. most of those kids were probably philosophy, english or econ majors.
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related question: exit ops for ip tech transactions > m&a/private equity >>> patent lit > general lit? anyone know?
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I tried for a year and got blanked across the boardDesert Fox wrote:Yea I think a non-tech IP lit junior would have a decent shot at tech transactions. You don't seem to have to know much about technology to do it.
Find a headhunter and let them do what they do.
not easy to switch into TT from lit
most groups busy and don't have time 2 train juniors
just do life sci lit dood, that's why we have technical advisors in BIGLAW
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