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Summer Associate position - drug testing?
I'm working at a mid-tier energy litigation firm this summer... I smoke marijuana on occasion, and I have no idea how to find out if I am subject to 1) an entrance drug test, or 2) automatically subject to random drug testing, or 3) automatically subject to drug testing upon "suspicion" or anything along those lines.
I understand, "don't smoke weed," is a great idea. However, that is not the point of this topic. How do I go about figuring out if I am subject to drug testing?
EDIT - in a state that allows medicinal marijuana.
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I understand, "don't smoke weed," is a great idea. However, that is not the point of this topic. How do I go about figuring out if I am subject to drug testing?
EDIT - in a state that allows medicinal marijuana.
Thanks,
Anonymous
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Re: Summer Associate position - drug testing?
Big law firms almost categorically don't drug test associates. I don't know what mid-tier really means but I doubt they test; the caveat of course is if you heard that they test. I've also never heard of anyone getting tested for just an internship but I could be completely off base.
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Maybe just don't smoke weed for one summer to guarantee financial prosperity.Anonymous User wrote:I'm working at a mid-tier energy litigation firm this summer... I smoke marijuana on occasion, and I have no idea how to find out if I am subject to 1) an entrance drug test, or 2) automatically subject to random drug testing, or 3) automatically subject to drug testing upon "suspicion" or anything along those lines.
I understand, "don't smoke weed," is a great idea. However, that is not the point of this topic. How do I go about figuring out if I am subject to drug testing?
Thanks,
Anonymous
Otherwise just take the risk because asking is going to raise suspicion. I will say most private firms don't test.
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Re: Summer Associate position - drug testing?
Yeah, they almost certainly don't test. Most firms would be fucked if they did a Monday morning unannounced drug test.
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Re: Summer Associate position - drug testing?
I wouldn't say that. For almost anything you could possibly want to do in law, it doesn't matter.Anonymous User wrote:I understand, "don't smoke weed," is a great idea.
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Re: Summer Associate position - drug testing?
firms don't drug test
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anyone know whether federal chambers or DOJ drug tests?
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I know the NLRB does, so the DOJ probably does.jbagelboy wrote:anyone know whether federal chambers or DOJ drug tests?
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Re: Summer Associate position - drug testing?
I wonder what the DOJ does now that DC legalized it.
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Re: Summer Associate position - drug testing?
+1 pointDesert Fox wrote:I wonder what the DOJ does now that DC legalized it.
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The judiciary generally doesn't drug test, but I guess the judge could pull out a cup and fire you if you failed / refused to take it.jbagelboy wrote:anyone know whether federal chambers or DOJ drug tests?
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Re: Summer Associate position - drug testing?
Federal chambers don't test (unless maybe you had to get a clearance for nationally sensitive cases, but term clerks don't usually), DOJ does.
I don't think anything about MJ being legal in DC makes DOJ have to hire people who use, sorry.
I don't think anything about MJ being legal in DC makes DOJ have to hire people who use, sorry.
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Re: Summer Associate position - drug testing?
I actually have personal experience with this. At least in my case, obtaining the clearance as a clerk did not require a drug test.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Federal chambers don't test (unless maybe you had to get a clearance for nationally sensitive cases, but term clerks don't usually), DOJ does.
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Ditto.rpupkin wrote:I actually have personal experience with this. At least in my case, obtaining the clearance as a clerk did not require a drug test.A. Nony Mouse wrote:Federal chambers don't test (unless maybe you had to get a clearance for nationally sensitive cases, but term clerks don't usually), DOJ does.
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This post should not be anon. Anyway, please explain how OP is jeopardizing his career.Anonymous User wrote:Are drugs really that important to you that you would jeopardize your career to get high?
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this is almost certainly wetblanket wizAnonymous User wrote:Are drugs really that important to you that you would jeopardize your career to get high?
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Re: Summer Associate position - drug testing?
OP would not have made this post if he/she didn't think there was some risk. Smoking weed is still illegal in most jurisdictions and even if legal, it carries a negative stigma with employers. The risk of getting caught may be low, but why chance it unless it is really important to your life?rpupkin wrote:This post should not be anon. Anyway, please explain how OP is jeopardizing his career.Anonymous User wrote:Are drugs really that important to you that you would jeopardize your career to get high?
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because firms don't drug testAnonymous User wrote:OP would not have made this post if he/she didn't think there was some risk. Smoking weed is still illegal in most jurisdictions and even if legal, it carries a negative stigma with employers. The risk of getting caught may be low, but why chance it unless it is really important to your life?rpupkin wrote:This post should not be anon. Anyway, please explain how OP is jeopardizing his career.Anonymous User wrote:Are drugs really that important to you that you would jeopardize your career to get high?
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As a heads up, at least one firm in Chicago drug tested two years ago. But there was some weird circumstances surrounding it.
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Why cancel a sesh if you don't have to tho. You shouldn't have to stop toking up because if your employer were they to find out might disapprove. OP was asking to confirm there was no riskAnonymous User wrote:OP would not have made this post if he/she didn't think there was some risk. Smoking weed is still illegal in most jurisdictions and even if legal, it carries a negative stigma with employers. The risk of getting caught may be low, but why chance it unless it is really important to your life?rpupkin wrote:This post should not be anon. Anyway, please explain how OP is jeopardizing his career.Anonymous User wrote:Are drugs really that important to you that you would jeopardize your career to get high?
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Re: Summer Associate position - drug testing?
I know of at least two that do. It's not just about whether firms drug test. If you smoke weed you are presumably buying it or growing it. There is risk in both of those activities. If you're stupid enough you might drive while high, get in an accident or get pulled over by a suspicious cop.El Pollito wrote:because firms don't drug testAnonymous User wrote:OP would not have made this post if he/she didn't think there was some risk. Smoking weed is still illegal in most jurisdictions and even if legal, it carries a negative stigma with employers. The risk of getting caught may be low, but why chance it unless it is really important to your life?rpupkin wrote:This post should not be anon. Anyway, please explain how OP is jeopardizing his career.Anonymous User wrote:Are drugs really that important to you that you would jeopardize your career to get high?
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Re: Summer Associate position - drug testing?
everything in life is a risk-reward bro.
if there is only a .01% risk, probably not worth curtailing your normal activities.
if there is only a .01% risk, probably not worth curtailing your normal activities.
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Which firms? They wouldn't be put on blast -- it's not like they want to catch people; they want to discourage degenerate druggies from going there.Anonymous User wrote:
I know of at least two that do.
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A risk is a risk. I'd say the risk of using illegal drugs is non-trivial, but to each her own.
I work at one of the firms so I won't be disclosing the name.
I work at one of the firms so I won't be disclosing the name.
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