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Skadden DC?

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:41 pm

District court clerk here with an offer to go to Skadden DC. I was curious to get TLS' thoughts on the DC office. Specifically:

(1) How well-regarded is the DC office compared to the big DC players like Covington and Hogan?

(2) How walled are the practice groups? I.e., if I am in a big group (say, litigation), what are the odds I can pick up some work in a small group (political law, CFIUS, etc.). Is it ever possible to move groups?

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby rpupkin » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:04 pm

Anonymous User wrote:District court clerk here with an offer to go to Skadden DC. I was curious to get TLS' thoughts on the DC office. Specifically:

(1) How well-regarded is the DC office compared to the big DC players like Covington and Hogan?

Whose "regard" are you concerned about?

Skadden is a big law firm with big law clients. You'll work a lot for partners who make a lot of money. The same is true of Covington and Hogan.

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:50 am

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby Desert Fox » Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:37 pm

rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:District court clerk here with an offer to go to Skadden DC. I was curious to get TLS' thoughts on the DC office. Specifically:

(1) How well-regarded is the DC office compared to the big DC players like Covington and Hogan?

Whose "regard" are you concerned about?

Skadden is a big law firm with big law clients. You'll work a lot for partners who make a lot of money. The same is true of Covington and Hogan.


Sorry to say, but this advice kinda sucks. Damn near all big firms have some DC output, but most of them sorta suck. Skadden DC is not one of the ones that suck. It's pretty good for general and misc. lit stuff I think.

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:57 pm

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rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:District court clerk here with an offer to go to Skadden DC. I was curious to get TLS' thoughts on the DC office. Specifically:

(1) How well-regarded is the DC office compared to the big DC players like Covington and Hogan?

Whose "regard" are you concerned about?

Skadden is a big law firm with big law clients. You'll work a lot for partners who make a lot of money. The same is true of Covington and Hogan.


Sorry to say, but this advice kinda sucks. Damn near all big firms have some DC output, but most of them sorta suck. Skadden DC is not one of the ones that suck. It's pretty good for general and misc. lit stuff I think.

I wasn't offering advice--just wondering what the OP actually wanted. But lol@your suggestion that Skadden sucks less for an associate than Covington and Hogan. (Yeah, I know you work in DC big law, but seriously?)

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby Desert Fox » Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:59 pm

rpupkin wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:District court clerk here with an offer to go to Skadden DC. I was curious to get TLS' thoughts on the DC office. Specifically:

(1) How well-regarded is the DC office compared to the big DC players like Covington and Hogan?

Whose "regard" are you concerned about?

Skadden is a big law firm with big law clients. You'll work a lot for partners who make a lot of money. The same is true of Covington and Hogan.


Sorry to say, but this advice kinda sucks. Damn near all big firms have some DC output, but most of them sorta suck. Skadden DC is not one of the ones that suck. It's pretty good for general and misc. lit stuff I think.

I wasn't offering advice--just wondering what the OP actually wanted. But lol@your suggestion that Skadden sucks less than Covington and Hogan for an associate. (Yeah, I know you work in DC big law, but seriously?)


I thought they were asking how "good" the firms are, not quality of live. QOL wise -LOL. Skadden is probably worse, but at least, no better.

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:04 pm

Desert Fox wrote:I thought they were asking how "good" the firms are, not quality of live. QOL wise -LOL. Skadden is probably worse, but at least, no better.

I think Skadden is fine, but I don't think its general lit practice in DC is appreciably better than the other two firms the OP mentioned. But my knowledge is limited to just a few practice areas, so perhaps you're right.

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby Desert Fox » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:07 pm

rpupkin wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I thought they were asking how "good" the firms are, not quality of live. QOL wise -LOL. Skadden is probably worse, but at least, no better.

I think Skadden is fine, but I don't think its general lit practice in DC is appreciably better than the other two firms the OP mentioned. But my knowledge is limited to just a few practice areas, so perhaps you're right.


It's not better, it's just not shitty. I'd say nearly as good, but it's all fucking guesswork.

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:09 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I thought they were asking how "good" the firms are, not quality of live. QOL wise -LOL. Skadden is probably worse, but at least, no better.

I think Skadden is fine, but I don't think its general lit practice in DC is appreciably better than the other two firms the OP mentioned. But my knowledge is limited to just a few practice areas, so perhaps you're right.


It's not better, it's just not shitty. I'd say nearly as good, but it's all fucking guesswork.

Totally agree. Which is why I'm perplexed that you took issue with the observation that these are all big law firms will big law clients--there's nothing really to distinguish them in the abstract.

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby Desert Fox » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:11 pm

rpupkin wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I thought they were asking how "good" the firms are, not quality of live. QOL wise -LOL. Skadden is probably worse, but at least, no better.

I think Skadden is fine, but I don't think its general lit practice in DC is appreciably better than the other two firms the OP mentioned. But my knowledge is limited to just a few practice areas, so perhaps you're right.


It's not better, it's just not shitty. I'd say nearly as good, but it's all fucking guesswork.

Totally agree. Which is why I'm perplexed that you took issue with the observation that these are all big law firms will big law clients--there's nothing really to distinguish them in the abstract.


Only because there are big law firms here with big law clients that are still just 30 attorney outposts for the NYC office and I think that sort of sucks. Maybe its easier though,not sure.

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby rpupkin » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:18 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
rpupkin wrote:Totally agree. Which is why I'm perplexed that you took issue with the observation that these are all big law firms will big law clients--there's nothing really to distinguish them in the abstract.

Only because there are big law firms here with big law clients that are still just 30 attorney outposts for the NYC office and I think that sort of sucks. Maybe its easier though,not sure.

Ah, I get it. Yeah, I agree about the small-outpost thing. But of course Skadden isn't an example of that. Its DC Office is big and they have a lot of strong partners there. If the OP was asking about Convington vs. Hogan vs. Davis Polk, then what you're talking about matters.

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby Capitol_Idea » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:22 pm

Are you planning on being a major rain-maker or managing partner? That's the only situation in the present case where I think the centrality of the office you start at would matter for your legal career (2L here, so y'know, take that with the appropriately-sized grain of salt). Hogan and Covington are big hitters in DC, but it's not like Skadden has a small presence here either.

I hear Hogan is a little more walled than most firms, but no idea how this compares to Skadden or Covington (given the latter's penchant for formality, perhaps the same is true here as well? Totally baseless conjecture)

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Re: Skadden DC?

Postby Desert Fox » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:29 pm

zacharus85 wrote:Are you planning on being a major rain-maker or managing partner? That's the only situation in the present case where I think the centrality of the office you start at would matter for your legal career (2L here, so y'know, take that with the appropriately-sized grain of salt). Hogan and Covington are big hitters in DC, but it's not like Skadden has a small presence here either.

I hear Hogan is a little more walled than most firms, but no idea how this compares to Skadden or Covington (given the latter's penchant for formality, perhaps the same is true here as well? Totally baseless conjecture)


I don't think this applies to Skadden because it's DC office is a 300 attorney behemoth.

But I think being in a rinky dink outpost does hurt your career in many cases. Firms don't want to subsidize this smaller offices and your ass is on the line if there isn't work. If the partners you work with aren't bringing in enough work, you might just get staffed on whatever.




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