itbdvorm wrote:Anonymous User wrote:itbdvorm wrote:- "doing all this at 2 am" - when do you want to do it? bid is due tomorrow. that's what we're getting paid for.
There's a difference - there really is - between being upset that the job sucks sometimes and thinking you're entitled to something better. You're not. That's the job. If you want the money, this is the deal you're making for yourself. And being pissy about it actually robs YOU of the best thing about it (even better than the money) - the human capital you can build in yourself by being a good teammate and coworker. That pays dividends down the line far in excess of the cash.
this is not quite right.
i worked in biglaw for 4 years and since day 1 i set limits for how much i would work. regardless of how busy it was, or how many other associates wanted to stay until 3:00am to get docs out, i would come in and leave when i wanted (my average day was 10:30-8:00).
this is what i considered to be a fair trade-off. anything more than that for me was not worth it and i'd rather not have a job than work another hour. it's employment at will and nobody can force you to work more than you're willing - you can always quit once it becomes not worth it. eventually i decided even 10:30-8 was too much for me and i went in-house and got the same job as every other biglawyer.
what the bolded ignores is that the firm continued to pay me and keep me on board for 4 years despite doing less than anyone. that's because i was still earning my paycheck (in their eyes) billing 1600 hours or whatever. we're paid for as long as the firm thinks we're an asset. being a "super asset" or whatever gets you nowhere. everyone gets the same paycheck and anyone who does more than the bare minimum is a chump.
also, the whole idea that killing yourself billing 2300 pays off down the road or that you become a better lawyer is ridiculous. there's no super elite epiphany you have in hour 2200. it's the same exact crap you were doing in hour 500.
This guy here - not the partner, not the senior associate, not the client - is who you all should be mad at.
Each guy doing just enough to not get fired is another spot that could have been filled with someone who jumps on the grenade so you can go to your friend's birthday party.
Once again, this is a strawman. No one who is on the side of drawing some boundaries and creating at least some balance is hoping for others to do their work for them or step up so that they don't have to. Even those who draw some boundaries and happily get by just billing their 2,100 hours and being done with it will still sacrifice plans when a grenade is about to blow, or when the unexpected need arises. The difference between 2,100 and 2,600 or 2,700 hours isn't just grenade emergencies. Its a calculated and pre-determined choice at that point, and not really dictated by spur-of-the-moment circumstances.