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Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:23 pm

How common is it for students to obtain an OCI-like screener interview from a firm that doesnt do OCI at their school? (lets say a t3 student w/ very high rank reaches out for an interview)

Also, would it be inappropriate/forward to send also a copy of your unofficial transcript along (proof of the grades)?

Additionally, would it be obnoxious to somehow fix your GPA into your cover letter (lets say its a 4.0) in order to have them jump at them?

Appreciate any help.

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby MarkinKansasCity » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:25 pm

What you're talking about sounds like mass mailing, and it is absolutely appropriate. Putting your 4.0 GPA in the cover letter sounds like a winner too. There's really no reason to compare this to OCI. You're just trying to get an interview, and you should be in good shape with those grades. Good luck!

Oh, and no need to provide a transcript. If they want it, they'll ask for it.

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby hoos89 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 5:53 pm

Pft...forget about the cover letter, I'd probably put the 4.0 in the subject line of the e-mail you send to the recruiter.

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:58 pm

hoos89 wrote:Pft...forget about the cover letter, I'd probably put the 4.0 in the subject line of the e-mail you send to the recruiter.


Wait, you joking?

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby hoos89 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:07 pm

Well...don't forget the cover letter; do have "4.0" conspicuously placed in the subject line (if true). Put your best foot forward. Being at a TTT means you have an uphill climb so you have to do your best to get the recruiter to open the e-mail.

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby FSK » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:19 pm

You could honestly write "2L with 4.0 GPA from SCHOOL Application for Summer Association Position" and be fine.

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby hoos89 » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:21 pm

I try to keep it a little shorter. Probably don't put TTT school name in there. "2L SA Application - 4.0 GPA" or something would probably work. Subject line is all about making the recruiter actually look at your application. Pique interest. Do not give him/her a reason not to look.
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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby fats provolone » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:22 pm

"4.0 GPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OPEN FOR DETAILS"

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby lawschoolftw » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:28 pm

I'm a little surprised with the "put 4.0 in subject line" responses. I think it's gonna come off as douchey. Just make it clear in the subject line that it's an employment inquiry for a SA and in the body (as part of a cover letter) I would note your gpa.

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby ymmv » Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:28 pm

fats provolone wrote:"4.0 GPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OPEN FOR DETAILS"


LAW STUDENTS HATE HIM!!!

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:21 pm

lawschoolftw wrote:I'm a little surprised with the "put 4.0 in subject line" responses. I think it's gonna come off as douchey. Just make it clear in the subject line that it's an employment inquiry for a SA and in the body (as part of a cover letter) I would note your gpa.



Why? The person's job is to sift through hundreds (thousands?) of applicants for the same position. It would be douchey to make it your Facebook status, but you want this person to see your GPA. Why just put some generic subject line that will blend in with every one else? Is there a chance that some recruiters will be off put by it? Sure, I guess, but I think the possible benefits of standing out outweigh that risk.

When I was applying I put "top 5%" in my subject line and had really good results (I do not go to a T14). This process is all about marketing yourself. Don't sell yourself short for fear of coming across as douchey. Sure you can go too far, but I don't think putting your top selling point in the subject crosses that line.

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:23 pm

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lawschoolftw wrote:I'm a little surprised with the "put 4.0 in subject line" responses. I think it's gonna come off as douchey. Just make it clear in the subject line that it's an employment inquiry for a SA and in the body (as part of a cover letter) I would note your gpa.



Why? The person's job is to sift through hundreds (thousands?) of applicants for the same position. It would be douchey to make it your Facebook status, but you want this person to see your GPA. Why just put some generic subject line that will blend in with every one else? Is there a chance that some recruiters will be off put by it? Sure, I guess, but I think the possible benefits of standing out outweigh that risk.

When I was applying I put "top 5%" in my subject line and had really good results (I do not go to a T14). This process is all about marketing yourself. Don't sell yourself short for fear of coming across as douchey. Sure you can go too far, but I don't think putting your top selling point in the subject crosses that line.


OP here. Thanks guys. I def will likely put it - however I hope I did not ginx myself. Only half way there.

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:08 am

Don't put it in the subject line. People love to talk about how many of these sorts of emails recruiters receive, but I find it really hard to believe that that number is so high that a large number of recruiters, job duties notwithstanding, are simply unable or unwilling to open the email and read it. On the other hand, if they like your resume and want to interview you (which I bet they will), odds are that your email is getting forwarded beyond just the initial recruiter, and it would be a shame if it ends up in the hands of a lawyer who just finds it kind of tacky.

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby hoos89 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:43 am

Anonymous User wrote:Don't put it in the subject line. People love to talk about how many of these sorts of emails recruiters receive, but I find it really hard to believe that that number is so high that a large number of recruiters, job duties notwithstanding, are simply unable or unwilling to open the email and read it. On the other hand, if they like your resume and want to interview you (which I bet they will), odds are that your email is getting forwarded beyond just the initial recruiter, and it would be a shame if it ends up in the hands of a lawyer who just finds it kind of tacky.


How is that hard to believe? I promise you that plenty of those get skimmed at best, and I think you're overestimating the chances that random TTT applicant will be taken seriously enough for the recruiter to even see the 4.0 part if it's buried in the cover letter. I don't see the problem with trying to make yourself stand out a bit. Also, I think your risk analysis is a bit off primarily because this would be done on a large scale (hundreds of firms). If someone at a handful of firms is put off by it, it won't really matter in the grand scheme of things if the subject line garners your application more attention at other firms. I seriously think you're overestimating how tacky this would come across: after all it's being done in the context of the recruiting process. I also find it weird that you think that all applications are being thoroughly reviewed.

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby 2014 » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:22 pm

My mass mail subject line was "U.Chicago 1L/2L Summer Associate Application" because I knew my school would make them more likely to open it. I think you absolutely should have the 4.0 in the subject line for the same reason. I'd do like "Shit State 4.0 GPA 1L Summer Associate Application"

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Re: Logistics of Non-OCI; OCI-type interviews

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:30 pm

2014 wrote:My mass mail subject line was "U.Chicago 1L/2L Summer Associate Application" because I knew my school would make them more likely to open it. I think you absolutely should have the 4.0 in the subject line for the same reason. I'd do like "Shit State 4.0 GPA 1L Summer Associate Application"


Thanks everyone. This seems to be the majority opinion




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