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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby wiz » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:49 am

Speaking of which, public transportation is a huge plus in favor of NYC. That shit is nonexistent in TX, which sucks for going out.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby El Pollito » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:50 am

wiz wrote:Speaking of which, public transportation is a huge plus in favor of NYC. That shit is nonexistent in TX, which sucks for going out.

i thought texans just drive drunk then call godspeed

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby El Pollito » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:50 am

twenty 8 wrote:
El Pollito wrote:
twenty 8 wrote:Doing some big city expense guessing here. On top of all the high prices and inflated NY/NYC taxes, having no car means taxi transportation is likely $800 a month (9.6k annually, needing to net nearly 14k). With a car NYC parking is likely $600 a month (7k annually, needing is net over 10k). I just don’t see how anyone can think that BL’s extra 20k is enough to cover all the considerable COL deficits. The mid-law firms I know provide ample parking lots at zero or a modest monthly fee. Of course Fla doesn't have a state tax...don't get me started on the weather (it's nearly May and NY is still in the thirties).

I don’t know where the income level needs to be for someone to think NYC is a better deal (or tossup) financially.

lol no fucking way

people take the subway or walk for the most part

if we're cabbing it's usually on the client

I have a NYC friend who stays in the city 4 days a week and she says cabs cost her $200…just sayin’, 200 × 4 weeks = 800.

I spend under 100/month on it.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby twenty 8 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:00 am

wiz wrote:Why doesn't she take the subway?

Don't know. I have another friend who could literally walk across the street to the subway but instead walks 6-8 blocks to avoid the subway. Maybe some folks are not comfortable using the subway?

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby wiz » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:02 am

El Pollito wrote:
wiz wrote:Speaking of which, public transportation is a huge plus in favor of NYC. That shit is nonexistent in TX, which sucks for going out.

i thought texans just drive drunk then call godspeed

That would explain why Texas has the 5th highest incarceration rate in the US.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby El Pollito » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:03 am

twenty 8 wrote:
wiz wrote:Why doesn't she take the subway?

Don't know. I have another friend who could literally walk across the street to the subway but instead walks 6-8 blocks to avoid the subway. Maybe some folks are not comfortable using the subway?

subway isn't worth it for 6-8 blocks

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby wiz » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:14 am

Neither is a taxi. Isn't it pretty normal to just walk 6-8 blocks?

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby twenty 8 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:16 am

El Pollito wrote:
twenty 8 wrote:
wiz wrote:Why doesn't she take the subway?

Don't know. I have another friend who could literally walk across the street to the subway but instead walks 6-8 blocks to avoid the subway. Maybe some folks are not comfortable using the subway?

subway isn't worth it for 6-8 blocks

8 long blocks must be a good 20 minutes, especially at night (she's a lawyer and you know that 5PM isn't particularly go home time). I'm thinking about getting her a Beretta 3032 Tomcat for her birthday. I keep one in my glove box. Just don't know if that is something she could bring to the office.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby 2014 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:20 am

BigZuck wrote:
2014 wrote:Idk the "Just get a job in Texas" is getting dangerously close to a shitboomer argument

I can think of exactly one person who got Texas without having lived there before and at least two who failed to get it despite having ties.

:?:
2014 wrote:Idk the current 2Ls well, but we (3Ls) had a few non-ties non-LR people get Texas BL. I can think of maybe one person who wanted it and didn't get it and I think her issue was mostly bidding and not great grades.

I think we broke the shillbot

Damnit :lol:

Unclear whether I was being disingenuous wherever you brought that up (probably not, I actually believe 99% of my shill shit), or just neglected to parse through our class roster in my head. I went and dug up our employment list and see two no-ties (to my knowledge) people in Texas and can think of two ties people who didn't get it so I'll stick with those numbers for now lest I put myself in another hole.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby Monochromatic Oeuvre » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:51 am

wiz wrote:Speaking of which, public transportation is a huge plus in favor of NYC. That shit is nonexistent in TX, which sucks for going out.


+1 on both counts. NYC is $1500/yr on transportation whereas any low COL city is probably $6k-$10k (depending on commute). Main reason a dude with an SO can live in NYC on $20k/yr (not glamorously, but just fine).

And I'm so accustomed to being able to make it home safe while drunk at 2 AM that I sometimes forget it requires advance planning basically anywhere else. That does count for something.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby BigZuck » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:23 am

2014 wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
2014 wrote:Idk the "Just get a job in Texas" is getting dangerously close to a shitboomer argument

I can think of exactly one person who got Texas without having lived there before and at least two who failed to get it despite having ties.

:?:
2014 wrote:Idk the current 2Ls well, but we (3Ls) had a few non-ties non-LR people get Texas BL. I can think of maybe one person who wanted it and didn't get it and I think her issue was mostly bidding and not great grades.

I think we broke the shillbot

Damnit :lol:

Unclear whether I was being disingenuous wherever you brought that up (probably not, I actually believe 99% of my shill shit), or just neglected to parse through our class roster in my head. I went and dug up our employment list and see two no-ties (to my knowledge) people in Texas and can think of two ties people who didn't get it so I'll stick with those numbers for now lest I put myself in another hole.

You were being genuous

Not a big deal, I just remember you saying that in a relatively recent choosing thread and here you seemed significantly more pessimistic

To me, TX big law seems harder to get than a lot of people make it out to be, I agree. But I'm just a dude with a limited collection of anecdotes

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby dixiecupdrinking » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:26 am

Everyone in this thread is a moron.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby cookiejar1 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:36 am

dixiecupdrinking wrote:Everyone in this thread is a moron.

Yeah... LA is great!

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:12 am

NYC to 190 > $9600 a year on NYC taxis

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby orangecup » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:34 am

twenty 8 wrote:
El Pollito wrote:
twenty 8 wrote:
wiz wrote:Why doesn't she take the subway?

Don't know. I have another friend who could literally walk across the street to the subway but instead walks 6-8 blocks to avoid the subway. Maybe some folks are not comfortable using the subway?

subway isn't worth it for 6-8 blocks

8 long blocks must be a good 20 minutes, especially at night (she's a lawyer and you know that 5PM isn't particularly go home time). I'm thinking about getting her a Beretta 3032 Tomcat for her birthday. I keep one in my glove box. Just don't know if that is something she could bring to the office.


7 avenues is 1 mile, like 20 blocks. Walk at a brisk pace and you can do that in ~15 minutes.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby WheatThins » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:19 pm

twenty 8 wrote:8 long blocks must be a good 20 minutes, especially at night (she's a lawyer and you know that 5PM isn't particularly go home time). I'm thinking about getting her a Beretta 3032 Tomcat for her birthday. I keep one in my glove box. Just don't know if that is something she could bring to the office.


Wait, what?

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby Actus Reus » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:34 pm

WheatThins wrote:
twenty 8 wrote:8 long blocks must be a good 20 minutes, especially at night (she's a lawyer and you know that 5PM isn't particularly go home time). I'm thinking about getting her a Beretta 3032 Tomcat for her birthday. I keep one in my glove box. Just don't know if that is something she could bring to the office.


Wait, what?


I think he still thinks times square is full of porn shops and strip joints and that central park is murderer's row. Also John Gotti is alive.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby yomisterd » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:39 pm

Actus Reus wrote:
WheatThins wrote:
twenty 8 wrote:8 long blocks must be a good 20 minutes, especially at night (she's a lawyer and you know that 5PM isn't particularly go home time). I'm thinking about getting her a Beretta 3032 Tomcat for her birthday. I keep one in my glove box. Just don't know if that is something she could bring to the office.


Wait, what?


I think he still thinks times square is full of porn shops and strip joints and that central park is murderer's row. Also John Gotti is alive.


maybe taking daredevil a bit too literally

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby gchatbrah » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:54 pm

twenty 8 wrote:Doing some big city expense guessing here. On top of all the high prices and inflated NY/NYC taxes, having no car means taxi transportation is likely $800 a month (9.6k annually, needing to net nearly 14k). With a car NYC parking is likely $600 a month (7k annually, needing is net over 10k). I just don’t see how anyone can think that BL’s extra 20k is enough to cover all the considerable COL deficits. The mid-law firms I know provide ample parking lots at zero or a modest monthly fee. Of course Fla doesn't have a state tax...don't get me started on the weather (it's nearly May and NY is still in the thirties).

I don’t know where the income level needs to be for someone to think NYC is a better deal (or tossup) financially.


Are you stupid?

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby unc0mm0n1 » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:51 pm

wiz wrote:Speaking of which, public transportation is a huge plus in favor of NYC. That shit is nonexistent in TX, which sucks for going out.


Public transportation? Half the streets down here don't even have sidewalks. The property taxes are insane. I pay nearly 10K a year in property taxes while a friend of mine who bought a property for the almost the same price in Boston pays less than 3K. Not to mention the terrible HOA's here which add restrictions and another 500-2000/yr plus you have to pay them when you sell the house. Lastly, the sprawl is awful. Houston is nearly three times bigger than Chicago with terrible traffic. You are always 45mins away from everywhere. While money is nice, I'd probably have taken Chicago if I could have a do over.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby Monochromatic Oeuvre » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:58 pm

unc0mm0n1 wrote:
wiz wrote:Speaking of which, public transportation is a huge plus in favor of NYC. That shit is nonexistent in TX, which sucks for going out.


Public transportation? Half the streets down here don't even have sidewalks. The property taxes are insane. I pay nearly 10K a year in property taxes while a friend of mine who bought a property for the almost the same price in Boston pays less than 3K. Not to mention the terrible HOA's here which add restrictions and another 500-2000/yr plus you have to pay them when you sell the house. Lastly, the sprawl is awful. Houston is nearly three times bigger than Chicago with terrible traffic. You are always 45mins away from everywhere. While money is nice, I'd probably have taken Chicago if I could have a do over.


TBF if you're paying almost $10k/yr in property taxes, that would imply you have the kind of baller place that NYC associates could only dream of.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby Hutz_and_Goodman » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:29 pm

Very few people would choose to live and practice law in Houston over NYC
But I'm sure its true that: purchasing power of big law in Houston > purchasing power of big law in NYC

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:12 pm

dixiecupdrinking wrote:Everyone in this thread is a moron.

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:14 pm

wiz wrote:
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
wiz wrote:
Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:Yeah, I mean housing is a big cost but if I'm paying $2500 I'm NYC and I would pay $1000 a month in Houston, that's $18k a year difference, after tax. I could believe $160k NYC equals $100 or 110k in Houston.

I agree with you on NALP exaggerating the difference, but I'd be interested in seeing how far 70k could take you in Houston/Dallas vs. 160k in NYC.

Really crude calculations: After-tax income on a 160k salary in NYC is about 96k? And after-tax on a 70k salary in TX might be around 50k? Say housing drops you down to 66k in NYC and 40k in TX. After accounting for some of the less extreme COL differences, I could see the difference only being 10-20k apart.

But the problem again is that there's little sense in comparing disposable income if $1 in NYC student loans still equals $1 in TX student loans.

Also, you're living next to some fat piece of shit in Houston who beats his kids, whereas the people in NYC are more likely to have high school diplomas, at least.

Yeah, beating kids is probably worse than neglecting them and letting them become thin piece of shit cokeheads.


Sup, Adrian?

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Re: Biglaw Salaries going up?

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:17 pm

Hutz_and_Goodman wrote:Very few people would choose to live and practice law in Houston over NYC
But I'm sure its true that: purchasing power of big law in Houston > purchasing power of big law in NYC


People who grew up in Texas (rightfully) would like to live and work in Texas over NYC.

Everyone else who wants to live/work in Texas is either 1) some kind of scroungy Mormon with a bunch of kids who wants a McMansion to appease his SAHW or 2) something similar to 1).




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