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Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:13 pm
by AVBucks4239
gk101 wrote:If you are really freaked out and want to gun, offer to help a partner write an article or something. If this is your stub year, just put on some CLE on one monitor and TLS/twitter/reddit etc on the other monitor. If you don't have 2 monitors, killself
Working on getting a second monitor. I'm the most junior associate here by four years (small firm with about 25 lawyers), so I had to put in the request for it and then wait to see if someone senior wanted it. Should know by the end of the week.

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:15 pm
by logdog
I just talked to one of the partners at my firm about getting some billable work, and he didn't seem to concerned. He said "it's kind of a slow time of the year. Everyone is winding down." Ok, back to TLS I go!

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:23 pm
by 20160810
AVBucks4239 wrote:
gk101 wrote:If you are really freaked out and want to gun, offer to help a partner write an article or something. If this is your stub year, just put on some CLE on one monitor and TLS/twitter/reddit etc on the other monitor. If you don't have 2 monitors, killself
Working on getting a second monitor. I'm the most junior associate here by four years (small firm with about 25 lawyers), so I had to put in the request for it and then wait to see if someone senior wanted it. Should know by the end of the week.
The notion that any law firm would deny an attorney a second monitor baffles me. Having two monitors makes everyone more productive.

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:30 pm
by baal hadad
SBL wrote:
AVBucks4239 wrote:
gk101 wrote:If you are really freaked out and want to gun, offer to help a partner write an article or something. If this is your stub year, just put on some CLE on one monitor and TLS/twitter/reddit etc on the other monitor. If you don't have 2 monitors, killself
Working on getting a second monitor. I'm the most junior associate here by four years (small firm with about 25 lawyers), so I had to put in the request for it and then wait to see if someone senior wanted it. Should know by the end of the week.
The notion that any law firm would deny an attorney a second monitor baffles me. Having two monitors makes everyone more productive.
Srsly

Work at a firm on the smaller side as well and I had 2 monitors my first day

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:33 pm
by Desert Fox
SBL wrote:
AVBucks4239 wrote:
gk101 wrote:If you are really freaked out and want to gun, offer to help a partner write an article or something. If this is your stub year, just put on some CLE on one monitor and TLS/twitter/reddit etc on the other monitor. If you don't have 2 monitors, killself
Working on getting a second monitor. I'm the most junior associate here by four years (small firm with about 25 lawyers), so I had to put in the request for it and then wait to see if someone senior wanted it. Should know by the end of the week.
The notion that any law firm would deny an attorney a second monitor baffles me. Having two monitors makes everyone more productive.
Law firm admin tasks are run by people who don't really see the business side of the operation. To them, its 300 dollars out the door from their budget. They don't realize we are expensive ass cows that milk 3grand in revenue per day.

Also, treat people like you are their boss because you are. Don't ask for a monitor, tell them to get you one. Be polite, but don't form it as a question.

If biglaw wasn't retarded they'd outfit every associate with multifuction laserjet/scanner/fax/copier in their house and a new Lenovo laptop. Instead we have a fulltime diversity coordinator. lol .

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:39 pm
by baal hadad
Desert Fox wrote:
SBL wrote:
AVBucks4239 wrote:
gk101 wrote:If you are really freaked out and want to gun, offer to help a partner write an article or something. If this is your stub year, just put on some CLE on one monitor and TLS/twitter/reddit etc on the other monitor. If you don't have 2 monitors, killself
Working on getting a second monitor. I'm the most junior associate here by four years (small firm with about 25 lawyers), so I had to put in the request for it and then wait to see if someone senior wanted it. Should know by the end of the week.
The notion that any law firm would deny an attorney a second monitor baffles me. Having two monitors makes everyone more productive.
Law firm admin tasks are run by people who don't really see the business side of the operation. To them, its 300 dollars out the door from their budget. They don't realize we are expensive ass cows that milk 3grand in revenue per day.

Also, treat people like you are their boss because you are. Don't ask for a monitor, tell them to get you one. Be polite, but don't form it as a question.

If biglaw wasn't retarded they'd outfit every associate with multifuction laserjet/scanner/fax/copier in their house and a new Lenovo laptop. Instead we have a fulltime diversity coordinator. lol .
Someone somewhere is paying approx $375/hr for DF

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:41 pm
by Desert Fox
Thats my discount rate, full fare on my big case is 540.

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:33 pm
by baal hadad
Desert Fox wrote:Thats my discount rate, full fare on my big case is 540.
Damn son

Is that the norm for patent stuff or is it just your firm

Is it just you?

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 3:49 pm
by Desert Fox
baal hadad wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Thats my discount rate, full fare on my big case is 540.
Damn son

Is that the norm for patent stuff or is it just your firm

Is it just you?
My normal rate is 470 and that is officewide. But we have some "complex" matter rate that we use for this case.

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:32 pm
by 20160810
DF posts in minority free association thread whilst taking a dump --> (0.3, complex)

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:40 am
by Charger
SBL wrote:
AVBucks4239 wrote:
gk101 wrote:If you are really freaked out and want to gun, offer to help a partner write an article or something. If this is your stub year, just put on some CLE on one monitor and TLS/twitter/reddit etc on the other monitor. If you don't have 2 monitors, killself
Working on getting a second monitor. I'm the most junior associate here by four years (small firm with about 25 lawyers), so I had to put in the request for it and then wait to see if someone senior wanted it. Should know by the end of the week.
The notion that any law firm would deny an attorney a second monitor baffles me. Having two monitors makes everyone more productive.
What about if the firm gives you a huge monitor in lieu of 2? Is the firm I'm going to TTT?!

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:41 am
by fats provolone
define huge

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:43 am
by gk101
Charger wrote:
SBL wrote:
AVBucks4239 wrote:
gk101 wrote:If you are really freaked out and want to gun, offer to help a partner write an article or something. If this is your stub year, just put on some CLE on one monitor and TLS/twitter/reddit etc on the other monitor. If you don't have 2 monitors, killself
Working on getting a second monitor. I'm the most junior associate here by four years (small firm with about 25 lawyers), so I had to put in the request for it and then wait to see if someone senior wanted it. Should know by the end of the week.
The notion that any law firm would deny an attorney a second monitor baffles me. Having two monitors makes everyone more productive.
What about if the firm gives you a huge monitor in lieu of 2? Is the firm I'm going to TTT?!
2 monitors>>> 1 large one

ETA: unless you are godspeed and just put a fucking 55" TV in your office. that'd be cool I guess

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:25 pm
by logdog
Four assignments hit my desk this morning from four different partners. That didn't last long . . . .

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:36 pm
by OklahomasOK
logdog wrote:Four assignments hit my desk this morning from four different partners. That didn't last long . . . .
Welcome to the "I miss when I wasn't busy and could sit around and piss through CLEs" club

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 1:59 pm
by AVBucks4239
gk101 wrote: 2 monitors>>> 1 large one

ETA: unless you are godspeed and just put a fucking 55" TV in your office. that'd be cool I guess
I just moved into my GFs and have a spare 32" Samsung. Actually seems like it would be a perfect size. Decisions, decisions.

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:37 pm
by Anonymous User
AVBucks4239 wrote:
gk101 wrote: 2 monitors>>> 1 large one

ETA: unless you are godspeed and just put a fucking 55" TV in your office. that'd be cool I guess
I just moved into my GFs and have a spare 32" Samsung. Actually seems like it would be a perfect size. Decisions, decisions.
Serious question that I'd like discussed - does using a 32" TV as an office monitor make one an asshole? I'm actually also considering this. Is that too big? Will people conclude that I am a douche bag? My image is very important to me.

Caveat - what if the TV was won at an office holiday party? Does that change the analysis?

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:44 pm
by 20160810
One huge monitor is OK but sizing up the windows is a hassle whereas with two you can just pop them up to fullscreen and be done with it. Word in the left one and PDF or Westlaw in the right ftw.

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:46 pm
by AVBucks4239
Anonymous User wrote:
AVBucks4239 wrote:
gk101 wrote: 2 monitors>>> 1 large one

ETA: unless you are godspeed and just put a fucking 55" TV in your office. that'd be cool I guess
I just moved into my GFs and have a spare 32" Samsung. Actually seems like it would be a perfect size. Decisions, decisions.
Serious question that I'd like discussed - does using a 32" TV as an office monitor make one an asshole? I'm actually also considering this. Is that too big? Will people conclude that I am a douche bag? My image is very important to me.

Caveat - what if the TV was won at an office holiday party? Does that change the analysis?
This is also a main consideration--I think a lot of the boomers here and/or clients that end in my office might think I'm a tool. But ultimately, I have an unhealthy fetish for convenience. And that means I either need two monitors or one huge one. If the firm isn't going to provide two, then big monitor it is (likely).

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:20 pm
by 20160810
I think I'm going to get a small TV for the office in addition to 2 monitors. If people deem me a tool, that's OK, but at least I'll be a tool with muted baseball on in the background.

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:20 pm
by fats provolone
there's no point in having a giant monitor at the same resolution as a smaller one. unless you have shitty boomer eyes i guess and need your text gigantic. it's the same screen space.

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:27 pm
by AVBucks4239
fats provolone wrote:there's no point in having a giant monitor at the same resolution as a smaller one. unless you have shitty boomer eyes i guess and need your text gigantic. it's the same screen space.
Thinking more along the lines that I have more room to make windows smaller while keeping the text legible. In other words, the text will be the same size as one monitor, but I'll be able to have multiple things open (Twitter, Word, etc.) at the same time without needing to constantly minimize windows.

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:27 pm
by Anonymous User
What's an appropriate interval to wait before asking partners/senior associates for work (other than the assigning partner, who presumably should be updated regularly)? 1 week? 2 weeks? Hard to imagine people getting annoyed about excessive eagerness to work, but you never know . . .

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:40 pm
by Johann
when you do get work, you are gonna wanna TLS while you do that work and run at most .5 efficiency. No work was a problem for me in my first couple months but now with this solution I am always swamped and have been hitting 50 hour billable weeks with 25 hours of real work. Just the other day I even told a partner when she asked if I could do something "can't you tell I'm swamped. Why else would I be here at 7?"

Re: Got no billables. Help!

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:42 pm
by Johann
Anonymous User wrote:What's an appropriate interval to wait before asking partners/senior associates for work (other than the assigning partner, who presumably should be updated regularly)? 1 week? 2 weeks? Hard to imagine people getting annoyed about excessive eagerness to work, but you never know . . .
1 week is WAY too often. 2 weeks is still prolly too much. Busy people that can't really assign work because it's above their paygrade hate hearing that peopel are free to do work. Once a month casually would be okay if you are new. They know you're free, but there's not shit they can do about it.