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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:49 pm

Quinn is an exploitative sweatshop that abuses its associates in a lot more ways than high billable expectations.
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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby 2014 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:50 pm

If you do less than 2100 at DPW or wherever you are also failing to meet expectations but you get full bonus anyway. I don't see how that is not wildly superior. You will get shitcanned at both and have made more money (and perhaps felt less anxiety over the year about meeting some magic threshold) at a no hours req firm.

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:52 pm

dixiecupdrinking wrote:Regardless of how much 2100 versus 2000 sucks, it's not like it should be a surprise to Quinn associates that doing less than that means you're failing to meet expectations. I imagine getting a lower bonus is only one of many ways in which the firm tells you to get your shit straight if you aren't doing 2200+. Doesn't sound like a place that abides coasting.


1900 hours is hardly coasting. The difference between 1900 and 2200 is never having vacation. That may not matter to you if you're some kind of soulless striver, but most normal people go nuts under such conditions.

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby moonman157 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:47 pm

So like, what is the incentive of Quinn then? They're super grade-selective, so the people that go there have plenty of options (presumably). Is it really just people drinking the kool-aid? I know it's a good firm, especially if you're set on litigation, but I can't imagine it's worth it.

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby dixiecupdrinking » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:55 pm

Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
dixiecupdrinking wrote:Regardless of how much 2100 versus 2000 sucks, it's not like it should be a surprise to Quinn associates that doing less than that means you're failing to meet expectations. I imagine getting a lower bonus is only one of many ways in which the firm tells you to get your shit straight if you aren't doing 2200+. Doesn't sound like a place that abides coasting.


1900 hours is hardly coasting. The difference between 1900 and 2200 is never having vacation. That may not matter to you if you're some kind of soulless striver, but most normal people go nuts under such conditions.

Yeah I'm just saying if you go to Quinn and are surprised that the standard is "soulless striver," you weren't paying attention.

Basically seems like a shithole place to work all around, I guess is my point.

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby Desert Fox » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:09 pm

moonman157 wrote:So like, what is the incentive of Quinn then? They're super grade-selective, so the people that go there have plenty of options (presumably). Is it really just people drinking the kool-aid? I know it's a good firm, especially if you're set on litigation, but I can't imagine it's worth it.


Their selectivity is wildly overrated. At Northwestern it was like 3.6 cutoff. Thats top 30%.

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby fats provolone » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:10 pm

zero personality filter also broadens the pool

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby mvp99 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:19 pm

dixiecupdrinking wrote:
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
dixiecupdrinking wrote:Regardless of how much 2100 versus 2000 sucks, it's not like it should be a surprise to Quinn associates that doing less than that means you're failing to meet expectations. I imagine getting a lower bonus is only one of many ways in which the firm tells you to get your shit straight if you aren't doing 2200+. Doesn't sound like a place that abides coasting.


1900 hours is hardly coasting. The difference between 1900 and 2200 is never having vacation. That may not matter to you if you're some kind of soulless striver, but most normal people go nuts under such conditions.

Yeah I'm just saying if you go to Quinn and are surprised that the standard is "soulless striver," you weren't paying attention.

Basically seems like a shithole place to work all around, I guess is my point.


yea but what about the 90%+ rate of cases won

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby dixiecupdrinking » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:22 pm

The whole "just come to a cocktail party fuck OCI!" recruiting model seems to say it all about the firm. It's a way to be cheap and catch a whole bunch of anonymous law students in their recruiting net, passed off as some cool, idiosyncratic move. Have some $2 flip flops, you'll work the chillest 100 hour weeks here!

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:40 pm

moonman157 wrote:So like, what is the incentive of Quinn then? They're super grade-selective, so the people that go there have plenty of options (presumably). Is it really just people drinking the kool-aid? I know it's a good firm, especially if you're set on litigation, but I can't imagine it's worth it.


lol, they're not that grade selective. i don't know where this falsehood originated. probably from the PR people at Quinn. they are probably less selective than firms like Latham

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby fats provolone » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:44 pm

a lot of ppl with good grades probably do go to quinn. but that's what happens when you select for weirdos

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:46 pm

i mean, this guy got a job at Quinn straight off of his clerkship (with no honors from Washington and Lee): http://www.quinnemanuel.com/attorneys/patel-ketan

if Quinn is grade selective, they certainly don't have hard cutoffs like Wilmer, Covington, GDC or other firms.

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby fats provolone » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:51 pm

he graduated from UF in 09 though. he saw three national championships. i think he knows winning.

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby KD35 » Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:06 pm

Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
moonman157 wrote:So like, what is the incentive of Quinn then? They're super grade-selective, so the people that go there have plenty of options (presumably). Is it really just people drinking the kool-aid? I know it's a good firm, especially if you're set on litigation, but I can't imagine it's worth it.


lol, they're not that grade selective. i don't know where this falsehood originated. probably from the PR people at Quinn. they are probably less selective than firms like Latham

Is Latham considered that grade selective?

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby Old Gregg » Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:12 pm

KD35 wrote:
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
moonman157 wrote:So like, what is the incentive of Quinn then? They're super grade-selective, so the people that go there have plenty of options (presumably). Is it really just people drinking the kool-aid? I know it's a good firm, especially if you're set on litigation, but I can't imagine it's worth it.


lol, they're not that grade selective. i don't know where this falsehood originated. probably from the PR people at Quinn. they are probably less selective than firms like Latham

Is Latham considered that grade selective?


If ur at HYSCCN, none of these firms are particularly grade selective barring WLRK, Boies, Susman, W&C, S&C and a few others.

They could be personality selective, though. S&C is not. Got the grades? You'll get the offer.

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby Big Shrimpin » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:51 pm

anonnymouse wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Fatduck throwing his Quinn Sandals in the trash.

SPS, a TTT in decline. LJL at 2011 KE 2400 hr bros stylin on 2011 QE 2700 hr flip flop-havers. CHECK YOU BONUSES, John Quinn.


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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby anonnymouse » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:09 pm

Big Shrimpin wrote:
anonnymouse wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Fatduck throwing his Quinn Sandals in the trash.

SPS, a TTT in decline. LJL at 2011 KE 2400 hr bros stylin on 2011 QE 2700 hr flip flop-havers. CHECK YOU BONUSES, John Quinn.


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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby fats provolone » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:20 pm

sup shrimps

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby Big Shrimpin » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:25 am

fats provolone wrote:sup shrimps


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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby Big Shrimpin » Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:32 am

anonnymouse wrote:
Big Shrimpin wrote:
anonnymouse wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:Fatduck throwing his Quinn Sandals in the trash.

SPS, a TTT in decline. LJL at 2011 KE 2400 hr bros stylin on 2011 QE 2700 hr flip flop-havers. CHECK YOU BONUSES, John Quinn.


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yeh

but tbh, fck the meat grinder, big bonuses or not

id take free (consecutive) days off/no consequences over a fatter bonus...1 vaca in 2 yrs

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby 2014 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:56 am

dixiecupdrinking wrote:The whole "just come to a cocktail party fuck OCI!" recruiting model seems to say it all about the firm. It's a way to be cheap and catch a whole bunch of anonymous law students in their recruiting net, passed off as some cool, idiosyncratic move. Have some $2 flip flops, you'll work the chillest 100 hour weeks here!

It's probably far more expensive to send 10+ attorneys and rent out a restaurant than it is to send 2-3 to OCI. They still fly people out for callbacks and pay for hotels and shit. There are a lot of valid criticisms of Quinn's model imo but their recruiting schtick isn't done to save money.

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby 911 crisis actor » Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:42 am

mvp99 wrote:
dixiecupdrinking wrote:
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
dixiecupdrinking wrote:Regardless of how much 2100 versus 2000 sucks, it's not like it should be a surprise to Quinn associates that doing less than that means you're failing to meet expectations. I imagine getting a lower bonus is only one of many ways in which the firm tells you to get your shit straight if you aren't doing 2200+. Doesn't sound like a place that abides coasting.


1900 hours is hardly coasting. The difference between 1900 and 2200 is never having vacation. That may not matter to you if you're some kind of soulless striver, but most normal people go nuts under such conditions.

Yeah I'm just saying if you go to Quinn and are surprised that the standard is "soulless striver," you weren't paying attention.

Basically seems like a shithole place to work all around, I guess is my point.


yea but what about the 90%+ rate of cases won


88.6% now, breh

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:07 am

2014 wrote:
dixiecupdrinking wrote:The whole "just come to a cocktail party fuck OCI!" recruiting model seems to say it all about the firm. It's a way to be cheap and catch a whole bunch of anonymous law students in their recruiting net, passed off as some cool, idiosyncratic move. Have some $2 flip flops, you'll work the chillest 100 hour weeks here!

It's probably far more expensive to send 10+ attorneys and rent out a restaurant than it is to send 2-3 to OCI. They still fly people out for callbacks and pay for hotels and shit. There are a lot of valid criticisms of Quinn's model imo but their recruiting schtick isn't done to save money.


Quinn picked me up at LAX in a black car. I thought it was a nice touch.

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby fats provolone » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:11 am

:lol: awesome

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Re: 2014 Biglaw Bonus Thread

Postby 911 crisis actor » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:33 am

2014 wrote:
dixiecupdrinking wrote:The whole "just come to a cocktail party fuck OCI!" recruiting model seems to say it all about the firm. It's a way to be cheap and catch a whole bunch of anonymous law students in their recruiting net, passed off as some cool, idiosyncratic move. Have some $2 flip flops, you'll work the chillest 100 hour weeks here!

It's probably far more expensive to send 10+ attorneys and rent out a restaurant than it is to send 2-3 to OCI. They still fly people out for callbacks and pay for hotels and shit. There are a lot of valid criticisms of Quinn's model imo but their recruiting schtick isn't done to save money.


Renting out a Chipotle definitely more expensive than doing OCI




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