I posted above re: Chicago recruiters and had a good experience with Lesley Tone at the Lucas group. I was told by other laterals to avoid Wegman because they were apparently sloppy in distributing her materials. However, ymmv.Anonymous User wrote:Anyone have a good experience with Chicago recruiters? Specifically, has anyone used Wegman Partners or Michelle Mulholland?
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So I just got stealthed by my firm in NY ... Any recs on NY recruiters?
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^ Margie Grossberg at MLA in NY is good, but will only work with you if you have good credentials.
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Thanks-- do you have experience with her? I have decent credentials (t10; well-regarded firm).Anonymous User wrote:^ Margie Grossberg at MLA in NY is good, but will only work with you if you have good credentials.
Do you know anything about Urbis, Stofsky & Schiller, or BCG? Thanks.
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I worked with her extensively (but ultimately chose a firm in a market where she doesn't operate) and was put in touch with her via recommendation from a former colleague that she helped lateral (always a good sign). She got me A LOT of interviews, prepped me for every single interview, often in person, and is very on top of things. She's probably the only recruiter I've encountered who actually adds value and I've been through a lot of recruiters. I know BCG is not good, but haven't heard of the others.
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Thanks for your reply. Do you have any advice on what to look for/avoid in a recruiter (aside from what's already been mentioned itt)? Do I need to be forthcoming as to why I'm looking, etc.? Thanks.Anonymous User wrote:I worked with her extensively (but ultimately chose a firm in a market where she doesn't operate) and was put in touch with her via recommendation from a former colleague that she helped lateral (always a good sign). She got me A LOT of interviews, prepped me for every single interview, often in person, and is very on top of things. She's probably the only recruiter I've encountered who actually adds value and I've been through a lot of recruiters. I know BCG is not good, but haven't heard of the others.
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You should definitely not tell them why you're looking. I think it would make them hesitant to work with you or recommend you to other firms (which is what recruiters should be doing in their cover letters with your application materials). It's hard to say what to avoid, since it's basically "most recruiters." You you want to avoid recruiters who aren't established and don't have relationships with firms, because they're just resume flippers. You want a recruiter who is interested in the details of your situation and who wants to talk on the phone about how to best present you to firms and what you are looking for. I know your situation is sort of desperate, but you still want someone who isn't going to pressure you into applying to shitty jobs just so they can get paid.
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T&P bruh
lit or corp?
i live in constant fear of teh STEALTH
but from wut ive seen, ppl often get a few months to chill
actually dont know of any such person who didnt land some biglaw/midlaw thereafter
ENJOY DAT SEVERANCE
lit or corp?
i live in constant fear of teh STEALTH
but from wut ive seen, ppl often get a few months to chill
actually dont know of any such person who didnt land some biglaw/midlaw thereafter
ENJOY DAT SEVERANCE
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you really have a year or more bc you know it's coming most of the timeBig Shrimpin wrote:T&P bruh
lit or corp?
i live in constant fear of teh STEALTH
but from wut ive seen, ppl often get a few months to chill
actually dont know of any such person who didnt land some biglaw/midlaw thereafter
ENJOY DAT SEVERANCE
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Once a recruiter has my materials and I've given them the go-ahead to apply to certain firms, about how much updating should I expect from them? I don't want to seem desperate by reaching out to them ...
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I'd reach out if you haven't heard anything for a couple of weeks. It's their job to keep you posted and to follow up with firms.Anonymous User wrote:Once a recruiter has my materials and I've given them the go-ahead to apply to certain firms, about how much updating should I expect from them? I don't want to seem desperate by reaching out to them ...
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Thanks. Related to this, can anyone share info on timing with respect to application submission/interviewing/offer for lateraling? I suppose it is all case-specific; just feeling impatient and hating the silence.El Pollito wrote:I'd reach out if you haven't heard anything for a couple of weeks. It's their job to keep you posted and to follow up with firms.Anonymous User wrote:Once a recruiter has my materials and I've given them the go-ahead to apply to certain firms, about how much updating should I expect from them? I don't want to seem desperate by reaching out to them ...
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things move at different speeds depending upon the need and qualifications of the candidate, so things vary greatly
that said, you can go from application to offer in like a few weeks
when i went thru the process, most firms seemed to take a relatively short amount of time to let you know whether they were bringing you in for interviews
sometimes u just go in for a callback day and no screeners...sometimes u go in for screener and then come back for callbacks
i did 3 or 4 that proceeded upon the former and 1 that proceeded upon the latter...the latter one ended up strining me along for like 2 months and ultimately said they "werent in the offer phase" yet (i think it was down to me and 2 or 3 others, and they were interviewing more ppl but just hadnt made a final decision to ding me)...of the former, one was pretty quick apply->callback->ding...one was just a longer time period between apply->callback->ding...one i ended up getting an offer on the spot at the callback which was shocking...and the final one couldnt give me an answer before my offer expired, so i took the offer (which was also my top choice so it was gravy)
that said, you can go from application to offer in like a few weeks
when i went thru the process, most firms seemed to take a relatively short amount of time to let you know whether they were bringing you in for interviews
sometimes u just go in for a callback day and no screeners...sometimes u go in for screener and then come back for callbacks
i did 3 or 4 that proceeded upon the former and 1 that proceeded upon the latter...the latter one ended up strining me along for like 2 months and ultimately said they "werent in the offer phase" yet (i think it was down to me and 2 or 3 others, and they were interviewing more ppl but just hadnt made a final decision to ding me)...of the former, one was pretty quick apply->callback->ding...one was just a longer time period between apply->callback->ding...one i ended up getting an offer on the spot at the callback which was shocking...and the final one couldnt give me an answer before my offer expired, so i took the offer (which was also my top choice so it was gravy)
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What are the differences between callbacks for lateraling vs. for 2L summer? I already met w/ the practice group head during my screener round, and I'm relatively junior so won't have too many substantive things to talk about.
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for lateraling they're way more interested in your work experience/what you bring to the table/that you are not being pushed outAnonymous User wrote:What are the differences between callbacks for lateraling vs. for 2L summer? I already met w/ the practice group head during my screener round, and I'm relatively junior so won't have too many substantive things to talk about.
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First of all I'm sorry about what happened to you. It sucks. I do think you will land on your feet in this market though.Anonymous User wrote:What are the differences between callbacks for lateraling vs. for 2L summer? I already met w/ the practice group head during my screener round, and I'm relatively junior so won't have too many substantive things to talk about.
You're at least a year into big law right? I would not go into the interview thinking of yourself as having little substantive experience...even if you didn't get any (although that's a little perplexing if you're transactional), the firms you're interviewing with will expect you to be able to talk substantively about what you've done...certainly they expect a lot more substance from a fifth year but as a first year typically at my firm you've had a substantial role in drafting primary offering documents or commitment papers, attended and participated in drafting sessions, etc and certainly been on deals where interesting issues were raised...although it wouldnt have been up to you to solve them, you should know what they were (of course when you're discussing this stuff you aren't supposed to reveal confidential client info so if it's some secret thing then that's probably not the best example).
Anyway all I'm saying is regardless of whether you really had that experience don't approach the interview as if you are essentially applying for a summer position. Take the attitude that you have some substantive experience (not arrogance obv just not like a summer who has nothing to bring to the table either).
By the way this all applies to transactional work...not sure about lit...seems like they get less substance early on but I'm not sure.
Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
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Question: any advice on in house/ non big law job recruiters in los angeles?
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figured this might get some traction here maybe?
People have left firms: if you are comfortable, please post ITT why (again all within comfort zone I get this is a testy area). If not, could you watch it for if people want to talk to you about that firm?
This applies to lurkers a ton obviously which is why I'm bumping this up.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=253386
People have left firms: if you are comfortable, please post ITT why (again all within comfort zone I get this is a testy area). If not, could you watch it for if people want to talk to you about that firm?
This applies to lurkers a ton obviously which is why I'm bumping this up.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 3&t=253386
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Any advice for Philadelphia, NYC or DC headhunters?
I already called BCG but have not committed to anything. Looking at others too.
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I already called BCG but have not committed to anything. Looking at others too.
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For those looking in Chicago, consider Emily Render with Catamount.
Im only a 2L, but met with her extensively throughout my law school admissions process (she used to work for a T14). Just a really good person all around.
Im only a 2L, but met with her extensively throughout my law school admissions process (she used to work for a T14). Just a really good person all around.
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I actually went to law school with her. really smart person from what I rememberAnonymous User wrote:For those looking in Chicago, consider Emily Render with Catamount.
Im only a 2L, but met with her extensively throughout my law school admissions process (she used to work for a T14). Just a really good person all around.
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I thought BCG was kinda shit in DC.Anonymous User wrote:Any advice for Philadelphia, NYC or DC headhunters?
I already called BCG but have not committed to anything. Looking at others too.
Thanks!
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Does anyone have a rec for a recruiter for the PNW? Transaction, 5th year, if it matters.
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