Mulling. Forum

[Anonymous User]

big-law bubble is going to burst in a couple of years. You heard it hear first. Bad deal for ML, good deal for Bingham.

In terms of changing anything, I don't think it does...Would still avoid Bingham if you could.

[Anonymous User]

What about now? Change anything?

Yeah, it's probably a great idea to join a firm that is going through a merger as the weaker player, with far less leverage. It's not like SAs will be first on the chopping block or anything.

In all seriousness, it seems as though you have your mind made up and keep making excuses to join Bingham. Quite frankly, it's an idiotic idea, and we've all tried to tell you.

GO TO S&K!

[Anonymous User]

I'd be maybe more afraid now of Bingham- like above poster said. Id still choose S&K easily- much more job security, less pressure at trying not to be the next one cut at these struggling firms, better hours likely.

[Pikappraider]

Seward is the obvious choice, pretty shocking he he took it out of the op.

[sundance95]

Dude, no. Lol at thinking that this changes anything. You very well could be deemed redundant before you ever begin your associateship.

[KM2016]

Dude, no. Lol at thinking that this changes anything. You very well could be deemed redundant before you ever begin your associateship.

This. There is a legitimate chance they could cancel the SA program due to the need to work out the merger and cut costs, especially where Bingham is the sinking ship that MLB is saving. Yes, they may give commits some stupid stipend for their "troubles," but joining Bingham, ESPECIALLY after the confirmed merger, is a terrible, terrible career decision.

You should choose S&K without the slightest hesitation.

[Anonymous User]

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[baal hadad]

OP.

Baked Botts now in the mix. Does that trump all?

Naw I'd go w Seward rather than the ny outpost of some tx firm

[Anonymous User]

OP.

Baked Botts now in the mix. Does that trump all?

Naw I'd go w Seward rather than the ny outpost of some tx firm

Seward > BB >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greenberg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bingham+Morgan

Look. I understand the appeal of Bingham. I had a CB with them and loved the firm. But offer rates should be the most important consideration on your decision. Having a crappy summer is bad, but having a great summer and no offer is infinitely worse.

[Anonymous User]

OP.

Baked Botts now in the mix. Does that trump all?

Naw I'd go w Seward rather than the ny outpost of some tx firm

Seward > BB >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greenberg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bingham+Morgan

Look. I understand the appeal of Bingham. I had a CB with them and loved the firm. But offer rates should be the most important consideration on your decision. Having a crappy summer is bad, but having a great summer and no offer is infinitely worse.

Also loved my CB there, but thank god I don't have to work there.

[Anonymous User]

Looks like Baker Botts no-offered someone last summer. Is there a story there or is maintaining a 100% offer rate in NY not something they're concerned with?

[Pikappraider]

Sounds like op is no longer considering his best option (Seward) presumably because of vault prestige so I guess go with gt. I'd avoid Bingham at all costs and I'd rather be at Greenberg rather than a Texas NYC outpost but seriously just go to seward

[Anonymous User]

do not get caught up with vault ratings. seward is the clear choice here.

[Monochromatic Oeuvre]

OP is in the fight of his life to find a reason to turn down Seward other than BUT IT'S NOT VAULT THO.

[oblig.lawl.ref]

This thread is ridiculous. Why is it still alive?

[sundance95]

tls needs closure, okay?

[Anonymous User]

Echoing Bingham's sinking ship.

I've heard GT being sketchy about it's payment scales/working their associates to the bone (looking now for source). I interviewed with GT myself and kinda got that feel from the young associates.

Know someone who works at S&K and absolutely loves it and has said that job security is definitely solid there.

I summered at GT, but ended up accepting a full time offer elsewhere. Very happy. All associate work is sweat shop work. If you think any different, you're kidding yourself. The problem with GT is that there is no transparency. There were no billable hour goals. Partners would say that your job is to learn, but no one I talked to billed less than 2400/year, everyone was constantly anxious, and even shareholders would complain about the lack of pay scheme clarity. At first, I questioned my choice to jump ship, but every day I'm more pleased about the decision. Just my $.02.

Holy shit that sounds terrible

True, but having a $160k job you hate is better than being unemployed, which seems to be a much more likely outcome if Op summers at Bingham

Former GT summer here. I understand. I just don't get all of the doom and gloom unemployment on this site. Maybe I didn't live in reality, but after I decided to look outside of GT, I didn't have any problems finding other great jobs that pay comparable to GT (no, I didn't go to HYS. not even close...). Why couldn't OP take a summer job somewhere, see if they like it/it likes them, and then adjust the plan accordingly? That's what I did. Just because a place isn't 100% offer rate, doesn't mean you'll be unemployed (FYI, GT isn't 100% either).