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Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
Idk which one is the best. Practice area preference, I'm pretty flexible. Any insight appreciated.
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
If flexible I think I'd cross off Seward. I think they're mostly corporate. If you don't know now, you probably won't know this summer. The summers I got to know well at my firm who did not know early on into the summer weren't sure at the end of it, but picked what felt best for them. This is to say that you're probably not going to know at the end of the summer either. I would therefore go with the firm that is the best collectively, and ideally one that uses a rotational system for first years.Anonymous User wrote:Idk which one is the best. Practice area preference, I'm pretty flexible. Any insight appreciated.
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
If you want hedge fund work or to do shipping financings, Seward is good. Also the people there seemed generally nice. If you want something else, maybe go elsewhere.
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
OP here. I should mention that when I said flexible, I meant general transactional/corp. flexible. I don't want litigation. I also think hedge fund work would be pretty cool but if someone can give me some specific insight what this entails I would appreciate it.
also I keep reading seward is a "lifestyle firm" and have better hours than other nyc firms. not sure if that means there's not enough work to go around or it's not a sweatshop like some other nyc firms.
also I keep reading seward is a "lifestyle firm" and have better hours than other nyc firms. not sure if that means there's not enough work to go around or it's not a sweatshop like some other nyc firms.
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The feeling I got was that it was a bit less. That said, the pay scale is a bit compressed compared to other NYC firms and your health insurance will be more expensive.Anonymous User wrote:OP here. I should mention that when I said flexible, I meant general transactional/corp. flexible. I don't want litigation. I also think hedge fund work would be pretty cool but if someone can give me some specific insight what this entails I would appreciate it.
also I keep reading seward is a "lifestyle firm" and have better hours than other nyc firms. not sure if that means there's not enough work to go around or it's not a sweatshop like some other nyc firms.
Seems like there are good opportunities to go in house at hedge funds. I think they do a lot of fund formation and handle the transactions as well.
The shipping financing practice has a lot to do with the very weird risks involved in insuring shipments over sea.
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
op here. what do you mean when you say "a bit less"? also what are the exit options at BB and V&E (NY)? are partnership prospects there attainable? what about at Seward?Anonymous User wrote:The feeling I got was that it was a bit less. That said, the pay scale is a bit compressed compared to other NYC firms and your health insurance will be more expensive.Anonymous User wrote:OP here. I should mention that when I said flexible, I meant general transactional/corp. flexible. I don't want litigation. I also think hedge fund work would be pretty cool but if someone can give me some specific insight what this entails I would appreciate it.
also I keep reading seward is a "lifestyle firm" and have better hours than other nyc firms. not sure if that means there's not enough work to go around or it's not a sweatshop like some other nyc firms.
Seems like there are good opportunities to go in house at hedge funds. I think they do a lot of fund formation and handle the transactions as well.
The shipping financing practice has a lot to do with the very weird risks involved in insuring shipments over sea.
I think BB is slightly less attractive because they had 5 summers this summer and only offered 4 of them... V&E and Seward had 100%
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
Colonel Sanders here. Although I would love to have you in our next years chicken practice, you should speak to Career Services.
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
I don't know much about Seward, but I took another NY offer over BB NY. Starting my career at a small satellite office known to no-offer didn't seem like the best idea. I feel like V&E might be the same, but didn't actually interview with them.
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
follow this man's adviceKFC wrote:Colonel Sanders here. Although I would love to have you in our next years chicken practice, you should speak to Career Services.
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I mean it it felt like the hours were better than most other NYC corporate practices.Anonymous User wrote:op here. what do you mean when you say "a bit less"? also what are the exit options at BB and V&E (NY)? are partnership prospects there attainable? what about at Seward?Anonymous User wrote:The feeling I got was that it was a bit less. That said, the pay scale is a bit compressed compared to other NYC firms and your health insurance will be more expensive.Anonymous User wrote:OP here. I should mention that when I said flexible, I meant general transactional/corp. flexible. I don't want litigation. I also think hedge fund work would be pretty cool but if someone can give me some specific insight what this entails I would appreciate it.
also I keep reading seward is a "lifestyle firm" and have better hours than other nyc firms. not sure if that means there's not enough work to go around or it's not a sweatshop like some other nyc firms.
Seems like there are good opportunities to go in house at hedge funds. I think they do a lot of fund formation and handle the transactions as well.
The shipping financing practice has a lot to do with the very weird risks involved in insuring shipments over sea.
I think BB is slightly less attractive because they had 5 summers this summer and only offered 4 of them... V&E and Seward had 100%
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
What is the compression at Seward? I thought they paid lockstepAnonymous User wrote:The feeling I got was that it was a bit less. That said, the pay scale is a bit compressed compared to other NYC firms and your health insurance will be more expensive.Anonymous User wrote:OP here. I should mention that when I said flexible, I meant general transactional/corp. flexible. I don't want litigation. I also think hedge fund work would be pretty cool but if someone can give me some specific insight what this entails I would appreciate it.
also I keep reading seward is a "lifestyle firm" and have better hours than other nyc firms. not sure if that means there's not enough work to go around or it's not a sweatshop like some other nyc firms.
Seems like there are good opportunities to go in house at hedge funds. I think they do a lot of fund formation and handle the transactions as well.
The shipping financing practice has a lot to do with the very weird risks involved in insuring shipments over sea.
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It is lockstep, but I was told that the increases get smaller compared to most other firms. About 15k difference by 4th or 5th year IIRC, don't know how much after that.Pikappraider wrote:What is the compression at Seward? I thought they paid lockstepAnonymous User wrote:The feeling I got was that it was a bit less. That said, the pay scale is a bit compressed compared to other NYC firms and your health insurance will be more expensive.Anonymous User wrote:OP here. I should mention that when I said flexible, I meant general transactional/corp. flexible. I don't want litigation. I also think hedge fund work would be pretty cool but if someone can give me some specific insight what this entails I would appreciate it.
also I keep reading seward is a "lifestyle firm" and have better hours than other nyc firms. not sure if that means there's not enough work to go around or it's not a sweatshop like some other nyc firms.
Seems like there are good opportunities to go in house at hedge funds. I think they do a lot of fund formation and handle the transactions as well.
The shipping financing practice has a lot to do with the very weird risks involved in insuring shipments over sea.
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
I'd take the actual NYC firm over the satellites
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
Same, although the compression is a little bit of a drag. According to vault they pay market in years 1-3, couldn't find data on 4-7. I'd still take Seward thoughbaal hadad wrote:I'd take the actual NYC firm over the satellites
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
Not any of these tx firms.
source: worked at a v&e satellite in a non tx major market, and I know a ton of bb bros.
Caveat: Great firms in tx, outside you will be marginalized forever.
source: worked at a v&e satellite in a non tx major market, and I know a ton of bb bros.
Caveat: Great firms in tx, outside you will be marginalized forever.
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Re: Vinson & Elkins (NYC), Baker Botts (NYC), Seward&Kissel
hey so do you think you can pm me about your perspective? I would really appreciate it.Anonymous User wrote:Not any of these tx firms.
source: worked at a v&e satellite in a non tx major market, and I know a ton of bb bros.
Caveat: Great firms in tx, outside you will be marginalized forever.
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