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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
Not the above hater and haven't posted in this thread yet.
I work with someone who left DPW's M&A group as a second year. This person doesn't have very good things to say about it and sounds like it was def. a cultural deal. Obviously it's anecdotal, and I've never worked there, but there you go.
Also, why would you want to do public company M&A? Unless it's WLRK (who doesn't do their own diligence in house), this is a bad idea. M&A may sound cool theoretically, but it's shit in practice. As a 2L, try and take some classes in tax or ERISA. You'll thank me later.
I work with someone who left DPW's M&A group as a second year. This person doesn't have very good things to say about it and sounds like it was def. a cultural deal. Obviously it's anecdotal, and I've never worked there, but there you go.
Also, why would you want to do public company M&A? Unless it's WLRK (who doesn't do their own diligence in house), this is a bad idea. M&A may sound cool theoretically, but it's shit in practice. As a 2L, try and take some classes in tax or ERISA. You'll thank me later.
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
this is bullshit. Type of work a Wachtell junior does is leaps and bounds better than other V10s. Unlike most of this thread, this is actually an important thing for 2Ls to know (if they have a wachtell offer, that is...)Anonymous User wrote:
No. Arguably Wachtell is #1 if you consider pay. Other than that, no meaningful distinction for the "best" associate experience in the v10. Edit: and that's the same for cap markets and credit among the firms that actually have those practice groups.
The most meaningful distinction for associates will be where you fit in best, and that is completely subjective.
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
i'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that if wachtell was on the table for OP the decision would not come down to davis polk v STB right now, so I hardly see how this is "actually an important thing" in the context of this threadAnonymous User wrote:this is bullshit. Type of work a Wachtell junior does is leaps and bounds better than other V10s. Unlike most of this thread, this is actually an important thing for 2Ls to know (if they have a wachtell offer, that is...)Anonymous User wrote:
No. Arguably Wachtell is #1 if you consider pay. Other than that, no meaningful distinction for the "best" associate experience in the v10. Edit: and that's the same for cap markets and credit among the firms that actually have those practice groups.
The most meaningful distinction for associates will be where you fit in best, and that is completely subjective.
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
What you do for M&A at Wachtell, you do at Cravath, S&C, etc. You just do more of it at Wachtell.Anonymous User wrote:this is bullshit. Type of work a Wachtell junior does is leaps and bounds better than other V10s. Unlike most of this thread, this is actually an important thing for 2Ls to know (if they have a wachtell offer, that is...)Anonymous User wrote:
No. Arguably Wachtell is #1 if you consider pay. Other than that, no meaningful distinction for the "best" associate experience in the v10. Edit: and that's the same for cap markets and credit among the firms that actually have those practice groups.
The most meaningful distinction for associates will be where you fit in best, and that is completely subjective.
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
At wachtell you're running deals as a summer associate.Anonymous User wrote:What you do for M&A at Wachtell, you do at Cravath, S&C, etc. You just do more of it at Wachtell.Anonymous User wrote:this is bullshit. Type of work a Wachtell junior does is leaps and bounds better than other V10s. Unlike most of this thread, this is actually an important thing for 2Ls to know (if they have a wachtell offer, that is...)Anonymous User wrote:
No. Arguably Wachtell is #1 if you consider pay. Other than that, no meaningful distinction for the "best" associate experience in the v10. Edit: and that's the same for cap markets and credit among the firms that actually have those practice groups.
The most meaningful distinction for associates will be where you fit in best, and that is completely subjective.
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
I think you mean running mega deals during 2L right after you accept their SA offer.zweitbester wrote:At wachtell you're running deals as a summer associate.Anonymous User wrote:What you do for M&A at Wachtell, you do at Cravath, S&C, etc. You just do more of it at Wachtell.Anonymous User wrote:this is bullshit. Type of work a Wachtell junior does is leaps and bounds better than other V10s. Unlike most of this thread, this is actually an important thing for 2Ls to know (if they have a wachtell offer, that is...)Anonymous User wrote:
No. Arguably Wachtell is #1 if you consider pay. Other than that, no meaningful distinction for the "best" associate experience in the v10. Edit: and that's the same for cap markets and credit among the firms that actually have those practice groups.
The most meaningful distinction for associates will be where you fit in best, and that is completely subjective.
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
How long at STB until one gets their own office?Anonymous User wrote:And at DPW, shared offices are laid out such that one person is sitting directly behind the other, and has full view of the front person's computer screen. I don't know about you, but that sounds awful to me.Also DPW has prettier offices by a long shot
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
One year.Anonymous User wrote:How long at STB until one gets their own office?Anonymous User wrote:And at DPW, shared offices are laid out such that one person is sitting directly behind the other, and has full view of the front person's computer screen. I don't know about you, but that sounds awful to me.Also DPW has prettier offices by a long shot
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
What about at the other V10's? DPw, S&C?Anonymous User wrote:One year.Anonymous User wrote:How long at STB until one gets their own office?Anonymous User wrote:And at DPW, shared offices are laid out such that one person is sitting directly behind the other, and has full view of the front person's computer screen. I don't know about you, but that sounds awful to me.Also DPW has prettier offices by a long shot
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
That's only even possibly true for M&A. Wachtell is not better than other V10s for capital markets or credit or whatever else; in fact, it's below many of them.Anonymous User wrote:this is bullshit. Type of work a Wachtell junior does is leaps and bounds better than other V10s. Unlike most of this thread, this is actually an important thing for 2Ls to know (if they have a wachtell offer, that is...)Anonymous User wrote:
No. Arguably Wachtell is #1 if you consider pay. Other than that, no meaningful distinction for the "best" associate experience in the v10. Edit: and that's the same for cap markets and credit among the firms that actually have those practice groups.
The most meaningful distinction for associates will be where you fit in best, and that is completely subjective.
Also, this is just egregious anon abuse.
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
Not sure about Cravath, but S&C seems to give you offices after your first year, Davis Polk after second, STB after first, Skadden during first, and Cleary after first. Dunno about Paul Weiss and Debevoise.Anonymous User wrote: What about at the other V10's? DPw, S&C?
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
Pretty sure it's longer than a year for getting your own office at DPW
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
It's generally after your second year.zweitbester wrote:Pretty sure it's longer than a year for getting your own office at DPW
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
What is the size of clerkship bonuses for STB and DPW?
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Re: Simpson Thacher vs. Davis Polk
My understanding is $50k standardAnonymous User wrote:What is the size of clerkship bonuses for STB and DPW?
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