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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:08 pm

Has anyone heard back since their interview? Anyone received an offer or asked permission to contact their references?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:15 pm

No yet--I don't expect to hear anything until the interview window closes on the 15th.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 05, 2016 12:30 pm

They said they would be contacting people the end of January

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:12 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I got an invite to interview on Dec 16. Email said that PTO would be hosting interviews between Tuesday, December 1, 2015 - Friday, January 15, 2016 from 9 am to 4 pm. Told me to expect to be there for around 3 hours.


How was your interview? Did they mention the May class :?:
When do you expect to hear back?


There will be two classes of 20 (late February and May). The should be contacting the applicants by the end of this month.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:26 am

Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard back since their interview? Anyone received an offer or asked permission to contact their references?


Did the interviews really take 3 hours? If so, was that time split among different group leads? Did each group ask the same questions?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 09, 2016 2:32 pm

I spent about an hour with the first group and maybe 20 minutes with the second group.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:18 am

Anonymous User wrote:I spent about an hour with the first group and maybe 20 minutes with the second group.


Ok, thanks. Were the questions asked about the same with both groups?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:25 pm

I interviewed mid-December. I was told 3 hours, but was with the first panel about an hour and the second about 40 minutes. The first panel was the informative panel, with some questions. The second panel was all questions. The first panel told me that the second asked questions designed to elicit similar answers as those given to the first panel, but I didn't find that to be the case at all.

The wait is killer.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:07 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard back since their interview? Anyone received an offer or asked permission to contact their references?


Did the interviews really take 3 hours? If so, was that time split among different group leads? Did each group ask the same questions?


They will know the hirees by the end of January. I interviewed in January, and I was told they wouldn't even start talking until after the interviews have been completed (which is Friday).

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard back since their interview? Anyone received an offer or asked permission to contact their references?


Did the interviews really take 3 hours? If so, was that time split among different group leads? Did each group ask the same questions?


They will know the hirees by the end of January. I interviewed in January, and I was told they wouldn't even start talking until after the interviews have been completed (which is Friday).


(Hit Submit too soon)

The first group took about 25 minutes, and the second group was about 40 minutes. The questions were all different, but it is because each team leader wants to know different qualities. My interview was shorter than most because I have already been through this before so the basics and job descriptions were truncated.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby lockhark » Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:10 am

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Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Has anyone heard back since their interview? Anyone received an offer or asked permission to contact their references?


Did the interviews really take 3 hours? If so, was that time split among different group leads? Did each group ask the same questions?


They will know the hirees by the end of January. I interviewed in January, and I was told they wouldn't even start talking until after the interviews have been completed (which is Friday).


^^ Will they know the hirees by the end of January? Does this mean there won't be a second round of interviews (they'll just call your references and get straight to it?) I believe I read something on another thread that they conducted a second round of interviews, but that may not be the case this time.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:11 pm

There is no second round of interviews this time. One shot, two sets of people on the same day. They said they would be in touch the end of January.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:41 pm

This wait is ridiculous!

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby bellarms » Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:53 pm

Anonymous User wrote:This wait is ridiculous!


I know! I'm currently unemployed, so I've had nothing to keep my mind off it. My interview was in mid-December, and I can't stop worrying that I have no chance because it's been so long. I feel like those who interviewed after the holidays probably have a better shot.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:50 am

bellarms wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:This wait is ridiculous!


I know! I'm currently unemployed, so I've had nothing to keep my mind off it. My interview was in mid-December, and I can't stop worrying that I have no chance because it's been so long. I feel like those who interviewed after the holidays probably have a better shot.


Honestly, I don't think it matters when you interviewed. It seems like it's random. If a manager liked you, you're in his/her team. I've known beginning and ending interviewees who have secured positions. We will know soon.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:11 pm

I understand that the PTO will ask you before contacting your references, and that they only take this step if planning to make you an offer. Has anyone been contacted about their references?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:23 pm

I wouldn't expect to hear anything until the end of this week at the very earliest. They just finished interviews on Friday. More likely, calls will come sometime next week.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:32 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I wouldn't expect to hear anything until the end of this week at the very earliest. They just finished interviews on Friday. More likely, calls will come sometime next week.


I also think next week.

The last class had a shorter interview window, 8/24 to 9/11 (or 9/15), and the phone call to check references was on 9/23--a week after the interview window closed.

Good luck everyone :!:

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:39 pm

the wait.................

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby HarveyBirdlaw » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:04 pm

Yes sir/ma'am... it is brutal. Now that everybody has interviewed, I think we can be a little more open about our interviews just to get it off our chest while we wait.

I don't know how it was for you guys, but it the interview to me was surprisingly devoid of any trademark related questions. I had brushed up on all the work I did in lawschool, but it was really just a convo about how the job worked, and why I wanted to work there.

Was this similar for anyone else, or did you get quizzed on trademark law?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:06 pm

Anonymous User wrote:the wait.................


I'm still expecting to hear something next week.

Looking through the forum, it can come on any day.
Page 1, Offers went out 2/20/2014 (Thursday)
Page 5, Offers went out 2/6/2015 (Friday)
Page 11, Offers went out 9/23/2015 (Wednesday)

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby nyulaw » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:38 pm

HarveyBirdlaw wrote:Yes sir/ma'am... it is brutal. Now that everybody has interviewed, I think we can be a little more open about our interviews just to get it off our chest while we wait.

I don't know how it was for you guys, but it the interview to me was surprisingly devoid of any trademark related questions. I had brushed up on all the work I did in lawschool, but it was really just a convo about how the job worked, and why I wanted to work there.

Was this similar for anyone else, or did you get quizzed on trademark law?


They are not interested in your knowledge of trademark law as much as your ability to do the job. The training they do assumes you have no trademark knowledge at all. They would prefer candidates who demonstrate an ability to maintain a high rate of accuracy, keep up with the production requirements, and be OK with having their work red lined on a regular basis. I think their view is, the law can be taught, work skills cannot.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:48 pm

Agreed. My interview was the same. In fact, someone told me that there were a lot of people who had interviewed (partners at firms, IP professionals, you name it) and that it didn't matter to them. For purposes of hiring the best candidates, they assumed you have 0 knowledge about trademark law. They were primarily concerned about how quickly you could work and whether or not you could meet their production goals. It really wasn't a great way to sell the job, in my opinion, but I think they wanted to get straight to the point and not sugarcoat it.

I think more importantly, the secret sauce is that you communicate to them that you are planning on being there for the long run. Knowledge isn't important, and many people can meet their production standards, but ultimately, they want someone to invest in. They don't want to waste 5 weeks of training on someone who will plan on leaving to a firm in the next year or so.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:30 pm

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I think more importantly, the secret sauce is that you communicate to them that you are planning on being there for the long run. Knowledge isn't important, and many people can meet their production standards, but ultimately, they want someone to invest in. They don't want to waste 5 weeks of training on someone who will plan on leaving to a firm in the next year or so.


Bingo.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:17 pm

For those outside the DC area, we expect a MAJOR snowstorm beginning Friday mid-afternoon. The metro transit system has already said they will shut down at Friday, 11pm, for the entire weekend. Federal offices will likely close Friday. I just pass this info along as this could delay calls about references.




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