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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:02 am

Congrats! Did you apply for the attorney or law clerk position?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:11 am

No my status hasn’t changed. I wish they would let us know! :oops:

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:27 am

I'm the one that was contacted yesterday.

I applied for the law clerk position.

Also, my status on USAJobs is unchanged, so I wouldn't worry about that!

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:29 am

Anonymous User wrote:For those of us still waiting, has anyone’s status changed on USAjobs.gov (ie to signify that they have not been selected for the oct OR jan classes)?



Nope, still referred.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:50 am

I think the USPTO does not update their alerts on USAJOBs. The only place to get a status update is this page and maybe HR. Once mid-October passes, time to officially move on.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:51 pm

I believe that January calls are starting to go out.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:51 pm

Why do you think that?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby EsqE » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:08 pm

Yep! I received a call earlier today to check references for the January class.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:29 pm

Hi all! Joined TLS a few minutes ago just to participate in this thread :D .

Received a phone call today at ~4:20pm for a reference check.

Applied as a law clerk, but have since been admitted and wasn't asked about my status.

She mentioned that they will be finalizing the October class details before extending offers to the January class.

Hope this helps!

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:36 am

Is Melissa McGrath the person to call for an update?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:31 am

I received a call to check references for a January start date.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:47 am

Anonymous User wrote:I received a call to check references for a January start date.


Did your interview take place at the beginning or end of the interview period (August or September)?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:08 pm

It’s shocking that I haven’t received a call. I absolutely nailed the interview.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:32 pm

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Anonymous User wrote:I received a call to check references for a January start date.


Did your interview take place at the beginning or end of the interview period (August or September)?


Interviewed 8/13.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:23 pm

Anonymous User wrote:It’s shocking that I haven’t received a call. I absolutely nailed the interview.


It appears to me more about personality than having the right answers.

I bombed the interview, but one of my answers made everyone in the room laugh. Got a call.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:32 pm

Very disheartening. I wonder if all the offers have gone out now. Has anyone called HR? Anyone know who to call?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:13 am

I called Melissa McGrath in the Commissioner’s office last week, and she said offers would be going out until mid October.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:29 am

I have a few questions left over from my interview that I find I don't have the answers to, and I wonder if any of you do. It is not about getting the job of attorney advisor, but rather, some of the conditions of actually working the job. So in no particular order:
1. How many TM applications is an attorney advisor expected to handle per day? 8 sticks in my mind, but is this at the GS 11 level? What about at the GS-12 level? GS-13? GS-14?
2. Assuming one is doing what is expected, can one expect promotion from GS-11 to 12 to 13 to 14 at one year intervals - a three year path - or would that be unusual? How long does it typically take to rise to a 14 from an 11?
3. What are the opportunities for paid overtime as a 12, a 13, a 14, and how much is that typically worth?
4. Does the PTO grant any bonuses for excellence? What are they worth, and at what point does an Attorney Advisor qualify for them?
5. These positions begin at GS-11, step 1, which is around I think 68K before taxes. That's not much money for the DC area, especially after taxes. How difficult is it to live on that in the DC area near the USPTO?

Thank you for your input.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I have a few questions left over from my interview that I find I don't have the answers to, and I wonder if any of you do. It is not about getting the job of attorney advisor, but rather, some of the conditions of actually working the job. So in no particular order:
1. How many TM applications is an attorney advisor expected to handle per day? 8 sticks in my mind, but is this at the GS 11 level? What about at the GS-12 level? GS-13? GS-14?
2. Assuming one is doing what is expected, can one expect promotion from GS-11 to 12 to 13 to 14 at one year intervals - a three year path - or would that be unusual? How long does it typically take to rise to a 14 from an 11?
3. What are the opportunities for paid overtime as a 12, a 13, a 14, and how much is that typically worth?
4. Does the PTO grant any bonuses for excellence? What are they worth, and at what point does an Attorney Advisor qualify for them?
5. These positions begin at GS-11, step 1, which is around I think 68K before taxes. That's not much money for the DC area, especially after taxes. How difficult is it to live on that in the DC area near the USPTO?

Thank you for your input.


1.) 8 per day initially, but they don't expect you to hit that when first starting out.

2.) Yes, yearly promotions from 11 to 12 to 13 to 14.

3.) Depends how much overtime you work. Alternatively, OT worked can be used as compensatory time. You can work overtime when your supervisor thinks you are competent enough.

4.) Yes. Up to $20,000 per year. I think you'll be eligible after three quarters, but it's unlikely you'll get a bonus after that quarter, due to the fact that you won't be producing quickly when you start out.

5.) Unless you are ridiculously irresponsible with money, GS-11 is more than enough for the DC area.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:19 pm

I was contacted today for a reference check, January class, attorney position.

Was told to expect a formal offer from HR in one or two weeks’ time as HR will have their hands full getting things situated for the October class over the course of the next couple of weeks.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:51 pm

Any other updates?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:07 pm

Curious about this job. Know it's super competitive. Are the exit opportunities good for those that leave?

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby dokhada » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Curious about this job. Know it's super competitive. Are the exit opportunities good for those that leave?


I asked partners at a NYC biglaw firm and a New England midlaw firm, and they all said the PTO was valuable experience in a candidate for a trademark law associate position.

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:45 pm

Very few choose to leave due to the benefits. However exit options are great after 2 years. After 4-5 years they tend to disappear

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Re: Attorney Advisor (Trademark Examining Attorney) for USPTO

Postby Anonymous User » Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:05 pm

Just contacted Mellissa Mcgrath and asked for an update. She said the hiring process is still ongoing. I asked if she knew when selections would be done and she said "nppe." From what I saw other people post, others were given more specific info like " calling applicants for the remainder of this week and next" sooo I am kind of thinking that they are pretty much done but just aren't saying that they are in case references don't pan out and they need to add more ppl. Disappointed to say the least.



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